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Steam Controller overview and videos/impressions
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Pillars of Eternity
This, please!
RealityCheque
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OK scenario question:
I have a main gaming pc hooked up to my TV. I often use in-home streaming to play games on my laptop when the rest of my family wants the tv. If I hook the steam controller up to the laptop, do the bindings I've set while using the main computer follow it across?
I have a main gaming pc hooked up to my TV. I often use in-home streaming to play games on my laptop when the rest of my family wants the tv. If I hook the steam controller up to the laptop, do the bindings I've set while using the main computer follow it across?
Same. Got my email on Thursday. Hoping they arrive pretty quickly, but I imagine they'll be arriving for the 16th.
Divinity Original Sin
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I'm actually playing both right now. Please stream these two.
ashecitism
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Should work yeah, as according to Krejlooc the settings get saved on the controller itself. That's why if you set up bindings for a non-Steam game with BPM, then the next time launch it without Steam running, your settings will be still there. At least that's how I understood it.
No, steam still needs to run, you just dont need to be in bpm.
ashecitism
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I see. So, would his scenario work?
Would you be so kind as to record a video showing this process for something like an emulator?
Astral/H3X
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Quick question:
Once you've loaded a non steam game through BPM, will Steam notice that game loading from the desktop, and not through steam? Or do you at least need to launch it using steam?
Once you've loaded a non steam game through BPM, will Steam notice that game loading from the desktop, and not through steam? Or do you at least need to launch it using steam?
The only thing holding me back from considering PC gaming is that i want to play every game with a controller. I don't play shooters or MOBA's so i don't care about the disadvantages with that.
Will this controller allow me to go on steam, pick out a game and be able to play it with a controller without the need of other programs(e.t Joystick mapper).
Also what does this controller offer that console controller don't in regards to playing PC games, I just wanna know if it will significantly enhance my experience over using console controllers.
Will this controller allow me to go on steam, pick out a game and be able to play it with a controller without the need of other programs(e.t Joystick mapper).
Also what does this controller offer that console controller don't in regards to playing PC games, I just wanna know if it will significantly enhance my experience over using console controllers.
North American orders get shipped out a little later to match up with international orders.
European are being shipped from Europe, not North America, if what you're implying is that they're shipping out European orders earlier so that they get to Europe from NA in time.
But it doesn't look like they're actually shipping European orders out yet anyway, they're just printing shipping labels and getting tracking numbers, when you track the package it just says:
Mine has been like that since Thursday (now Saturday).
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It offers mouse like control of viewpoint/aim. That's the biggest selling point over say a XBOX 360 controller and a huge improvement in gamepads. The second is tons of configurability. No, you should not need any other programs. You might have to configure the controller for the game as it won't be a straight mapping like on a 360 controller. I don't know if it registers as a XInput device straight away or not.
Can the motion sensor be mapped to specific keys or analog stick etc like everything else can? After playing Drive Club on PS4 with motion control for steering I'd love to be able to do that in all driving games as well as games like GTA V. GTA V on the PS4 supports motion controls for flying etc but not on the PC even with a DS4 connected. If I could for example make a modifier that makes the controller to use motion control steering when I am in a car, that would be grand!
MetalSlug
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You wouldn't happen to have Theme Hospital or Little Big Adventure 2, to try out on the Steam Controller?
ashecitism
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That's the plan, yes. If you need to configure it, then you can do that in Steam.
I'd say customization. You can tailor it to your playstyle and with things like button modifiers, the grips and dual-stage triggers you can have potentially more inputs or reduce the need to always access the face buttons for primary functions. But this really depends what type of games you want to play. Better precision is also something it can offer, but that will require a bigger learning curve with the touchpads.
Well, in the Witcher stream 8bit mapped the shift mouse (it's when you stop using the mouse as the camera and use it to the pick magic etc on the left) as the gyro and he accessed it through a modifier. So, I guess it could work, but I don't know how's it handled in GTA V. When you enter a vehicle it switches to different controls?
http://www.twitch.tv/8bitcerberus/v/18596141
it was in this stream, can't say where because I use livestreamer, but you'll find it. When you use a modifer you have to hold that down though.
alexandros
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Yes, that is exactly right. The controller is recognized as a keyboard and mouse by games that don't support xinput controllers so you'll be able to play everything with it.
Well, I'd say that by far the biggest advantage of the Steam Controller is that it supports games and genres that were thus far unplayable with a controller. Various mouse-driven games are now playable from the couch. Other than that, the touchpads are certainly more precise than a standard analogue stick so you'll have better control over aiming. The paddles offer more buttons without having to move your hands from their normal position, there are also gyro controls that should work nicely for some games, plus the controller is so customizable that there's no telling what kind of specialized control schemes developers will come up with in the future. Exciting times!
Yeah, I got that when I was trying to play Towerfall and Nidhogg with two 360 controllers and the Steam controller. Wonder if it was recently fixed in a beta update.
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Pocky4Th3Win
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So you can't use the controller if your morning big picture mode? What about if the overlay is disabled? Does every app need to have the profile added or will valve provide stock ones so if a game is X360 pad compatible I can just load a profile with similar setup without having to rebind everything?
Yes, apparently u can use it with any game whether or not they have controller support. I have my gaming PC hooked up to my tv as I'm more of a console gamer but there's so many awesome games on steam that I wanted to play for so long but I just can't play with keyboard/mouse. So this is supposed to eliminate that and allow u to use this steam controller .
ashecitism
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You can use the controller, but if you want to configure it you need BPM.
You'll have templates, community bindings and in some cases recommended bindings (by devs or Valve) to choose from. There are templates like twin stick shooter, WASD+mouse, regular controller+mouse, regular controller+joystick look etc
Sorry, don't understand the first question. You can use it thought BPM, but the controller will default to emulating as mouse and keyboard, so you'd be able to rebind controls in-game to match it better.
