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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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iamblades said:
I'll look more into trying to incorporate nydus into my game somehow. I often go with ling muta builds, sometimes i use banelings and hydras (not hydras against terran often). I'm always interested in viable options to make my game more adaptable as I try not to stick to formulaic builds if possible.
Maybe I can find a cute way to use them with lings.
You don't know of any replays with nydus being used? it doesn't have to be restricted to 1v1, just anything of reasonable level will do.
Opiate said:
Also you can't just look at unit balance. You have to consider real game situations.
Zerg definitely does have the weakest units, but IMO it is intended for them to have the weakest units, because they will have map control do to their speed, which means they will have more bases, and the way the larvae mechanic works, they can rebuild their entire army more or less instantly. Spawn larvae is probably the most broken OP thing in the game when considering 200/200 armies, but since that rarely happens in competitive games, it is more or less a balanced mechanic for 99% of situations.
Map balance also plays into it, as zerg have more of an advantage on wide open areas where they can get a big surround, which protoss and terran like to fight in chokes when possible.
ChronicleX said:
Regarding the EU tournament, will be announcment tomorrow since I haven't had the time.
And yeah you should take Miroi serio... oh wait you didn't finish you're game right? So cointoss.
*tosses coin*
Ah damn, you didn't make it, douche.
Grow the fuck up and stop insulting people and be less of an arrogant asshole and maybe you will be able to join the next EU gaf tournament.
Won said:
I've never seen him play before. It was mostly to get a rise out of him. He takes a word "noob" and just applies his own arbitrary definition to it. Noob is short for newbie, which is a word to describe anyone who is new to something (it doesn't matter if they are a whiner who makes excuses for themselves or if they are trying to learn the game mechanics and adapt accordingly).
Ignore the above if you were referring to him as the ninja from Mortal Kombat
ChronicleX
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fanboi said:
I am not insulting anyone, they are attempting to insult me and failing. If they find their failure insulting then they should stop attempting to insult me :lol
mescalineeyes
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ChronicleX said:
you still come off as a huge dick and should probably bail out now.
ChronicleX
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mescalineeyes said:
And everyone being asshats come off as heroes no? If you do not want to get burnt, do not stick your head in a fire.
I can't wait for retail release....I use to play SC1 but only single player...MP was something I always thought was out of reach for me as a player so I never once went online (yeah I was that lame, didn't even TRY) in however many years I owned a copy of the game and expansion.
When I got the beta key and a new computer I thought I would try playing MP as they seemed to have made it alot more user-friendly and accessible...(I don't know if this is true but it looks like it)
The past few months I've gone from being a one-handed player
to using the keyboard...:lol I'm now a gold player (top 10 in my division in 1v1)...even though placement matches put me in platinum...:lol If someone had told me in February I would have made such dramatic progress playing I would have said they were talking utter nonsense...
I'm sorry to those EU gaffers who I have added but never played but I lack serious confidence and thus could never muster the balls to join any of your sessions...
When I got the beta key and a new computer I thought I would try playing MP as they seemed to have made it alot more user-friendly and accessible...(I don't know if this is true but it looks like it)
The past few months I've gone from being a one-handed player
to using the keyboard...:lol I'm now a gold player (top 10 in my division in 1v1)...even though placement matches put me in platinum...:lol If someone had told me in February I would have made such dramatic progress playing I would have said they were talking utter nonsense...I'm sorry to those EU gaffers who I have added but never played but I lack serious confidence and thus could never muster the balls to join any of your sessions...
F#A#Oo said:I can't wait for retail release....I use to play SC1 but only single player...MP was something I always thought was out of reach for me as a player so I never once went online (yeah I was that lame, didn't even TRY) in however many years I owned a copy of the game and expansion.
When I got the beta key and a new computer I thought I would try playing MP as they seemed to have made it alot more user-friendly and accessible...(I don't know if this is true but it looks like it)
The past few months I've gone from being a one-handed player
I'm sorry to those EU gaffers who I have added but never played but I lack serious confidence and thus could never muster the balls to join any of your sessions...
Add me jhalvarsson@gmail.com
nilbog21 said:
Chat rooms likely, since well they do technically exist in the annoying form of conversations atm and Blizzard Reps have said they will be coming. The rest I won't be too certain of. They are intentionally creating a closed platform and with Activision at the helm we know what that means (pay content, pay for features). I'd even go so far as to say the restriction on custom game searches will result in some kind of pay map features getting preferential treatment on queue's and lists.
I agree with a lot of the TL points. Not joining games by game title limits the communities ability to interact with one another, and to come up with custom rule types beyond the standard fair (NR 10 min, All Random, etc). Invitation only private games is an annoyance as well.
