Not to mention that if the game uses Steamworks it'll most likely crash when it tries to do something that requires Steam to be running (like oh, say, saving the game...).
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Steam Controller Thread | Comfy Couch Sold Separately
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Does not running from BPM help here?
I mean, if you have a config for a game and Steam Controller is on, Steam will still load BPM overlay + SC config when you run the game from client.
Just without actual BPM running in the background.
Maybe this helps?
So when I got really annoyed with it once when it happened twice in a row (I think it was binding of isaac) I decided to start the game, then power on the Steam Controller - this applies all the settings you originally had, but without BPM. It's actually now something I got in the habit of doing when I know I have bindings that are perfect and I am with a keyboard - and the binding doesn't use touch menus
You are right, my method doesn't help - I just had a Steam crash on me.
Pity, touch menus are amazing for the games that generally are geared towards SteamCon. Weird that there's not more stink about this, or that it still hasn't been fixed by Valve...
Slick Butter
Member
No, I think he wants to literally map xbox buttons in the desktop settings. That's not possible today, we can only map keyboard, mouse and those special actions like volume. Chances are that even UWP games would work with desktop settings.
Huh? they must have changed this in a recent update or something? Or am I mistaken about what he wants, because I created an action set for my desktop config for 360 inputs.
I think it was the DS4 update.
Slick Butter
Member
Well, I haven't used it recently, but it used to work (never tried on a UWP though). But I'll take your word for it.
That's interesting because I don't anything has changed. Maybe depends on the software? I tried the desktop setting with emulators (dolphin and epsxe), and they wouldn't recognize the desktop configuration setting the controller as a xbox 360 controller.
With what software did you tested it?
codswallop
Member
Mine doesn't rattle, although after a year of use, some of the face buttons and shoulder buttons rattle a little bit when shaken.
Slick Butter
Member
The few times i used the 360 binds were only for Dolphin, specifically the Project M netplay version. I stopped using it once I got a DS4, though. I'll try using it again when I get back to my PC to see if it works, but I'd guess not, considering Steam crashes when I go to edit the stick bindings for that action set, and also it no longer lists left stick and right stick for those bindings.
There did use to be a 360 graphic for binding the desktop config, though, but not anymore.
Only very very slightly, and it is coming from the buttons
Dre_G_Writer
Member
I've been playing Dragon Age Origins with the steam controller. I like it better than the mouse and keyboard.
As of the latest beta update, having a PS4 controller plugged in causes Steam to lock up until you kill the process in task manager. The stable build is from before support for the controller was added at all, so my game playing plans for the near future are effectively cancelled for now.
Ah, the ups and downs of relying on Steam features...
Ah, the ups and downs of relying on Steam features...
Correction - relying on Steam Beta features (though Steam is always in beta really).
I've just had a similar steam crash when switching between m&k and 360 layouts to test brigador, but no error and not sure how to reproduce it.
Quite happy with this one. Works quite fine without BPM mode as well, you're losing the touch menu, but most common functions are mapped to buttons and if anything's missing, there's always mouse emulation.
SteamCon + VNs - a match (almost) made in heaven.
(Only thing I'd be happy with is if SteamCon did weight a hundred grams or so less)
Lister
Banned
Anyoen have the Ubisoft verison of Watchdogs 2? Have you gotten the Steam overlay/Stema controller to work with it?
I tried disbaling the Ubi overlay but launching the exe for the game form BPM (I adde dit as a non-Stema game), doesn't work
Damn it. Shoudl ahve bought it on Steam... but a friend had an Nvidia code for cheap.
I tried disbaling the Ubi overlay but launching the exe for the game form BPM (I adde dit as a non-Stema game), doesn't work
Damn it. Shoudl ahve bought it on Steam... but a friend had an Nvidia code for cheap.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Steam Controller never ceases to amaze me: I was playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 on Dolphin and I needed the tilt: just mapped it to some buttons on Dolphin settings, put the left grip as a switch and set the mapped buttons to the alternate mode on BPM. 1 minute, working (and great!) tilt controls.
wolfhunter777
Neo Member
It ok
Some ubi games are really weird and break the controller. When you press the steam button in the controller, does it pop out of the game to bpm? If so, save your config as a personal template then set it as your desktop configuration, this means setting up a menu set so the controller knows when it's in game or not, there's an option about cursors being drawn or something if you're not familiar. This should work, it's what i used to use for overwatch, so i didn't have to keep signing in, but I've actually fixed that bit, so now it's my seige set.Anyoen have the Ubisoft verison of Watchdogs 2? Have you gotten the Steam overlay/Stema controller to work with it?
