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[Germuso]

Thanks phil

 

[ElFenomeno]

Please stop promoting Luke Stephens. He's a clown who stole content in the past and nowadays is just regurgitating the general opinion of the masses.

 

[GHG]

I can’t be the only one that is tired of the relentless negativity around every game?

It's not every game though?

Go look at comments surround most of the games mentioned in the following tow threads and I think you'll find most people are talking about having a good time:

Opinion - Poll - Your GotY so far? -- 2024 Vol. 2

Last thread: Posted May 7th. = https://www.neogaf.com/threads/your-goty-so-far.1670258/ Back again to see if anything has changed and of course include more titles. Not including DLC, expansions, or titles not released this year. For me: Before = Stellar Blade Now = Astro Bot What's yours?

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Temperature check - Top 10 games you played in 2024

Temperature check on best games you played this year. Doesn’t need to be games only released in 2024. Making this so I get exposure to stuff that’s been under my radar as well. Here’s my list: 1 Pentiment (2022) 2 As Dusk Falls (2022) 3 Rise of the Ronin 4 Helldivers 2 5 Still Wakes the Deep 6...

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[Hero of Spielberg]

I can’t be the only one that is tired of the relentless negativity around every game?

Just stick to OTs for actual discussion about games. These sort of threads are usually just shit slinging

 

[King Dazzar]

Nah hes right the game runs miles better now than it did at launch.

Its early days for me. But on XSX. Not only am I getting smooth performance now in fidelity mode using VRR 120hz. But the awful lighting and poor HDR caused impart by raised black level has been fixed via the HDR brightness slider - which controls black level. Which for a game set in space makes a lot of difference. The HDR is much better.

So its not only now running well, but I'm also not suffering the terribly washed out look from launch.

 

[R6Rider]

Please stop promoting Luke Stephens. He's a clown who stole content in the past and nowadays is just regurgitating the general opinion of the masses.

At least it's not Asmongold and his fucking reaction content. Zero effort garbage that gets shared waaayyy too often.

 

[chessy_08]

I regret buying starfield at all. Bethesda knew they were releasing a empty game and they still hyped the shit out of it

 

[IntentionalPun]

I can’t be the only one that is tired of the relentless negativity around every game?

You aren’t

We are supposed to think 15 hours for a DLC is small and care how many people review it within 24 hours on Steam I guess

 

[FoxMcChief]

I regret buying starfield at all. Bethesda knew they were releasing a empty game and they still hyped the shit out of it

It’s far from empty. There’s a shit ton of content. Sidequests thrown at you all of the place, faction quest lines with multiple outcomes, activities added to you list just by overhearing conversations, ship building, base building, etc. You can say you don’t like what the game has to offer, but saying it’s empty is fucking stupid.

 

[Warablo]

Seems mediocre for a DLC of a game that is 1 years old.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Please stop promoting Luke Stephens. He's a clown who stole content in the past and nowadays is just regurgitating the general opinion of the masses.

 

[Dafegamer]

"Only 15 Hours long"

Bruh.... Early SNES games am cry :/

 

[Vyse]

10 hours or so is fine for me. I really liked the base game. Looking forward to jumping back in.

 

[gothmog]

Microsoft becoming a retirement home for these old devs.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Its early days for me. But on XSX. Not only am I getting smooth performance now in fidelity mode using VRR 120hz. But the awful lighting and poor HDR caused impart by raised black level has been fixed via the HDR brightness slider - which controls black level. Which for a game set in space makes a lot of difference. The HDR is much better.

So its not only now running well, but I'm also not suffering the terribly washed out look from launch.

What value do you set the slider too? What T? Do you have an settings there if you do not mind sharing?

 

[demigod]

So it’s longer than Astro Bot?

Add the same loading time and Astro Bot will easily be a 60 hour game.

 

[M.W.]

ES6 already sucks.

 

[Frwrd]

*Modders haven’t done much if anything [worth mentioning] to the game*

Bethesda [useless pieces of shit] devs: “There is nothing to add, what are we going to sell!?”

 

[demigod]

Bro got owned, what a fucking loser.

 

[Laptop1991]

Yeah, that's modern Bethesda, unrecognizable and a pale shadow of what they once were, but no doubt 76 will be getting longer content to keep fans paying more over and over soon!.

 

[FunkMiller]

Please stop promoting Luke Stephens. He's a clown who stole content in the past and nowadays is just regurgitating the general opinion of the masses.

He nicked Hbomberguy's review of Bloodborne nine years ago, has apologised endlessly since for being an extremely dumb kid, and is now a pretty decent Youtuber.

 

[salva]

$30 for 10hrs is $3/hr.
Apparently most gamers live on the streets and are the poorest people in the world.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Boy I do hope you understand how those 10 hours in open world RPG and 10 hours in something like Space Marine 2 are not actually the same hours. You don’t waste up to 5 hours on Emil’s writing and needless traversal along with loading screens in Space Marine 2, you’re getting condensed cinematic action experience. You’re also don’t spend your time on inventory management, badly written dialogue trees, crafting and other BethRPG stuff.

Look, I can’t say that I hate Starfield, but this game has a tremendous talent of wasting your time on the most trivial actions possible like finding ammo or traversal.

So yeah, 10 hours for RPG content in general is small, in case of Bethesda games you can call this DLC almost tiny for the asking price.

 

[gow3isben]

So is it as bad as people say? I am getting on initial impressions that 30 dollars for this is a travesty.

 

[gow3isben]

I can’t be the only one that is tired of the relentless negativity around every game?