Won said:
Putting him on ignore list doesnt work because it still shows when hes quoted :lol takes so much willpower to ignore after reading the idiotic posts
Milabrega said:
i think they are like Blizzard chat rooms only though. I want to be able to create any titled chat room...
zerglings.Jangocube said:So Archons, what exactly are they good for?
Never really messed with them until today, and they absolutely suck. Maybe I just don't see their purpose and used them wrong, but I don't know. Anyone know?
They look cool though
large damage soakers spawning in the cleanup of battle.
salvaging Dt's against a heavy detector opponent.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
they are great!....in sc1 :/Jangocube said:So Archons, what exactly are they good for?
Never really messed with them until today, and they absolutely suck. Maybe I just don't see their purpose and used them wrong, but I don't know. Anyone know?
They look cool though
ChronicleX
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Jangocube said:
They look nice...... :lol
watervengeance
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ChronicleX said:
A good player takes every game seriously, Custom or not.
Being ranked 6 in Diamond means nothing. I've seen and beaten lots of players in Diamond that suck ass.
Not saying you're good or bad, but don't go flaunting your rank as thought it was an accurate gauge of skill level. If anything, the amount of points you have and your W/L ratio is more accurate than your rank.
Here is a link to a Sen/TLO match on Scrap Station. They have been playing quite a few matches lately, so unsure if this is the one.surazal said:
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3695856/
ChronicleX
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watervengeance said:
You are pretty much just repeating everything I have already said with one exception.
watervengeance said:
Wrong. Being good at a game does not mean you take it seriously or have to take it seriously. Most of the time the problem is people who take it too seriously, like 90% of the assholes in this topic.
I play the game for fun, not to win. If I wanted to win I'd play Terran :lol
Just had a RvR and we both ended up being Z. I scouted him before he scouted me, I was able to get a 2nd hatchery up sooner and mass Zerglings Speed upgrade had just kicked in and melee upgrade was about 80% done when I finally pushed him before he could try to tech switch or get a bunch of static D. Mass speedlings ftw
Speed upgrade had just kicked in and melee upgrade was about 80% done when I finally pushed him before he could try to tech switch or get a bunch of static D. Mass speedlings ftw Very lucky he did not have banelings :lolrhfb said:Just had a RvR and we both ended up being Z. I scouted him before he scouted me, I was able to get a 2nd hatchery up sooner and mass Zerglings
Get some burrowed banelings and stick them on your ramp, and stick pairs of them around the map. Lure marines onto them.Adent said:
Also just don't engage marines, go pick off SCV's on a gas, or supply depots.
You can use all that time to scout, and more importantly spam drones to get a giant econ advantage.
Corran Horn
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lol Accidentally played as Zerg on a 4v4. Felt so weird.
I'm not ZvZ expert but I think the time it takes to get a 2nd hatch up + 2 queens + an evo chamber + 80% done with melee upgrade is more than enough time for banelings.rhfb said:
Does anyone block their choke with 2/3 roaches + queen and fast tech to baneling muta?
Corran Horn
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Except I didn't have nearly enough drones and my spawn larva timing is a bit...off :lolDaFish said:
I just had an interesting (and annoying strategy) used against me. It was a PvP match on a 2 person map, he rushed me early on and warped in two Assimilators on top of both of my gas areas. I didn't have anything up at the time, so they fully warped in and it set me back quite a bit as far as getting my base going.
Has anyone had this used against them or employed it yourself?
Has anyone had this used against them or employed it yourself?
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I had a dude bring a drone in once, but I managed to scare it off before it finished mutating into an Extractor.
I never know what to do in the early Protoss game to fend off an OL flying over my base. The logical step is to create Stalkers or Cannons, but sometimes they get to my base before I've created a CC or forge.
I never know what to do in the early Protoss game to fend off an OL flying over my base. The logical step is to create Stalkers or Cannons, but sometimes they get to my base before I've created a CC or forge.
Double gas steals are usually quite risky to do. effectively he's trying to cut off your tech, but in doing so he's also denying his own tech, since he's spent all that mineral on the assimilators at your base and not his own. So you're basically both stuck with zealots for a short while, except you have more minerals in the bank. The other scenario is that he has gone for gas (building 3 assimilators, 2 at your base and 1 at his), so you'll temporarily have more zealots than he does, which gives you the opportunity to put on some pressure. Scout his shit with a probe and figure out if you got a window to rush, or if its better to block your ramp and take down the assimilators with your units. If I see him mining gas already, I would only hold back for a bit in order to do some sort of timing push very soon. Do not wait too long, as you'll end up getting raped by dancing stalkers.BigAT said:
The other thing you can do is just to throw down your first assimilator as soon as you can when you see that they've stolen your first geyser. there arn't a hell of a lot of builds which require super early 2 gas so you should be okay.
