SteveWinwood
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Great movie. I need to watch it again.
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Great movie. I need to watch it again.
SapientWolf
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And our youth!
xenoflux2113
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I just got an email that I have silver status in EQ2, aparently I had an account I must have forgotten about. I don't know what silver status means but it has to be good right? And IF I play it there are bound to be benefits...
jim-jam bongs
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Yup
I've been in a bit of an existential mood lately, so Phillip K. Dick is my compass.
Joe Molotov
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Nothing wrong with having some Dick.
I can give you a hint on how to find out.
Google. Takes 3 seconds, Already found the answer myself which each tier and this is from someone who never played the game.
SteveWinwood
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jim-jam bongs
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For sure, though I think I've had a bit too much Dick on the brain lately.
Syphon Filter
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Whoa
xenoflux2113
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Found the answer like a pro thanks Shintoki!
The Broken Ska Record
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I got an extra copy of Bastion and I'm giving it away on Twitter, I'm not sure if I can whore my Twitter account here or not.
Also, I got a copy of the game, with soundtrack, for me. :3
Also, I got a copy of the game, with soundtrack, for me. :3
Np and sorry if I sounded rude. I'm currently on a google rampage for chemistry now.
xenoflux2113
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No worries.
I already used mine to buy Trains vs. Zombies Railworks DLC like Joe Molotov!Hey, I have a coupon...
Have: 50% OFF RailSimulator Title or DLC
Want: Anything that is not this coupon. ANYTHING. A TF2 Sandvich or something.
Coupon is good till the 12th. Works on Game and the DLC.
Dog Problems
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d[-_-]b;33276815 said:
It's pretty damn good. My personal game of the year and I recall a few others saying that.
The_Player
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This icon is so out of place.
Yeah, Bastion is all about style over substance. Apparently a lot of people think it's awesome, so what do I know, but I found the gameplay (which is almost all combat) pretty one dimensional and the repetition turned me off before I got to the end. I lost interest after the mission that put me up against like 20 waves of enemies. It wasn't difficult or anything like that, just lazily designed and tedious. The visuals and music were wonderful, but I didn't enjoy playing it at all. Maybe I'll pick it up again some day but I'm not a fan of what I've played.
It seems to me he's being quite objective -- he acknowledges the strong points of the game, admits that it has high quality in most areas, but says that he personally did not like it much. He mentions the gameplay was boring to him, and someone else gave a similar opinion.
SteveWinwood
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Did you have to opt in to the beta to get the mail icon thing?
What a great post for a new page.
What a great post for a new page.
Message logs/history would be nice.
If he didn't find it enjoyable it should have been a lower score. Just laughing once again at the industry's 7-10 scale. Scores and reviews are inherently subjective, you can acknowledge good points and still be true to your opinion of the game.
I don't disagree with his points as I haven't played the game yet but 8/10 being not an enjoyable game is hilarious to me.
I just don't agree with that. Take a more exaggerated example:
American football games. It could be the very best NFL game that has ever come out, with great graphics and announcing and rosters and whatnot, and have practically NO flaws, and I would still not want to purchase it or play it. Even if I did play it, I might not enjoy it since I'm hardly ever interested in sports games. Does that mean that, if I'm a reviewer, I should punish it with a low score just because I don't enjoy the game?
SteveWinwood
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AIM did this. Like centuries ago. It can't be that hard :/
Ok how about this then
Gameplay - 5 out of 10
Sound - 10 out of 10
Presentation 10 out 10
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If you are giving a personal review of it (which is what he was doing)? For sure.
However since he never said "but I don't enjoy games like this usually" I'd assume that's not actually the issue here anyways.
Sure but that's not what I was laughing at.
Dog Problems
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I can see why people wouldn't like the gameplay because I understand how it'd be average. And while I agree, it reminded me of a couple of older isometric games, LandStalker and its sequel Dark Savior, both games that I love so there's some nostalgia there for me with Bastion in regards to its gameplay.
Right, I was just pointing out that I think it's possible to call something a good game without enjoying it much.
