I've been getting a lot better with the hotkeys for shortcuts like building, but I'm still having trouble with control groups, especially past 1-3. Reaching my pointer finger out to hit 4 and 5 just feels unnatural and it doesn't help that I never was taught numbers in typing, so I have a tendency to revert to hunting and pecking as soon as I try to press a number key. :lol
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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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The Lamonster
Member
Getting better and better with Terran...still haven't won a game yet but I am getting closer and closer!
The game becomes more and more fun too. I can feel the addiction starting.
Hopefully there isn't a lot of time between the beta ending and final release!
The game becomes more and more fun too. I can feel the addiction starting.
Hopefully there isn't a lot of time between the beta ending and final release!
Minsc
Gold Member
Freki said:
Just FYI, you're much more likely simply to get banned if you post something against the ToS, than the mods editing your post and giving you another chance... there's probably exceptions, but if you aren't sure about something, you're better off simply not posting it.
I don't think discussion of the existence of a crack will get you banned, just don't post any links or tell people they/you are using it. And they/you shouldn't!
If anything hopefully whatever holes the hackers are using to get this working Blizzard will fix when it goes gold... c'mon Blizzard!
Minsc said:If anything hopefully whatever holes the hackers are using to get this working Blizzard will fix when it goes gold... c'mon Blizzard!
These holes are practicalley unimportant for the final version - i think best case scenario is gaming against ai and perhaps matches over hamachi - although i personally doubt that.
So a cracked version doesn't stand a chance against the official bnet when it comes to multiplayer in my opinion.
deathberry
Neo Member
Thanks Fragamemnon and mbmonk.
Starting with AI matches on the desert map, using Terrans. Once I have the initial build order down, I'll go 2v2; it's less harsh, and lasts more than 10 mins
I'm all up on Skittles and Mountain Dew, time to kick some ass!
Starting with AI matches on the desert map, using Terrans. Once I have the initial build order down, I'll go 2v2; it's less harsh, and lasts more than 10 mins
I'm all up on Skittles and Mountain Dew, time to kick some ass!
The Lamonster
Member
I know! Get a job, losers!aznpxdd said:
haha I'm at work and all kinds of jealous of you. We should play together sometime, my name is Lamonster.zone (US) but I probably won't be online for a couple days.deathberry said:
theMrCravens
Member
Yeah, but you're playing beta so...aznpxdd said:
I thought BNETD was neat when they wouldn't take me in the WAR3 beta.
or the D2 beta.
or the Starcraft beta.
The Lamonster
Member
As a Terran, how many SCVs should I create before building a supply depot/barracks/vespene gas? And which of those should I build first and second?
The Lamonster said:
Depends on your build order and I'm certainly not your best source of info on this, but I always go 9 SCV- SD, 11 SCV- Rax, 13/14 SCV- Ref. From there on out, it's really build dependant, as I might attempt to go more Rax and Refineries for an early Reaper rush, go ahead and start teching up to air for banshees, or medivacs for M&M. Keep in mind, though, I'm copper league myself, having never gotten any good at the original.
Protoss requires mashing 'E' for 60 minutes then :lolVictrix said:
You play 10 practice matches which puts you in a league (Gold,Silver,etc.) and a Division within that league (100 players).garath said:
However you can play people outside your division AND league. Say if you were a Gold and lost to a Silver player... Say bye bye to 17 points. On the other hand it will tell you who is favored, etc. More points for beating harder players. Also lose less to losing to harder players.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqR6G4i03D8
The Lamonster
Member
What does the A button do for Terran players?Hazaro said:
Trasher said:
This guys is friggin terrible....and...
he sound korean...
GG's to all who played last night. Eggs and Beacon got better...friggin detectors! jk
Taught Gribbix how to play some. Ill be home ~ 7-8pm PST today, LMK if you want to play, mainly looking for 2v2 AT, I play toss. LMK demi.demi
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
I go barracks at 9 scvs, SD at 11, and upgrade to orbital command as soon as the barracks pops. The SD should pop about the same time, so you can immediately pop marines. I build my vespene soon after that, regardless of strat.The Lamonster said:
Marines.The Lamonster said:
BTW, when I registered for the beta it scanned my comp, I recently reformatted and am wondering if I made a new account and re-registered under a diff name with diff games, would my comp show up in their systems twice and be flagged or what? Anyone got any ideas? The other key would go to a gaffer.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
They've moved most (all?) hotkeys to the left side of the keyboard. It through me off at first too, but now that I'm used to it, it's a clear improvement.aznpxdd said:
garath said:
If you keep winning games then you can move up a league. If you keep losing games, you can go down a league. Copper will remain the lowest, so after playing enough games, all the noobs should work their way down to Copper and stay there. That is how Blizzard will ensure a noob-friendly online environment, although it will take them quite a few beatings to get placed there.
If you want to guarantee placement in the Copper league, purposely lose all 10 placement matches.
Ice Monkey
Member
deathberry said:
reading this, it's like im schizo and you are writing this while im completely unaware. I felt the EXACT same way when I started the first day of beta, I raged really hard against having to get my ass handed to me over and over, and basically gave up and just played AI, and barely played any for a while after I got bored of the insanely easy AI.