The other, other thing is that your opponent could cancel the assimilator while its still warping in, and spawning it again with their probe, and continuously doing it until their probe is dead, finally closing the harrass with a cancel. This saves them a good deal of minerals as they keep raking back the cash after the cancel, and still delays your gas for a good period of time. To deal with this make sure that you do get one gas, and try to kill their probe as soon as you realistically can.
Adent said:
I love it because I know that the game is more or less balanced, and if you lose it is your own fault and your own fault alone - there is very little left to chance. Games like hon make me rage because most other people are fucking stupid, and when I lose because of other people's ineptitude or a chance series of events, I get angry.
I attempted a meager zealot rush, but he had blocked off the sole ramp into his base with three (later five) photo cannons by the time I got there. I likely made a mistake by destroying both assimilators before making my move. He quickly went double stargates and hit me with void rays before I had the chance to counter.spoon! said:
I suppose I probably should have quickly built an assimilator after seeing him build the first one, but I was completely unprepared for this strategy.
Playing a RTS against other human players is for always quite exhausting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Every time I start up a ranked match my heart starts pumping like crazy and to the end of the game I actually start to sweat... It doesn't matter how often I try to calm myself, as soon as I see the loading my pulse goes sky-high.
It's not just the gameplay of a RTS, which requires you to take care of multiple things at the same time, which causes this.... excitement during a game, It's rather this real 1vs1 situation you find yourself in. The opponent has the exact same chances of losing or winning at the start of every match.
Am I the only one with this "issue" or are you guys experiencing similar things?
Every time I start up a ranked match my heart starts pumping like crazy and to the end of the game I actually start to sweat... It doesn't matter how often I try to calm myself, as soon as I see the loading my pulse goes sky-high
. It's not just the gameplay of a RTS, which requires you to take care of multiple things at the same time, which causes this.... excitement during a game, It's rather this real 1vs1 situation you find yourself in. The opponent has the exact same chances of losing or winning at the start of every match.
Am I the only one with this "issue" or are you guys experiencing similar things?
Kinyou said:Playing a RTS against other human players is for always quite exhausting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Every time I start up a ranked match my heart starts pumping like crazy and to the end of the game I actually start to sweat... It doesn't matter how often I try to calm myself, as soon as I see the loading my pulse goes sky-high
It's not just the gameplay of a RTS, which requires you to take care of multiple things at the same time, which causes this.... excitement during a game, It's rather this real 1vs1 situation you find yourself in. The opponent has the exact same chances of losing or winning at the start of every match.
Am I the only one with this "issue" or are you guys experiencing similar things?
yes, but i try to not take it too seriously, and just have fun. you tend to play better relaxed. drinking a beer or two helps as well!
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Lame... I'm in a stalemate with some asshole Terran player.
I have a large standing army and a lot of buildings left but no Nexus and no resources to build anything. I have killed everything but 3 of his buildings which he promptly lifted off and flew into a corner. I have nothing that can reach them and can't build anything so I can only sit here and watch him spam me with "Just leave!!!!"
They really need to give Terran buildings fuel or something so they can't just hide in a corner forever and ever.
I have a large standing army and a lot of buildings left but no Nexus and no resources to build anything. I have killed everything but 3 of his buildings which he promptly lifted off and flew into a corner. I have nothing that can reach them and can't build anything so I can only sit here and watch him spam me with "Just leave!!!!"
They really need to give Terran buildings fuel or something so they can't just hide in a corner forever and ever.
Kinyou said:Playing a RTS against other human players is for always quite exhausting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Every time I start up a ranked match my heart starts pumping like crazy and to the end of the game I actually start to sweat... It doesn't matter how often I try to calm myself, as soon as I see the loading my pulse goes sky-high
It's not just the gameplay of a RTS, which requires you to take care of multiple things at the same time, which causes this.... excitement during a game, It's rather this real 1vs1 situation you find yourself in. The opponent has the exact same chances of losing or winning at the start of every match.
Am I the only one with this "issue" or are you guys experiencing similar things?
I do, but pretty much only during 1v1. I don't like it. Big team games ftw.
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Kinda tempted to try playing Terran. Protoss has gotten kinda boring.
Aesthet1c said:
My story:
I was stuck around 1-4silver for a week, only to have it promote me to 5 Gold today. Then I just shunted down to 37 Gold, and had a bonus pool of 187,990 (!). After completing my next match it put me in placement matches again, and won't progress me past 4 left, although I seem to be playing at normal speed and everything.
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yeah, my bonus pool was in the hundreds of thousands