I've tried Borderlands 2, Skyrim, H1Z1, and a few others, all were far more precise than the 360 controller. If it's not feeling more precise, it's the settings.
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I've tried Borderlands 2, Skyrim, H1Z1, and a few others, all were far more precise than the 360 controller. If it's not feeling more precise, it's the settings.
TriniTrin
war of titties grampa
Well i love the controller with shooters! I feel like I have more control and hit things better than on a regular controller. Still not as accurate as a mouse but the movements feel so much better to me on controller than on keyboard and the trackpad is great! Still messing and getting used to it though, but being able to program the buttons has me truly excited for the possibilities!
You may be experiencing a bug that requires turning the controller off and on again.
Some observations for anyone else who is making and publishing their bindings:
- Most modern multiplatform 3rd/1st-person games (e.g. MGS, Dark Souls, etc) are improved with adjustments to the vertical sensitivity and friction on the right trackpad (in mouse/trackball mode). These games were already designed with very limited vertical looking/aiming to account for analog sticks being poor for this. If you increase the vertical friction and reduce the vertical sensitivity, players will still have the fast turnspeeds and accuracy of the trackpad without unnecessarily pointing the camera at the floor/ceiling. Likewise, there's a setting (I'm pretty sure it's called Rotation) that you can fine-tune to ensure left-right swipes actually go horizontally and not slightly diagonally. A good way to tune this is to go somewhere like Mother Base in MGSV, aim at the horizon, and swipe left to right. If you notice excessive diagonal motion, press the Steam button, go into the controller config, and adjust the Rotation meter a few notches, and try again until your aim when swiping left to right is pretty much in line with the horizon. You can have a look at my bindings for MGSV (by username SteffK, named "A Binding to Surpass Metal Gear") and check out the advanced settings for the right trackpad to get an idea.
-Use the dual-stage triggers wherever possible, they are fantastic! I was wary about the controller differentiating between light/heavy presses on the triggers but it's incredibly reliable by default, without even going in and manually adjusting the trigger points. Going to try a Dark Souls setup where attack/strong attack and guard/parry are on different stages of the triggers, freeing up the bumpers and grips for face button functions like rolling, item use, two-handing, etc. This effectively gives you a suite of 10 buttons accessible without the player's thumbs leaving the trackpad/stick. That is equivalent to the button diamond and all the triggers/bumpers/stick clicks from the standard console controllers.
Using the right trackpad as a giant A button feels great. Tried it in NiGHTS and Jet Set Radio. On that note, the trackpad works fantastically for the graffiti swiping mechanic in JSR as well.
Would really, really like native support for this from major devs but I imagine that's coming later in the early bird period leading up to the hard launch. Ideally a title like MGSV would have multiple configurations like Portal 2 for the main menu, iDroid, gameplay etc, as well as Steam Controller specific button icons.
- Most modern multiplatform 3rd/1st-person games (e.g. MGS, Dark Souls, etc) are improved with adjustments to the vertical sensitivity and friction on the right trackpad (in mouse/trackball mode). These games were already designed with very limited vertical looking/aiming to account for analog sticks being poor for this. If you increase the vertical friction and reduce the vertical sensitivity, players will still have the fast turnspeeds and accuracy of the trackpad without unnecessarily pointing the camera at the floor/ceiling. Likewise, there's a setting (I'm pretty sure it's called Rotation) that you can fine-tune to ensure left-right swipes actually go horizontally and not slightly diagonally. A good way to tune this is to go somewhere like Mother Base in MGSV, aim at the horizon, and swipe left to right. If you notice excessive diagonal motion, press the Steam button, go into the controller config, and adjust the Rotation meter a few notches, and try again until your aim when swiping left to right is pretty much in line with the horizon. You can have a look at my bindings for MGSV (by username SteffK, named "A Binding to Surpass Metal Gear") and check out the advanced settings for the right trackpad to get an idea.
-Use the dual-stage triggers wherever possible, they are fantastic! I was wary about the controller differentiating between light/heavy presses on the triggers but it's incredibly reliable by default, without even going in and manually adjusting the trigger points. Going to try a Dark Souls setup where attack/strong attack and guard/parry are on different stages of the triggers, freeing up the bumpers and grips for face button functions like rolling, item use, two-handing, etc. This effectively gives you a suite of 10 buttons accessible without the player's thumbs leaving the trackpad/stick. That is equivalent to the button diamond and all the triggers/bumpers/stick clicks from the standard console controllers.
Using the right trackpad as a giant A button feels great. Tried it in NiGHTS and Jet Set Radio. On that note, the trackpad works fantastically for the graffiti swiping mechanic in JSR as well.