I like that his new 25/30 rating still comes out to 8/10 unless we weight categories. =D
All righty well then Bastion is a very good pick up according, Mr. Gez, because the astounding presentation and soundtrack make a 5 into an 8. We're agreed that he must buy it then, yes?
My interpretation from Gez and other people in this thread is that though the presentation and soundtrack are astounding, the gameplay may bore some people. Since there is fortunately a demo available, everyone can try for themselves to see whether the overall package seems like a match for their tastes.
Togglesworlh
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Reviews are opinions. Reviewers should not write from another person's point of view. They should write from their own point of view. If they fucking hate a game, they say they hate it, even if someone else might love it.
STOP IT.
I like the gameplay in Bastion. It is sufficiently fun.
STOP IT.
I like the gameplay in Bastion. It is sufficiently fun.
You respect its merits even if you don't enjoy it much. Seems like a pretty common rationale.
My interpretation from Gez and other people in this thread is that though the presentation and soundtrack are astounding, the gameplay may bore some people. Since there is fortunately a demo available, everyone can try for themselves to see whether the overall package seems like a match for their tastes.
I would submit that I feel like saying a game is boring and then rating it an 8 is like a girl saying she is repulsed by you but giving you a blowjob anyways but hey, that's me.
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Stabby McSter
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Rolls make games automatically great. Sooooo, Bastion is pretty awesome.
CecilRousso
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Bastion is one of those games that you buy only if you beaten all other games you already have, because even though its a good game, it really isnt interesting enough that you should choose it over games you already paid for and need to play.
Togglesworlh
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This guy knows what he's talking about.
saw Bastion in the TIME top 10 games of 2011, saw the cheap price on steam, so I want to buy it. But I'm at work and the offer expires before I'll get home. I've logged into the steam website but prices are all in dollars (I'm in the UK). Can I just buy or do I have to change a setting somewhere?
Yup
I've been in a bit of an existential mood lately, so Phillip K. Dick is my compass.
A Scanner Darkly is
Probably one of the most personal and heartfelt novels I've ever read.
snoopeasystreet
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If you can see something is good but a certain part isn't for you, you could give the thing a good store. For example, in the show Downton Abbey, I consider almost everything about it to be top notch but I don't like the Edwardian setting. Should I call this a bad show despite being clearly able to see the good parts?
Game reviews are even more nebulous than film seeing as they're a combination of product and art.
Togglesworlh
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It's all fine and dandy if you see it that way and feel the need to state those things. If you don't see it that way, or don't feel it's important, there's no reason you should act otherwise. There are certainly many times throughout my life where I have encountered a piece of entertainment that contained both things I like and dislike, and I will explain them as I see fit. There are also times where I will go, "I can see the appeal, but it's not for me!" Great! Those times are great. Sometimes, though, I will play a game and hate it hate it hate it and not understand why anyone could like it even a little, yet it turns out it's one of the more popular games in recent history. I'm not going to change my "review" (if in fact I actually wrote reviews) because of this fact.
But you shouldn't score a game* higher just because there are good things about it if you didn't actually enjoy your time with it. That's no longer an opinion. That's all I'm saying.
And on the other side, picking apart someone's opinion because you don't agree with it is a waste of everyone's time. That's why they're called opinions. Reviews are especially worthless when all they do is state facts. If I wanted facts, I would go to the game's official website.
*I should've ended it here, because scores are silly in the first place, but what're you gonna do.
...I apologize for this rant. I'm tired. I'm going to bed. Rip me a new one, SEE IF I CARE.
But you shouldn't score a game* higher just because there are good things about it if you didn't actually enjoy your time with it. That's no longer an opinion. That's all I'm saying.
And on the other side, picking apart someone's opinion because you don't agree with it is a waste of everyone's time. That's why they're called opinions. Reviews are especially worthless when all they do is state facts. If I wanted facts, I would go to the game's official website.
*I should've ended it here, because scores are silly in the first place, but what're you gonna do.
...I apologize for this rant. I'm tired. I'm going to bed. Rip me a new one, SEE IF I CARE.
Yeah, is that something so hard to include?
Twig sux.
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