I tried disbaling the Ubi overlay but launching the exe for the game form BPM (I adde dit as a non-Stema game), doesn't work
Damn it. Shoudl ahve bought it on Steam... but a friend had an Nvidia code for cheap.
Yeah I'm considering getting a refund because the last crashes I had during ranked matches in Overwatch were not fun AT ALL.
And that's not the only issues I get.
Lister
Banned
Yep, that's exactly the behavior I was experiencing, stema button kicked me out and into bpm.
I'll give this a shot tonight, thanks!
I can't do third person actions game swith a right analog stick anymore, feels like I've got a thumb strapped behind my back!
Start the game with Big Picture Mode and Steam Controller disabled.
Turn on Steam Controller.
Poof, no guide button.
So even if I go back to the desktop after doing what you said, pushing the guide button won't open Big Pic or the Steam Client? That's what I am trying to achieve (no guide button functionality outside of Steam).
Really cool that instead of fixing this they just removed the option completely
No more crashes for me since I tried this. Thanks !
Sleeping Lesson
Member
I played the campaign with the controller. I used standard Xbox inputs with mouse look, and gyro mouse look on right pad touch. A button on right paddle, X on left.
Tried to use it in multiplayer, but it was quickly evident that it's just untenable. Had to switch to KBaM.
Yeah it's just for the campaign. Thanks for the help!
PurpleMoustache
Member
Home from college for a month and a half, been meaning to play Stardew Valley since I picked it up in the Humble Monthy (and since IdleMaster already "played" 5 hours to get trading cards).
Is it a game worth playing with steam controller? I get the sense there's a lot of keyboard and mouse like actions in it (using mouse to water, typing in things a lot), but there's also gamepad/keyboard switching in the game by default...
Is it a game worth playing with steam controller? I get the sense there's a lot of keyboard and mouse like actions in it (using mouse to water, typing in things a lot), but there's also gamepad/keyboard switching in the game by default...
Nabs
Member
I love it with a Steam Controller. My config is mostly keyboard/mouse, but I use a regular joystick move so I can get rumble while doing things like fishing. I have mouse clicks on the triggers and scrollwheel on the bumpers or grips.
No issues so far, but won't know for sure without more play time. Only spent about 4hrs with it.
I have been using it for pretty much every game that needs it, usually without any issue. For shovel knight at the moment, since I am playing the plague knight update, I'm using one of the top bindings called "Plague of Arcana" by Killer Chaos. In the options for the game though, you have to turn on quick switching, so that the right pad can be a touch menu for all the arcana items via number keys.
For the dpad, I use what is already in the binding (and default usuall & from the devs) which is radial with overlap, with left pad having to be pressed to work. Dead zone has been reduced from the default notch by several notches (between the z and o of the deadzone word).
A tip for dpad play - I used to hate it till I realised my thumb activates the dpad lower than I expect (whether that is because my thumb is fat or that its just the way it should be), so rather than following the dpad outline, I shift my thumb up position up to the top line of that dpad outline, which then makes the fleshy part of my thumb contact the correct centre of the pad. I can play pretty much all dpad games flawlessly this way - other than fighting games where I now play with activation on touch, and a few games where I use crossgate dpad
I refuse to set up a desktop configuration. That's a terrible workaround that should never have to be done, and I will not do it out of principle.
It's only the gamepad controls that are broke anyhow, so I simply just made my own pure KB/M configuration instead of using a gamepad config. Works great now.
