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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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TurtleSnatcher
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Pshh you never play with me anymore.. Totally never gaming with you in SC2 again!aznpxdd said:
EDIT: We also did 2v2's early.. when all the hardcore got on instantly and wanted to do placement right after patch.
So our placement was probably hardcore platinum guys while your placement right now is probably like a good mix of terrble players and good players.
HDStarcraft shows us the "shift queue" blink move. Basically, it's a way to easily get a large group of stalkers across any chasm very quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDemA_6xsw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDemA_6xsw
Okay so basically.
Never stop making workers, there's no such thing as a worker surplus! If you have too many workers, expand.
Less teching early game, more making a defensive army.
Don't go for high yield unless you know you can defend it.
Always scout around your base to make sure you don't get proxied.
Never stop making workers, there's no such thing as a worker surplus! If you have too many workers, expand.
Less teching early game, more making a defensive army.
Don't go for high yield unless you know you can defend it.
Always scout around your base to make sure you don't get proxied.
Interesting, I love stalkers so this will be useful.
i dunno, i think it's situational. there's no point expanding if you're unable to defend it or you're betting on the chance that it's not found for a long time. otherwise you're just wasting resources that could be better spent on upgrading or producing a larger army.Halycon said:
surplus workers aren't a huge problem for terran or zerg. it's always good to have a few spare SCVs or drones to produce new buildings without having to pull any off resource gathering. but it's very wasteful for a protoss to have surplus workers.
Since nexus takes a long time to get up i think surplus workers is helpful to immediately start getting the income from your expac once the nexus finishes but I haven't had enough chances to try it outScrow said:
I wish I could easily see my unit count. Toss is way too different from zerg.
Here is a replay of mine.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YQQ09S1C
Anyone wants to give pointers of what Im doing bad/good?
Cheers!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YQQ09S1C
Anyone wants to give pointers of what Im doing bad/good?
Cheers!
well... you won, so there's not much to say except GGfanboi said:
you're probably a better player than i am, so i feel silly giving advice.... but i reckon you really needed to throw some roaches onto the front line to soak up the damage. zerglings melt away too quickly if you don't have them in large enough numbers and hydras are too soft to sustain the incoming damage from marines and tanks. hydras can wreak a lot of havoc if they have a meat shield protecting them.
Zzoram said:
General tips:
-Expand early, all Terran units are vulnerable to lings early in the game before they get a large clump with stim or upgraded hellions.
-If the Terran gets a well defended expansion up don't panic and attack him, instead simply take more expansions than he has so you are consistently able to out produce and counter him.
-Avoid army compositions that include more than a handful of roaches, almost all Terran units are good against roaches.
-Use static defense, crawlers are now possibly the best static defense in the game that deal a huge amount of damage and come rather cheap, don't be afraid of chucking down 5-6 crawlers at various points on the map to secure your economic advantage. And if you believe even for one second that he is banshee rushing then a spore crawler at every base is needed.
-Upgrades! Usually this match will continue on to more than just 1 base vs 1 base and in this scenario it never hurts to have a few upgrades, lings attack so fast and do so little damage per hit that a single upgrade can make an incredible difference to their battle capabilities.
ZvT is a lot like night elf vs human in wc3, you need to have more bases and more tech and you cannot really push them - But it's balanced because you CAN have more bases and more tech, that is the strength of your race.
Paz said:
I find banshee into MMM Terrans are super hard to counter. The problem is it's hard to scout Terran, so you almost have to assume Banshee, but if you do, you'll tech up to Hydra too quickly and not have a sufficient army to hande MMM.
Spores are useless vs more than 1 Banshee, and you need several to cover each base due to all the angles a Banshee can attack from.
Zzoram said:
Try leaving an overlord or 2 near the terran base, and when you have secured your economic advantage with the early expansion send one of them into the back of his base.
The information costs 100 minerals but it can be game changing.
As for the spore crawler complaint, it is one of the most powerful static AA's in the game and can move to cover more angles if you need to build more of them. However your point stands and banshees will be able to take it down - The use of the single spore crawler at each base is more of a deterrent for the super early 1-2 banshee rush that is currently popular, it also allows you to see cloaked banshees which if you do not have a detector can be instant gg.
The idea is the spore crawler buys you time, 1-2 minutes in which you should be able to easily tech a hard counter (hydra or muta, or even more spore crawlers if you are a long way off your tech). Try not to think of static defense as a counter as it is more of an assistant, the crawlers can deter small numbers of hellions or banshees but are not a hard counter to a 50 population army.
And when in doubt expand again!
Scrow said:well... you won, so there's not much to say except GG
you're probably a better player than i am, so i feel silly giving advice.... but i reckon you really needed to throw some roaches onto the front line to soak up the damage. zerglings melt away too quickly if you don't have them in large enough numbers and hydras are too soft to sustain the incoming damage from marines and tanks. hydras can wreak a lot of havoc if they have a meat shield protecting them.
hmm.. why I dont go roaches is due to that I want to have hydras fast...
Will try it though.
BlueScrote
Member
That stalker blink video is pretty cool. I haven't really used blink too much, although it apppears to be pretty damn powerful as you can blink anywhere you have vision.
chris-013 said:
Chris - whats your tag ingame after the wipe?
As for fast maruders aganist zerg - unless they went roaches I never see that work. Aganist zerglings, just get helions to kite them away from the MM push, get the MM into the base with the marines in back in case the 'lings retreat back to the base. If you upgraded the Hellions (doubtful - but it happens) and and the zerg player took the bait of ganking the 3 hellions it works very very well.
darkpaladinmfc
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Either double-click the building or Ctrl click it.Halycon said:
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Hope you don't abandon terran. Honestly you may not have the best rush with them now but you still can hold your own early game. Likewise you have the best end game I've seen with a terran player yet.aznpxdd said:
TurtleSnatcher
Member
lolMilabrega said:
Yet we both admitted were partner whores.
I've partnered with Haz, Vautrin, and Panda.
Not with Mil. God who would partner with Mil?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Scrow said:
Pick off harvesters you've missed from a nuke if you're going for a base attack after the bomb hits. I personally don't really expect my ghost to survive after most nuke attacks, so you might as well up those 8 shots.