Boy bawang
Member
I think it'll be rated 95-ish while players, in a few months, will see it as an 85-90 ish game. So a great game, but an overrated one.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
But 87 and 88 on PlayStation and Xbox so I’d be inclined to say 84 was not the overall consensus.
Gudji
Member
Yeah the AI is very basic from what I've seen in the 50 minute review. He did say that overall the combat was fun.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I'm going 92.
There. It is done.
There. It is done.
Interfectum
Member
This is the way.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I despise some of them, their in your face lack of integrity with a immature defiance . They are not journalists.
It blows me away man.
They’re not even talking about particular reviewers or outlets, it’s just aggregate scores (which is flawed process) from one site.
How do these people even talk about games?
“So what did you think?”
“7/10”
“But what’s the gameplay like? Does it have depth or is it superficial”
“75 Metacritic”
“Er….is it just clicking buttons like too many games or did you feel the ‘teeth’ of the mechanics? Is there a bit of dance of decisions or you are just watching cutscenes”
“Metacritic 75 to Metacritic 82 for different parts”
“I’m asking how it really plays, is it hard? Superficially hard or really challenging?”
“7.5/10 for difficulty”
“What the fuck is wrong with you?”
“metacritic aggregate score”
“Bye”
SJRB
Gold Member
There's no way this is correct.
Pagusas
Elden Member
The good news about that is mods can and have fixed these issues in other Bethesda games, so I'm not too worried on that front.
Gudji
Member
He said he talked to other reviewers and they complained about the same. I doubt he's wrong.
He even said the compass that they used to have in skyrim and FO4 is now different and confusing.
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Bernoulli
M2 slut
i do think that media gives scores based on hype, so this will easly be 95+ tbh
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
It's a Bethesda game ffs it'll be an 80-85 game on release and then the mods will turn it into a 95+
Aggregate user scores? Are you kidding me? The only people who bother to post them are insane fanboys. So every user score is laughable.
If I see low critic reviews and high user reviews that’s a flashing red light to me. I don’t care what over-invested randos think.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
I've never expected great enemy AI in a Bethesda game. I basically just sneak everywhere and headshot everyone.
Hugare
Member
He is known as being a bad player, but its probably true.
It makes sense due to the procedural generated planets, but those who have cities (Neon and etc.) should have had a map
Huge oversight
Will post it again since I posted it at the end of the page
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A brazilian reviewer (really bad one imo, but popular in Brazil) leaked his review
Scored it 8.5
Some points:
+ Said good things about the graphics. Looks really, really good in general ("lighting is brilliant")
+ Performance is pretty great, 30 with some rare dips. Complained about it lacking 60 FPS mode, but it was a very pleasent 30.
+ Soundtrack is "epic" and sound design is really good and satisfying. Dub is okay.
+ Most polished Bethesda game ever. No crashes at all and few bugs, but nothing major. Talked to other reviewers, no one experienced some serious bugs.
+ Spaceships look awesome (but combat is bad)
+ Main missions and sidequests are really good. They are simple in design, but they are well written and engaging. Best part of the game.
- Loading galore. Lots, lots of loading screens (shows 22 seconds long loading to enter one planet)
- There's no map. You have a galaxy map, but you dont have a planet map. So exploring cities, finding vendors and etc. is really hard. You have to memorize where they are.
- AI is really simple. No challenge during combat (companion AI is also pretty bad)
- Facial expressions are really bad. Nothing that would make you drop the game, but it sticks out.
- Exploration mechanics are underutilized. He never needed to prepare to explore an specific planet due to its toxic nature and etc., they all played the same
- No vehicles, so you have limited options for traversal
Overall: Great game.
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Represent.
Banned
Because its more fun. Its a video game forum not an election. Why are you so set on privacy lmao
I wanna see who voted 40%
kaizenkko
Member
Which hype? 2023 is one of the best years for games, Starfield is just one more...
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Interfectum
Member
I go by aggregate user score on Steam. Each user has a timestamp of how long they played the game, if they refunded it, they have to own it and you can see their profile for more information. Steam reviews have very rarely led me astray. MC user reviews are worthless because there is no verification if they even own the game.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
starfield is the biggest most hyped game in 2023
and from what i've seen it looks good
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Modern? This has been the case for at least 20 years. If anything it’s not as bad as it used to be. No matter how badly you wish 5/10 = average, that’s not how it is and everybody knows it.
Bottom line:
A = 90+
B= 80-89
C= 70-79 and so on.
I don’t want to have open-heart surgery done by a C surgeon, I don’t want to hire a C employee, and I probably don’t want to spend much time playing a C game.