See the thing was, I was still overwhelmingly interested in SC2 and basically read every intriguing post on the official SC2 beta forums and team liquid forums. Then, you know what I did? I played multiple games against the AI while trying to be very rush-centered and working on my build order.
So although I still trip up from time to time, my build order is basically SCVs/drones/probes NONSTOP until you at least get 2 guys per crystal. keep the rally set to the crystal, and when you move to gas, just take 3 guys from your crystals and set them to gas so as to not waste any time. After you get to 16 guys for a group of 8 crystals (it's always 8) yuo can even STILL keep creating them, and start thinking about expansions.
very important in the early game is to get supply depots etc out at the exact correct time to keep SCVs being produced. Every second counts in the beginning when you're trying to keep yourself well defended against rushes. One thing that works well for me as terran is a depot straight into a barracks, although I know thats a common build order. Make sure to get an orbital command asap and get mules out, but I personally like the insta-supply depot for when my pumps get stuck because of bad build orders.
I hated zerg at first, mainly because of how much they changed since SC1, but once you get used to nonstop using spawn larva you get a huge advantage against scrubby players. One thing I like to do as any race is to hotkey ALL hatch/cc/nexus to ctrl-0 and check their status that way. Especially with zerg, as I can rally all my hatches to 0 and then when I try to create units from larva, i can have ALL the larva selected without even looking at my base, like during an attack....i.e: good macro. Plus, what I usually then am able to tell is based on how many hatches I have, I can see how many larva are available, and if it's alot, guess what I need to go do to every hatch (sometimes 4 or more)? SPAWN LARVA BLAAAAAAR DO IT EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY.
Anyways, When you're very new to the competitive aspect like I was and like you described, I'd stick with matchmaking either random or with an arranged partner that you know can hold his own reasonably well. Here's what I'd start doing which doesn't take much intricate strategy whatsoever. You basically tell your teammate to take marines and marauders, or lots and stalks, or some roaches and lings, and then you, as terran with reapers or toss with stalkers maybe with blink (may be a high tech for blink) or some void rays, or zerg with mutas or something, its pretty much easiest with terran and their reapers. Anyways, what you do is wait for your teammate to attack like he's just doing a slow attack at their choke, trying to do what he can. Here's the thing though, what you're waiting for is the teammate to come help with his (likely) ground units, and then you rush in with your reapers and destroy his workers and CC, maybe even a few key buildings.
What I like most about that strategy is not that its the most effective strat in the world, but it doesnt take a LOT of effort in order to pull off and usually spells the end of the game against most teams because now you're much ahead. Make sure also in ANY situation that you dont just throw units away, this seems to be one of the most important things to do when you're trying to improve. If you have a lot of zealots and attack a zerg but he counters with roaches, just run away. Better to then come back with 6 stalkers plus the 8 zealots that you didnt throw away rather than just those 6 stalkers.
That's all I got for now but hopefully it helps.
The Lamonster
Member
dude. I am in the same position as deathberry so this post really helps. Thanks!Ice Monkey said:
I'd like to see a list of Terran hotkeys as well. Plz and thanks.Vitet said:Hey, what are the common hotkeys in the zerg? I play the spanish beta and I think it's a bit messed up.
select Larva is "L" / seleccionar Larva
Zergling "Z" / Zergling
roAch "A" / cucarachA
Drone "D" / zángano
queen "R" / Reina
Overlord "O" / superamO
Ice Monkey
Member
i think e is used a lot, r too
I suggest playing Zerg and playing defensively while going 1 or 2 hatch hydra / muta. (Roach timing is more of a rush)deathberry said:
Get your 2 gas early and try to gain the expansion just outside your base. If you re not comfortable with this you can tech on 1 base to hydra/muta (just build your second hatchery inside your ramp).
Just try to always spend your minerals. If you keep finding yourself with excess minerals (you'll want to save gas for mutalisks) go back in your replay and see where you could have spent them.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
I'll actually recommend playing either terran or protoss first (I'd recommend terran, but base defense can be a little tricky, I suppose).deathberry said:
I think most people struggling at the copper bracket are largely having a hard time managing their economy. It can be quite the trick to balance building workers and buildings with making sure you have a suitably large force.
Here's my advice: build probes/scvs constantly. Don't queue a bunch (that wastes minerals), just make sure as soon as one goes out, you have another in production. Use your excess funds to build marines, zealots, or stalkers. When you get to the point where you're constantly building scvs/probes and marines, zealots, or stalkers and you still have excess minerals, build another building, either to allow you to build more marines/zealots/stalkers, or to build something one tier above.
The single most important thing as you learn to play online is to make sure you're constantly building those workers. I don't recommend zerg, because zerg players simply can't constantly build drones while also building units. The economy is a great deal trickier for a zerg player.
Edit: and watch replays. Lots of replays.
Mindlog said:
It's not just straight grid, and that makes it confusing IMO. Some hotkeys correspond to the units names, some are seemingly arbitrary but are in reach on the left side of the keyboard, and others are just on other keys (I recall an M hotkey for something...). It doesn't make much sense...just gonna have to learn them.
The Lamonster
Member
I always just move my units around with A (for attack) then click....unless I'm retreating.
The Lamonster
Member
Is it weird to you guys that I still play Burbenog TD almost every night with my buddy?
(WarCraft III mod)
(WarCraft III mod)
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