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How come I'm losing a game whenever there's a 5 minute server shutdown warning lol. This of course sets up a hilarious "stay alive for 5min" game, which I always win :lol
Drones are 50 minerals. Hatcheries are 300 minerals. This does not make Hatcheries 350 minerals, please do not spread misinformation.-COOLIO- said:350 with the drone
-COOLIO- said:by the time the hatch was made, i had no units for attacking. i would of had to block it with an scv. and keeping an scv out every game for just that reason is kind of silly.
and hatches are 350 minerals
also, you can plant tumors off of creep?ChronicleX said:In short - Fail rush. It would of made more sense to make two queens, sending the first across the map to make creep tumors near the base to plant SpineCrawlers, with the hatch a little further away.
Snow said:I think it's this game? HD and Husky also did a commentary for it, but the first link has Day9 which is probably a bit better.
when commentators talking about hatch cost, they usually refer to the cost as 350 minerals.Jokey665 said:Drones are 50 minerals. Hatcheries are 300 minerals. This does not make Hatcheries 350 minerals, please do not spread misinformation.
You are mostly correct. You need a few sentries to use guardian shield to greatly reduce marine damage. You need a few forcefields to make things a bit easier for your zealots (with charge). You need the immortals to move foward to take the brunt of tank hits. You need a few zealots with charge to be damage sinks nad possibly try to target any tanks in the back. Then you need collosi or templar with storm to decimate the marines (imo storm is much much better for this) while making sure you have enough immortals + zealots to clean up the remaining tanks.Sarye said:I'm sure this is answered already but how does one fight off siege tanks? Like.. alot of them? I've heard strategies from getting phoenixes and lifting them... to getting zealots with charge. Usually the opponent's composition is MM + siege with vikings supporting.
The issue for me is that I usually go quick robo but when I scout a factory, it's almost too late to switch to stargate as the economy doesn't support both a robo and stargate.
I hate to change my strategy drastically anyway as it destroys my unit composition.
So what should I do? research charge and go heavy zealots + sentry + immortals?
I'm terrible at micro too so I guess that's a huge part of it.
a bunker might work.ChronicleX said:Not scouting at all was a bad idea, you did not have to stop the hatchery, just the drones becoming spinecrawlers at it which you would had plenty of time todo if you did not hide behind your wall.
If you had scouted you could of made a bunker right next to it before creep appeared, then sent units in to block it off completely. This is a strat that is as silly as Queen rushing, and works just as often.
grats and good jobthestopsign said:Just won my first Diamond league game (now 1-3). I basically won because of units placed at a Xelnaga tower, saw that he had a large force coming and immediately started creating units and spine crawlers to bolster my defense. Probably would have lost to that push if I hadn't seen it coming.
Cru Jones said:So I take it you were "that guy" at LAN parties
JWong said:Man, no word on when it's up too.
Does anyone know where to put custom maps? I'm trying to get a game of big game hunters working, but the client doesn't read it anywhere I put it.
-COOLIO- said:also, you can plant tumors off of creep?
i think because of the queens slow speed off of creep, making a hatch in the opponents natural is still better but i'll try both methods.
i wanna try this against some terrans to see how they counter it when the server goes back up
ChronicleX said:You cannot make tumors off creep, but you could start a hatch then cancel it to use the creep it generators to spawn a tumor I think. If that works you could then spawn tumors off that small creep patch, allowing you to use the 300 min on the spinecrawlers instead.
F#A#Oo said:EU down for anyone else?
UES! more defense game timeAshhong said:US is up and running
Jokey665 said:Drones are 50 minerals. Hatcheries are 300 minerals. This does not make Hatcheries 350 minerals, please do not spread misinformation.
ZealousD said:A better idea is to planet a creep tumor in the middle of overlord poop.