That said, I’m not stupid. I can read a variety of reviews and judge if their various pros/cons line up with my own tastes. But if there’s a big, highly anticipated game from a dev with a history of genre-defining games, and across the board the reviews are “not great, merely good” then there are probably good reasons for that and yes it’s a disappointment.
alphachino
Member
I literally said that those scores are trash when manipulated.
Tomi
Member
I understand, but what did they doing all those years if we need to get help from mods to fix Ai?
We will need to w8 for another year to fix game with mods now, that's kinda fu**ed if you ask me
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It’s not a matter of effort. No amount of effort could deliver everything they want to (graphics + everything) at 4K/60. If they could then they would.
There is no engineering solution to get around this. If this game looked 10% worse the backlash would be unbelievable.
alphachino
Member
Exactly. This is not a recent phenomenon by any stretch of the imagination. Don't know where OP is coming from or how old that poster is if they think scores have only recently gotten inflated.
Gudji
Member
The dude shows a 22 second load time in his review and yes it was running on series X.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m not. But I also expect BG3 number to drop once the consoles reviews come out.
alphachino
Member
I've honestly never been so interested in a MC score of a game I've no interest in playing. LOL
If it gets 95%+ I will definitely install it though and check it out, which is something I presently have almost zero intention of doing.
If it gets 95%+ I will definitely install it though and check it out, which is something I presently have almost zero intention of doing.
kaizenkko
Member
Good, but not great.
GymWolf
Member
The bad news is that many people don't wanna wait for patches and want a complete game at launch because they don't plan on doing multiple runs of what is a gigantic ass game.
Some people put too much faith on mods that are gonna come months away from now when we already played the first and most significant (and probably only) run already.
I hate this "modders are gonna fix any problem" mentality, it doesn't fucking work like that with other games, bethesda doesn't have a special pass...
(I'm not mad at you, just the whole narrative)
Lokaum D+
Member
LOL, what is that grade ?
nowadays is more like
S = 99+
A = 95-98
B = 90-94
C = 85-89
D = 80-84
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TRASH = 79 and below
Pagusas
Elden Member
Oh I know, I'd rather the game have no major issues, or at least no major glaring ones. I just know how Skyrim launched vs how it was by year 1 and 2. A completely different experiance. If Starfield does thes same, I wouldn't complain, given Skyrim went from a 8/10 game to a 20/10 game for me.
Gudji
Member
Yeah people shouldn't have to use mods. I don't like using mods at all... I installed a couple on skyrim (SkyUI or whatever its called) but that's about it.
Flutta
Banned
* I never expect great enemy AI in Bethesda games
* I never expect nice graphics in Bethesda games
* I never expect Todd be honest
* I never expect Bethesda games to have less bugs
* I never bla bla bla and still i'll buy your games...
Maybe this is the reason why they are still using a 25 year old engine where they just add new skins, a new title and expect regular people to do the rest....embarrassing!
It's the wrong mindset to have, gamers need to demand more and stop expecting less from these multibillion dollar companies.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Stealth + jetpacks for me. Hopefully it's level design is like Dishonoured so I can jetpack unreachable ledges and take out enemies from behind.
Madflavor
Member
I was just hoping for some major improvements to their loadings screens, since 8 years ago with Fallout 4.
Nah. It’s because American culture dominates the world and American reviewers are obsessed with the school grading system where under 7/10 would be a failure.
But - and this is crazy - not everyone is American. Even more importantly, reviewing consumer products isn’t the same as grading someone’s essential education needs.
There’s no point to having a 0-10 scale if you’re rarely gonna use below 7.
I know how long it has been going on, thanks very much. But it has gotten worse and worse over that whole time.
It’s just a standard part of gaming culture now that anyone who likes the look of a game says “it better be AT LEAST an 8 or 9” in this aggressive way and unironic way.
7/10 is treated as a black mark, like it’s actually 4/10 or even 0!
Games come out and get generously reviewed (most games are slop) 1 point below some arbitrary line and half this board will go into meltdown.
Look at the amount of people coming in to ritualistically say “X MC”. Ooh yeah, there’s gonna be a lot to talk about if it’s 87 MC or 88.5 MC, isn’t there?
What the fuck happened, man?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why improve?
vaibhavpisal
Member
First time on the planet, it's likely setting up the tile.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
From some of the leaked videos, the only long load screens are when you land on a planet the first time, most other things like space flight etc are fade in, fade outs and the animations for the ship flying etc.
You all WANT inflated scores. You think there’s nothing that matters except 7-10, with 7 being a disaster. What is rest of the scale for?
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Will you complain why Baldurs Gate doesn't play like Diablo 4?
Get your build in place, you will have fun after that.
And what if it gets 94 MC?
Do you not realise how bizarre a way to think about games this is?
Kacho
Gold Member
Hey, some of use have standards, mate
R6Rider
Gold Member
This doesn't even make sense.
