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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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Rez said:
They are a defensive unit, but not really base defense(although early game forcefield is useful to block your ramp, if you are relying on only sentries to defend your base you will lose). They defend your army. All three of their spells can greatly reduce the amount of incoming damage on your army, giving your units time to kill some of the opponent's army to give you the numbers advantage in that battle.
Good use of sentry abilities is key for winning ground battles as protoss, as protoss units don't do the kind of ranged damage terran units do, and are much more expensive than zerg units, so you will almost always be at a disadvantage in terms of the sheer numbers. With sentries though, you can basically take any melee or short range units out of the fight completely, and significantly reduce the incoming damage from light ranged units like marines and mutalisks. If you use hallucinate you can create fake units to absorb certain special abilities like neural parasite or feedback, in addition to just taking damage in the place of real units. That one is harder to pull off effectively though.
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this explains so much about why I have trouble against competent early game zerg.
Hazaro said:
Depends on what kind of army you are facing.
Against lings and roaches and zealot heavy protoss armys, sure it works wonders. It doesn't really help much with terran MMM balls or hydras or stalkers(especially with blink), aside from possibly preventing a weaker force from being able to retreat, or holding them up long enough for you to storm them or something. Against those armies you need immortals and stalkers, so you gotta be careful to not spend too much gas on sentries.
You never really need more than about a dozen sentries, no matter what your army size is, that amount will give you plenty of energy to use however you want.
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ChronicleX
Banned
OMG The League system is so shite. It just promoted me to Gold League Status, I was in Bronze 2 days ago :lol
I am seriously shite yet I got up up and up.... If I hit the plat league I am gonna file a bug report.
I am seriously shite yet I got up up and up.... If I hit the plat league I am gonna file a bug report.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
g23 said:
An hour.
I've played too many Tower Defense games on my iPod alone to be fascinated by them anymore. Count me out.
On the other hand I will be looking forward to any 3rd person shooter maps people make for Starcraft II. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if one of those weren't an official mission in the campaign for Nova.
Most of all, I'm just looking for some damn good Melee maps made by people like me and MisterAnderson. Always could use more maps to do battle on.
On the other hand I will be looking forward to any 3rd person shooter maps people make for Starcraft II. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if one of those weren't an official mission in the campaign for Nova.
Most of all, I'm just looking for some damn good Melee maps made by people like me and MisterAnderson. Always could use more maps to do battle on.
Shield is always helpful. Always. Alwaysssssssss. esp since it cuts Marine damage but a large % and makes stalkers die in 1 less hit (not that mards don't overkill them like mad anyway)iamblades said:
So is forcefield. Sure it won't be as effective vs ranged units but you can still split armies and put 2/3 range of forcefield between you.
Gas invested in sentries is gas you keep. You really want to protect your sentries just as a Terran should protect his tanks.
Overspending gas is something you should be wary of, but your sentry numbers should slowly build up over time.
You need to update each patch so you can view older replay files and whatnot. Expect a series of 8 small patches, a 500MB editor patch, and another 3 small patches.g23 said:
mescalineeyes
Banned
uh so I added the game to my collection on battle.net but when I try to log into battle.net via starcraft 2 it tells me I don't have the game.
alllright.
alllright.
Everyone support this:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24915042918&postId=249127310253&sid=5010#0
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24915042918&postId=249127310253&sid=5010#0
I need to practice my sentry micro. They always end up separated from the group just enough so that their shield is just missing my zealots, and then I lose precious time trying to move them in range.
And a question on force field. Watching Orb do it, he puts down such smooth lines of fields. is there a trick to getting them layed out like that or you just have to be quick on the button spam?
And a question on force field. Watching Orb do it, he puts down such smooth lines of fields. is there a trick to getting them layed out like that or you just have to be quick on the button spam?
When it was changed so that Thors were built from the Factory and not on the field as originally demoed? Or is that just not in the beta at the moment?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMwj3NW_L4&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMwj3NW_L4&feature=fvw
Just occurred to me that when sc2 ships 90% of the new players, having played the SP are going to go Terran 
and ill be fucked if every game is an hour long tvt macro fest.