Does every app need to have the profile added or will valve provide stock ones so if a game is X360 pad compatible I can just load a profile with similar setup without having to rebind everything?
You can create a profile for every game and Valve does provide stock templates, like keyboard+mouse, gamepad+mouse and Xinput gamepad. There are also Community created templates that show up for games, that users have customised themselves.
So apparently they're sending the controllers from the Netherlands, the tracking link from the client takes me to a GLS page and shows me this:
Same situation. My Steam Controller was "shipped" from 29/09
Yep that what I was implying. I would assume that by the middle of the month is when they will start shipping.
Assuming he is running steam on his laptop, yup.
I haven't used it much with android yet, actually.
Sure, probably tomorrow. I was going to livestream yesterday but i wound up not having time. My buddy is coming into town tomorrow night and we'll be doing some more live streaming. He particularly wants me to help him set up NullDC so he can play Shenmue I and II on his PC, so we can use that to showcase how it works with emulation.
alexandros
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Woodsie posted a video with impressions from Assault Android Cactus, Towerfall, Crypt of the Necrodancer and Axiom Verge:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=428f76P8nCk
He speaks very highly of the touchpad when used as a d-pad, which is great news for those worried about it.
He will also be doing more videos with GTAV, non-Steam games and other stuff.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=428f76P8nCk
He speaks very highly of the touchpad when used as a d-pad, which is great news for those worried about it.
He will also be doing more videos with GTAV, non-Steam games and other stuff.
People won't know until they have one in their hands, but trust me when I say it's fine as a D-pad. completely acceptable. If I'm playing 2D games on the steam controller, I use the d-pad instead of the analog stick. The haptics, especially when turned up, are really good. It's neat how you can "feel" a second button press when you're holding one direction, then rock your finger to hit the diagonal.
The guy in the above video misses some advanced options. You, in fact, can enable ramp up on the left pad/left stick by enabling analog emulation under the overlap settings. And the method of controlling the right pad as an analog stick - where the center of the pad is the center of the stick, is a generic gamepad option. A better solution is available under the template Gamepad + Joystick Camera, which changes the way the right pad works. With Joystick Camera, where ever you put your thumb down on the track pad becomes the deadzone, and you pull outward from there to move the analog stick. As you pull outward, the haptics start to fire off more as you reach the extents, and it kind of feels like stretching a rubber band taut. This mode is much better than the template known as generic gamepad. If you enable generic gamepad, then the center of the right touchpad is always the deadzone area.
That sounds so weird. I'm really interested in wrapping my Chee-tos claws around one now.
Looking at pictures of it before, I just imagined I'd just use the analog stick the majority of the time, but hearing that the Left pad as a Dpad works so well and you can actually be precise with it really calms my butt since I don't like analog sticks for 2D games at all.
alexandros
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That's great info, I'll post this on his youtube channel so that he can experiment with it in future videos.
it's hard to explain, but it feels like rocking the mousewheel on your mouse. You feel an actual, physical depress when you push down on the touchpad to register one direction, then, as you roll your thumb around, the haptics let you feel like the d-pad is rocking. Like, if you're holding right, and rock your finger down, you can actually feel and hear the click when it starts registering the down button is also being pressed.
Despite this, I actually don't rock my thumb very often, unless I'm doing some tricky maneuvering. I actually like lifting my thumb up off the pad. The very large surface gives you lots of room to hit each direction, and the indention lets you also feel the difference between a cardinal direction and an in-between.
I've been making lots of notes and really exploring how to set up the controller. I'm hoping to get a pretty comprehensive guide of the options out by the 16th, because I don't think valve will really have anything ready that walks people through the amount of options the controller has. And it has tons of them, and lots of them aren't easily explained.
That's hardly a victory beating an analog stick. How is it in comparison to other good d-pads? (Like the Japanese Saturn pad or the Vita one). And what about if we compare it to contemporary d-pads (Wii U Pro/PS4/One)?
This vs. the faceted D-Pad on the Elite controller is a comparison I'd be interested in when they're both out. That also looks like it's designed to make it easy to hit diagonals as well as the cardinal directions.
alexandros
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That would be a shame, proper documentation would help a great deal. Normal gamers without your degree of knowledge would have no chance of coming up with innovative control setups.
ashecitism
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I liked Krejlooc's idea for Axiom Verge, by having the right pad as a big jump button and having the joystick for weapon switching on the edges.
Could you ask him if he registered on here? Would be nice having him here.
Yup. Again, there are lots of people out there who don't even know about the gyros or triggers or modifers etc. We have been following this from the beginning, so we know about a lot of its features and also know it's going to take time to get used to, but the general consumers will have a different attitude without guidance.
Could you ask him if he registered on here? Would be nice having him here.
Yup. Again, there are lots of people out there who don't even know about the gyros or triggers or modifers etc. We have been following this from the beginning, so we know about a lot of its features and also know it's going to take time to get used to, but the general consumers will have a different attitude without guidance.
RealityCheque
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Cannot wait to see how this handles emulators. Lots of people are saying its great using the touchpad as a dpad so I'm curious to see if it can perform well with snes games.
alexandros
Banned
I will ask him, he knew about the thread so maybe he's a member.
Not entirely sure if this is the right thread but it seems more active than the other one.
I was wondering if anyone have been able to put down an order for this recently?
I'm trying to place an order but it keeps saying insufficient funds or something like that.
Tried through steam and through the web browser, and different payment options.
Thanks!
I was wondering if anyone have been able to put down an order for this recently?
I'm trying to place an order but it keeps saying insufficient funds or something like that.
Tried through steam and through the web browser, and different payment options.
Thanks!
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