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Starfield's Shattered Space DLC Launches to Mixed Reviews, Reportedly only 10+ Hours Long
Zacfoldor
Member
Is it the same quality as Cyberpunk DLC?
I think the issue is mainly people were hoping it would elevate the entire game not just have a small slice of something new. Like people were wanting Starfield 2.0 with everything fixed and suddenly an amazing game. That was never gonna happen imo. DLC is what DLCs usually are, just a bit more Starfield.
BigLee74
Member
Cheers! How could I forget about
Starfield Shattered Space |OT| Is that the Great Serpent or are you just happy to see me?
Overview Shattered Space is a new story expansion for Starfield, Bethesda Game Studios' epic role-playing game and first new universe in more than twenty-five years. A mysterious power stirs in the city of Dazra on House Va'Ruun's hidden homeworld. Investigate a frightening cosmic threat...www.neogaf.com
Topher
’s one and only OT 
Carry on it would seem. This is indeed the thread for the whiny unwashed who don’t own/have no intention of owning the Starfield DLC to come into and continue their relentless bashing
JackMcGunns
Member
I know you're not trying to compare a full retail game to a DLC. Ooooh the hypocricy.
I hope you caught on that my example was to highlight the fallacy of your statement. You simply spoke about length and said 10hrs? I hope it's priced accordigly. So based on length, they most definitely can be compared.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Dunno, there's probably no way to answer this objectively.
If you've never played cp77 before and got it with the DLC, then probably yeah.
If you played cp77 at launch and then dropped it because of "the issues", but came back for the DLC, then probably no.
Maddoxswe
Member
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Nydius
Gold Member
Man, the Pure Xbox review is brutal.
Especially this little blurb:
Oof.
That’s fine, if it were cheaper. But when they’re charging the same price as Phantom Liberty for this, I don’t think it was terribly unreasonable for people to expect more than what was delivered. Just my 2c.
Especially this little blurb:
Oof.
That’s fine, if it were cheaper. But when they’re charging the same price as Phantom Liberty for this, I don’t think it was terribly unreasonable for people to expect more than what was delivered. Just my 2c.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
SEGAvangelist
Member
He liked the game. People have opinions.Xbox Era ... lmao, gave it a 9/10,
Most of his are REALLY bad ones, TBF.
Shifting development to Elder Scrolls / Fallout right now is the right play.
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Kacho
Gold Member
Might as well. I’m a huge BGS fanboy and I think Starfield is painfully dull. The progression and character development are ass.
If I start a new character in Fallout 3/4 I’ll be playing until the sun comes up. I fired up Starfield on Monday and went back to playing Dragon Age Origins instead. Baka.
Plague Doctor
Member
I got to admit that I am incredibly surprised.
People who still stuck around after Starfield will literally love any Bethesda Slop poured into their troughs. Like they are that fabled devoted audience that doesn't ask questions but consumes product.
I am surprised they developed something of a standard.
People who still stuck around after Starfield will literally love any Bethesda Slop poured into their troughs. Like they are that fabled devoted audience that doesn't ask questions but consumes product.
I am surprised they developed something of a standard.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I enjoyed Starfield, but I don't love the open world random quest nature of games like Elder Scrolls and Fallout. I actually liked the guided questing in Starfield as exploration has never been for me. That said, it's clearly not the game for BGS fans. Just move on, yeah.
You're missing what happened. BGS fans DIDN'T like Starfield.
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Kacho
Gold Member
I’d be more inclined to suffer through the dullness if it had decent progression. BGS RPGs started with pen and paper inspired progression. Ever since Skyrim they keep trying to reinvent the wheel and it’s become so basic. There’s nothing compelling about leveling in Starfield.
King Dazzar
Member
Xbox Era ... lmao, gave it a 9/10,
They just want to exist in a cosy fanboi make believe community. An alternative reality. One of the guys I spoke to was nice enough, but yeah, full on delusional.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They don't do fans or Xbox any service. By holding them accountable when necessary.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
I played it, came with the game for me, yes I was a dumb dumb and got it with the game. I thought it was going to be like their other games dlc's, but I was wrong. It is bad, dialog, writing, forced path progress... its not worth it. Its another thing that just should have been in the base game...
gow3isben
Member
Bethesda is 100% moving on from Starfield
Zacfoldor
Member
I didn't know where you were going with that but you pulled it out in the second sentence.