Just had a client crash on me, so nope, still not fixed. ;_;
masterkajo
Member
Maybe someone knows an easier solution to my problem. Hope you can help me. I am pretty new to playing with the Steam controller. I am playing through dragon age inquisition (not a very great game imo) but the only way to get it to work is to add origin as a non steam game and launch origin through bpm (setting the dragon age inputs for the origin exe in bpm) and then start dragon age inquisition from origin (using mouse input) which was started using bpm.
When I add Dragon age directly to steam it won't work to detect the steam controller as an xinput device but rather a keyboard and mouse and the steam overlay doesn't change that.
I would love to play Mass Effect Andromeda with the steam controller when it releases but this is such a complicated way to do so (and requires mouse Input to launch the game from the launched origin so I can't start it from the comfy couch.)
Any ideas?
When I add Dragon age directly to steam it won't work to detect the steam controller as an xinput device but rather a keyboard and mouse and the steam overlay doesn't change that.
I would love to play Mass Effect Andromeda with the steam controller when it releases but this is such a complicated way to do so (and requires mouse Input to launch the game from the launched origin so I can't start it from the comfy couch.)
Any ideas?
masterkajo
Member
I will try that. Thanks for the quick Reply.
Edit: Thanks it worked. I had to have origin closed and Overlay disabled before launching the game lke you said. Who knew that this could be so finicky. Thanks for the help. Now I can at least start it from the couch. Origin doesn't close itself after the game thought which means I have to either restart the system (which shuts origin down) or use a mouse (or second action set on the controller as a mouse) to close origin. But that is not a huge problem.
It sucks because Origin used to have an option to close itself when you quit a game but they removed it with the new version of the app.
You could get the old app back by running it in Windows XP compatibility mode, but then they put out an update that brings up two separate prompts every time you launch the old client like that now.
Uplay has similar problems. It requests admin access to run for some stupid reason, so you have a UAC prompt to deal with every time you try to start a Uplay game - several, actually.
If you're running Steam with a user account, and Uplay runs as admin, it can't hook into the game due to the elevated permissions.
On top of that, Uplay now displays an error message every time you try to launch a game with its own overlay disabled.
I wish they were just game management tools like GOG Galaxy.
Galaxy makes it much easier to download and manage your GOG purchases, but it is not required to run the games at all.
I was never a "steam only" person, but the Origin and Uplay clients have just continued to get worse over time as they keep getting in the way of actually playing the games.
It's just made even worse when you are trying to play those games with a Steam Controller.
Since they have only continued to make things worse, I think I'm just going to stop buying games on Origin and Uplay until they fix these things.
I tried playing the free weekend of The Division and even without trying to get a Steam Controller working, it seems like Uplay is making it as difficult as possible to just play a game. I don't need that.
Lister
Banned
Some quick recommendaitons that had me enjoying the game a lot more:
1. Install the quicker loot mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/788/?
This changes the game drastically for suhc a simple mod. Begin able ot walk past resources and collect them takes away literal HOURS of tedium per area (those collecting animations are long).
2. Install the more loot mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/1036/?
Also a big change to the game, but there are several flavors there to choose from. I personally just wanted to have a little more crafting materials drop. The standard game is SUPER stingy and asks for a lto of grinding for those.
3. Instlal the more banter mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/1454/?
Great little mod. Sometimes in vanilla it feels like everyone is very quite. This has them engage in conversation roughly every 10-15 minutes or so.
4. Map the jump and search functions to the pads. You use them so much and I personally hate commonly used funcitons tied ot puching in the analog stick.
Another mod you might want to consider is the oen that expands the search radius.
FFS. Valve should help out the desktop side of things.
I was making a binding set on the desktop using mouse and keyboard since I was at the desk while playing - was at the point of saving the binding set, and my Steam Controller times out and shutsdown....... but that shutsdown all the Steam Controller desktop tools, closing the configuration tool and throwing out all the work I'd just done. There is no way to recover it.
Won't be using the desktop to make anything anymore with the Steam Controller.
I was making a binding set on the desktop using mouse and keyboard since I was at the desk while playing - was at the point of saving the binding set, and my Steam Controller times out and shutsdown....... but that shutsdown all the Steam Controller desktop tools, closing the configuration tool and throwing out all the work I'd just done. There is no way to recover it.
Won't be using the desktop to make anything anymore with the Steam Controller.