No, but you can use the Overlords to spawn creep and then put the creep tumor in there. But with a rush/cheese strategy like this it probably won't work because you need a Lair first.-COOLIO- said:also, you can plant tumors off of creep?
i think because of the queens slow speed off of creep, making a hatch in the opponents natural is still better but i'll try both methods.
i wanna try this against some terrans to see how they counter it when the server goes back up
Look at the tooltip for Hatchery and tell me how many minerals it costs. Also realize that the drone probably earned well over 50 minerals before you turned it into a hatch.JoeMartin said:Well considering that the drone is consumed in the creation of the hatch, yes, putting up a new hatch does in fact cost you 350 minerals. Please do not spread misinformation.
and you probably paid 50 minerals to replace it because it DIEDJokey665 said:Look at the tooltip for Hatchery and tell me how many minerals it costs. Also realize that the drone probably earned well over 50 minerals before you turned it into a hatch.
Lag in unbearable. Played a 2v2 and partner dropped so I cannon + reaper rushed and teched to banshees. Before I could one enemy dropped, then we exchanged lag every 3 seconds until the other guy left.
Opiate said:I'm experiencing a different issue. I can get in to BNet, and everything seems smooth when I'm just in the base interface. As soon as I join a game (I've tried 2v2 and FFA), everyone is lagging, with perhaps 5-10 FPS because it seems to rotate with me dropping, then another person, then another, until all of us are at ~30 seconds of good will til we are auto-disconnected. I gave up both times and left.
Yes, this is approximately what I'm getting. I'm not getting auto dropped by BNet before getting in to a game, I'm simply lagging ridiculously (along with all my team mates and opponents) so that gameplay is unbearable.
I scout it and Im ready for it, it is just makes for a very boring game when that is the majority of your games. You scout the early push, prepare, have a short fight with tier 1 units and wipe the floor with their army, and then make your push to win. It is normally over in less than 5 minutes and you dont even have a chance to get to more interesting units/techs/tiers etc. You get wins, but it is extremely boring. I would rather lose a fun game, than win a short all-in cheese game. I was close to moving up to Platinum before the patch and with the disconnects/cheese it is tough to log on play ladder games right now. Im sure I will get slaughtered in Diamond at first, but it will be fun to play against new strategies and good players. Insane AI program isnt great, but at least it mixes things up to counter you and you get to try things out, besides a cheese rush.Zzoram said:Learn to scout. If you scout a cheese early, it almost always guarantees you the win if you respond accordingly. That's why it's called an all-in, there is a huge risk associated with it, and if it doesn't work, they're almost certainly going to lose.
that is AWESOMEKinitari said:Wow, all the lag just granted me with a game breaking glitch, for this entire last game, my resources didn't seem to fluctuate, then I noticed I could make as many units as I wanted at no cost.
It was hard NOT to cheat that game, because I had no idea how many resources I actually had.
-COOLIO- said:that is AWESOME
i would mass ghosts
.Hazaro said:Lag in unbearable. Played a 2v2 and partner dropped so I cannon + reaper rushed and teched to banshees. Before I could one enemy dropped, then we exchanged lag every 3 seconds until the other guy left.
Kinitari said:Wow, all the lag just granted me with a game breaking glitch, for this entire last game, my resources didn't seem to fluctuate, then I noticed I could make as many units as I wanted at no cost.
It was hard NOT to cheat that game, because I had no idea how many resources I actually had.
I think I played that one, needless to say I got fucked up...Ice Monkey said:guys art of defense is very fun, for 6 players but i think you may need a good computer for it. Anyone wanna get a game going?
If I was to use Overload poop, make a spine crawler on the poop, and then my overlord gets killed... what happens to the spine crawler?ZealousD said:A better idea is to planet a creep tumor in the middle of overlord poop.
I'm playing it, but someone either lags or leaves.Ice Monkey said:guys art of defense is very fun, for 6 players but i think you may need a good computer for it. Anyone wanna get a game going?
DaFish said:If I was to use Overload poop, make a spine crawler on the poop, and then my overlord gets killed... what happens to the spine crawler?
DaFish said:If I was to use Overload poop, make a spine crawler on the poop, and then my overlord gets killed... what happens to the spine crawler?