Pandawan
Member
They said they would release one new DLC per year for Starfield. I wonder if they will abandon that idea now and this DLC will be the last one
ChorizoPicozo
Member
so... based in the steam numbers, are we having a Concord situation in our hands again?
Starbuck2907
Member
Starfield is much better than it was at launch, it’s a good game, but I can see why some people don’t like it. Space is a little too empty for the typical Bethesda formula to work well. It’s still a good game, not great, but good, if you adjust your expectations and give it a chance. However, at launch, I totally understand why it caused so much frustration. The bugs only made its flaws stand out more.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I like Nick, and I think Jesse is a good reviewer, actually. It's non-video game things we don't agree on.
About half a billion dollars off that situation.
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Astray
Member
The base game sold millions of copies so no.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
im talking about the expansion/DLC. how many new players increased because of it?
Topher
Identifies as young
It still isn't comparable to Concord. It can still be called a flop sales wise, but it isn't in danger of being pulled from sale.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Why will this be Concord situation?
Do you see anything off putting about it?
Whenever i see a stream, i feel like I should be playing it. Though have decided to wait for at least 2-3 expansions before starting a playthrough.
SJRB
Gold Member
This DLC is not pulling in any new players. Some of the people who enjoyed the base game will try it, but this won't reignite interest outside of the core fanbase.
But note that the all-time peak is of course nothing like the Concord situation.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
i was taking about market rejection. I don't think anyone thinks Bethesda or Starfield are in danger of being closed/refunded
. it seems like it had a little bump.
Topher
Identifies as young
When you say "Concord situation" that's the first thing I think about so thanks for the clarification.
Kacho
Gold Member
Are they ride or die purple bros? What do you mean?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You tried knocking a game that is a GOTY contender by comparing it to what I'm reading is a poorly received bugg filled mess.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
arkhamguy123
Banned
Honestly starfields flop is kinda mind blowing
Skyrim is one of the most GOTY awarded games of all time. Fallout 4 made what? 700M opening weekend or something like that? It’s basically on the level of if Rockstar or Naughty Dog released a critical and commercial bomb
Skyrim is one of the most GOTY awarded games of all time. Fallout 4 made what? 700M opening weekend or something like that? It’s basically on the level of if Rockstar or Naughty Dog released a critical and commercial bomb
diffusionx
Gold Member
They had like eight years and unlimited amounts of money to make exactly the game they wanted... And this was it.
arkhamguy123
Banned
Makes it even MORE mind blowing
Kacho
Gold Member
100%? I'm holding you to that.
SEGAvangelist
Member
They ain't SEGA blue.
Kacho
Gold Member
SJRB
Gold Member
They release Skyrim, great but insanely buggy. But hey it's an ambitious game releasing on PS360 consoles so everyone's like "meh we'll deal with it".
Then they release Fallout, not nearly as good as Skyrim, but equally buggy. Releasing on PS4 and Xbox One so old hardware is not an excuse anymore. The quests are bad, a lot of mechanics poorly implemented, graphics are mediocre at best. People start wondering what the hell is going on.
Then they release Fallout 76. Need I say more.
Then they release Starfield. Their first original title in decades. Spent god know how much time and how many dollars on it. And guess what, it's not even nearly as good as Skyrim. Buggy, extremely poor quest design, terrible game flow with loading screens up the wazoo, archaic mechanics, overall just an aggressively mediocre experience.
At this point Skyrim seems like a fluke. Bethesda is just a super mid developer at best, touting Todd Howard as some S-tier videogame genius who in reality hasn't made an actual good game in more than a decade.
arkhamguy123
Banned
Think you just nailed it. Shame. I was so hyped for starfield
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twilo99
Member
The paradox is that if you look at some of the reviews and general sentiment this Starfield DLC should actually fare worse than Concord...
gow3isben
Member
If I’m wrong I’ll give u three fiddy
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Does anyone seriously expect Bethesda to be capable of writing a story on the level of Phantom Liberty? Does Todd even care about story?