Time to learn a new class
and ill be fucked if every game is an hour long tvt macro fest.Time to learn a new class
I'm now officially in love with the Thor.
I used to get easily owned by mutas after my enemy discovered I was going for MMM, but now I just build 3-4 Thors and those mutas become worthless. Then I just need to clean up his base because he will have just some minor ground forces.
I used to get easily owned by mutas after my enemy discovered I was going for MMM, but now I just build 3-4 Thors and those mutas become worthless. Then I just need to clean up his base because he will have just some minor ground forces.
Kinyou said:I'm now officially in love with the Thor.
I used to get easily owned by mutas after my enemy discovered I was going for MMM, but now I just build 3-4 Thors and those mutas become worthless. Then I just need to clean up his base because he will have just some minor ground forces.
Are muta's really a good of a counter to MMM? It seems like if I ever try to muta attack an MMM they just get demolished by the billions of marines the terran player has.
The counter I've been using that works semi well is mass hydra's with some infesters. It works wonders because most every MMM ball is sprinkled with siege tanks or thors, so I neural parasite them, fungal growth the ball, let my hydras dps and profit (well.. sometimes profit).
I also don't really like going muta's because if the opponent has any kind of air force, then it's GG for me, because they fail to almost any other flying unit. I usually only make like 5-6 muta's and use them to harass the opponents mineral line.
Because blizzards fans argued that it looked too vibrant to be in starcraft universe and looked like something out of WC3 and toys, thus the change.msv said:Argh, I hate seeing that old footage. It's all so colorful and clear to see
watervengeance
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Terran mech is so strong.
The Lamonster
Member
I don't like the colors but I wish the Battlecruisers still had that crazy lazer spell.msv said:Argh, I hate seeing that old footage. It's all so colorful and clear to see
ChronicleX
Banned
The Lamonster said:
And I wish the Protoss still had a Mothership worth using :lol
Rez said:
Sentries are in the running for one of the most awesome new units in the game. The shield ability helps out a lot for MMM balls and Mutalisks. Force Field is fucking DEADLY when you have 4+ sentries. Properly microed a set of force fields can cut off a significant part of your opponent's forces from the battle.
Beta will be temporarily closing on May 31.
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24914963054&sid=5010
Looks like they'll bringing it back some time in July to do a stress test.
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24914963054&sid=5010
Looks like they'll bringing it back some time in July to do a stress test.
watervengeance
Member
GOD DAMN IT BATTLE.NET. WHY COULDN'T YOU DELAY THE DOWNTIME BY A MINUTE. I WAS LITERALLY 3 SECONDS AWAY FROM WINNING. HIS SPAWNING POOL WAS ONE ZEALOT PUNCH AWAY FROM DYING.
The Lamonster
Member
Damn, that sucks. I was hoping to play it through June.ZealousD said:
Looks like me and Warcraft III will be getting pretty cozy in June.
Decided to remove my vote against Incineration Zone and got to play 2 games on it......I just don't understand what Blizz was thinking there.....
It's as real as roaches are 2 supply!
Aesthet1c said:I can't access battle.net at work, but I hope that's a joke post
I was thinkin we had until mid-late June to play
It's as real as roaches are 2 supply!
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Damn....I guess Ill be fine since Im on vacation for a month during June/July but still!
The Lamonster
Member
So I guess we're not getting 3v3, 4v4 or a custom map browser in the beta?
I still cant beat it playing as Zerg. Broodlords are not available yet, and everything else just melts to the firepower. Only thing Ive found to beat it, is not let Terrans get a Mech army. Im looking for any suggestions from high level Zerg players on how they beat a Tech army mid game.watervengeance said:Terran mech is so strong.
prodystopian
Member
ZealousD said:
WTF. I get the beta for two weeks? *shakes fist*
Use smart casting.joelseph said:
Basically you just select your sentries, hit the ff hotkey. Then hold shift and click where you want the fields, and boom you are done.
Its really easy once you get the hang of it. Smart casting can also be used with other spells like psi storm or yamato cannon.