Please take your talents to the Astro Bot or Black Myth Wukong threads then chief

 

[AGRacing]

I got through the beginning this afternoon on PC. The first set piece. It was unique vs other things I’ve seen in the game at this point. I’ll keep playing. Feels interesting.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

So is it as bad as people say? I am getting on initial impressions that 30 dollars for this is a travesty.

Its not everyday we get Bethesda rpg. Same for Bioware, Obsidian etc.

Ubisoft inspired games don’t replace them. I would rather play games from these companies.

 

[Gp1]

Who would have thought that Bethesda would screw us once again...

The most underwhelming game of their entire roster get an underwhelming expansion.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Maybe the next expansion will fix it

 

[sendit]

Not sure why people are mocking completion time. That's twice the length as the last full fledged triple A title from Microsoft.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It’s far from empty. There’s a shit ton of content. Sidequests thrown at you all of the place, faction quest lines with multiple outcomes, activities added to you list just by overhearing conversations, ship building, base building, etc. You can say you don’t like what the game has to offer, but saying it’s empty is fucking stupid.

The world is extremely empty with nothing exciting or emergent happening

 

[gow3isben]

Not sure why people are mocking completion time. That's twice the length as the last full fledged triple A title from Microsoft.

It isn't the time but the content within that is the issue I'm seeing

 

[FoxMcChief]

The world is extremely empty with nothing exciting or emergent happening

And that’s a stupid opinion.

 

[Heisenberg007]

And that’s a stupid opinion.

BTW - Starfield devs themselves say that the world in Starfield, to an extent at least, is empty and that's by design.

Starfield dev says some of the space RPG's "planets are empty by design - but that's not boring"

A Bethesda developer responds to criticism

www.gamesradar.com

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

And that’s a stupid opinion.

No, Starfield is just a stupidly designed game

 

[Maddoxswe]

And that’s a stupid opinion.

But he's right ?

 

[Life Diff]

Is anyone surprised? Bethesda are creatively bankrupt. The writing especially has got worse and worse. I have no doubt ES6 will do well sales wise but if it's like Starfield - hard fucking pass from me.

 

[SJRB]

And that’s a stupid opinion.

What are you, 12 or something?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

No, Starfield is just a stupidly designed game

In DLC, you can explore and find stuff out of curiosity.

But sure, you prefer checklist type open world games, so it will appear like that.

 

[Thebonehead]

But he's right ?

 

[Majormaxxx]

too expensive

 

[Bojanglez]

"Only 10+ hours"?

That seems reasonable for DLC, obviously if it's 10 hours of crap then that's a problem, but the time alone doesn't seem problematic.

 

[CityHunter1981]

Since when is it “only 10-15 hours”? That is long enough, especially for a DLC.
Not interested in the game, but complaining about the game length seems really strange.

 

[FewRope]

Bethesda games suck so much ass, ES6 its going to be a piece of shit too. They are terrible developers, maybe 15 years ago Obliivion was actually ground breaking but not anymore

 

[SJRB]

"Only 10+ hours"?

That seems reasonable for DLC, obviously if it's 10 hours of crap then that's a problem, but the time alone doesn't seem problematic.

I kinda agree in principle but the dlc is 30 bucks which is quite hefty considering what you get with it. 30 dollars is a lot of money.

This may have done better had it been 15 tops.

 

[Sybrix]

The 10-15 hours play time is perfectly fine for a DLC.

It appears Bethesda are heading in right direction with a focus on one planet and making it an actual planet to explore and discover stuff, as opposed to the base game where the planets are sparse and empty.

But Bethesda need to crank it into top gear tbh, they need to be releasing updates to the base game to increase the number of POI on all the planets, each update with at least 5-10 planets each with multiple unique POIs where it actully feels like your exploring a new world.

Or do some DLC where one of the systems has this type of update, where we get at least 5 planets to explore with this level of detail.

It's what should have been in the base game already, back when Todd Howard said "100s of planets" i was fearful then & thought no way are they going to be achive a Skyrim on each planet, which is what the implication was.

 

[King Dazzar]

What value do you set the slider too? What T? Do you have an settings there if you do not mind sharing?

From what I've found so far. The higher you set the HDR brightness slider, the lower the black level - so max it at 1.00; Brightness 2.40 default and contrast default of zero. Frame rate target 60, visuals. XSX system 120hz and VRR enabled. HDR calibration make sure you set black level to zero/minimum.

 

[DarkArterialGore]

It’s going to take a complete rework to bring people back. If they really plan to support this for years to come maybe that happens. They might be better off moving on.

Bethesda needs to just focus on the next Elder Scrolls game now and Phil Spencer needs to put his foot down and tell Todd that he's taking the Fallout franchise away from him and giving it to one of the other 1st party Microsoft devs like Sledgehammer, MachineGames, id, Avalanche, Arkane, InXile or even Obsidian(Outer Worlds sucked though ) because otherwise it will take another decade to see Fallout 5 because Bethesda take an age to do everything.

 

[BigLee74]

Thread has turned to shit with folk moaning about Bethesda and how their games suck and how their next game will suck.

I would like to read about, as a guy that enjoys Starfield, people’s opinion on this DLC.

Definitely not James Sawyer Ford bumping his fucking gums endlessly about how he hates this game. There’s a million other Starfield threads full of that.

 

[GinSama]

The 10-15 hours play time is perfectly fine for a DLC.

It appears Bethesda are heading in right direction with a focus on one planet and making it an actual planet to explore and discover stuff, as opposed to the base game where the planets are sparse and empty.

I still need to start the dlc yet, but that's the thing that I keep hearing from people that played already and the trailers from Bethesda shows that....and yet I see people saying is the same game, same faults like not handmade environment, empty spaces, same issues as the base game whatever ....

I'm a bit confused...