Would really, really like native support for this from major devs but I imagine that's coming later in the early bird period leading up to the hard launch. Ideally a title like MGSV would have multiple configurations like Portal 2 for the main menu, iDroid, gameplay etc, as well as Steam Controller specific button icons.
charlequin
Banned
At the moment, no, no, and no, respectively.
These are all things I'd like to see become a yes
Tried it with Prey and it worked really well. I posted my tweaks for the trackball emulation above. Mostly just Rotation higher at 75%, Friction at Low and Acceleration Off.
I got my pad, Quick question.
the outer edge of the track pads don't seem to work, i went in to the support page, and it doesn't detect movement until i move my thumbs closer.
Is it just me, and i'm misunderstanding the sensitivity of the track pads.
Here's a pic of the outer edge of detection.
the outer edge of the track pads don't seem to work, i went in to the support page, and it doesn't detect movement until i move my thumbs closer.
Is it just me, and i'm misunderstanding the sensitivity of the track pads.
Here's a pic of the outer edge of detection.
I don't think they are due to the controller. These are games I haven't tried on my TV before, so I hadn't run into these issues until now.
I adjusted a few settings and enabled gyro controls in Borderlands and holy shit, it is awesome now. Being able to tweak for precise aim by physically moving the controller is just perfect. I only wish I could assign motion activation to a trigger. I'd love to have zoom on my left paddle, but with gyro on it's stuck as the motion enable button.
charlequin
Banned
Yes, I think this controller has the potential to be an all-encompassing and fully functional interface device for Windows outside of games, but it needs some upgrades to make that possible.
I got my pad, Quick question.
the outer edge of the track pads don't seem to work, i went in to the support page, and it doesn't detect movement until i move my thumbs closer.
Is it just me, and i'm misunderstanding the sensitivity of the track pads.
Here's a pic of the outer edge of detection.
These are my two outer rings. I didn't even think there was anything wrong with it... I thought there were also outer ring click points, but the controller only recognizes the one click.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Yep. Fortunately, the hardware is fantastic and the deficiencies can be improved with software updates.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I sorta misspoke about DOOM 3. I just played more today and it's tough with precision. I can aim 110% better with another stick. It's literally like putting a GoPro on a character while they're playing the game. I can't move straight up or straight down with the camera.
I'm getting better at it though. At its best the controller can be very comfortable. I have not tried it on anything else.
I can dodge pretty good in DOOM 3 and I can have some nice shootouts with a regular controller.
Yesterday I must have been lucky or on point. Today Id walk in a room with two guys with shotguns and normally I could take them out in seconds. With the new controller I am finding cover because my first blast isn't aimed properly. I have to move the blast while I'm firing. Normally I'd be dead point on both movement and blasting.
It's going to take some time. I just tried it with the Link. They're like two feet away from one another. It works just fine, but for like a minute I had some lag.
The host screen and the TV are difficult to explain, but oh well... Gotta try more things out
I'm getting better at it though. At its best the controller can be very comfortable. I have not tried it on anything else.
I can dodge pretty good in DOOM 3 and I can have some nice shootouts with a regular controller.
Yesterday I must have been lucky or on point. Today Id walk in a room with two guys with shotguns and normally I could take them out in seconds. With the new controller I am finding cover because my first blast isn't aimed properly. I have to move the blast while I'm firing. Normally I'd be dead point on both movement and blasting.
It's going to take some time. I just tried it with the Link. They're like two feet away from one another. It works just fine, but for like a minute I had some lag.
The host screen and the TV are difficult to explain, but oh well... Gotta try more things out
Jon Armdog
Member
I just added the WoW-64.exe to Steam as a shortcut. You have to log in every time though since it doesn't launch through Battle.net but as I play in front of my m/kb anyway it wasn't a big deal
That's good to know, thank you
Well the right trackpad is a bit of a bad example, since I was trying to printscreen and show the circles at the same time. Mine definitely don't hit the edge though...
Starchasing
Member
Have you guys tried it with platform games? Does it a good job?
RealityCheque
Banned
And suddenly ive had my hallelujah moment.
OK I'm not a PC player by origin so mapping from a keyboard feels very hard for me. I prefer abxy inputs (particularly when it comes to onscreen prompts).
So for games that had gamepads as their intended mapping. The steam controller maps the right stick very poorly by default, its slow and feels all wrong. So for these sorts of games, set your config to gamepad then go to the right touchpad and up the stick response curve to "aggressive" and then cnange the haptics intensity to high. You now have an ultra responsive right analog stick with familiar onscreen prompts. Used it on tomb raider and black flag so far to perfection.
Thanks to Nzyme for this. Fucking amazing.
OK I'm not a PC player by origin so mapping from a keyboard feels very hard for me. I prefer abxy inputs (particularly when it comes to onscreen prompts).
So for games that had gamepads as their intended mapping. The steam controller maps the right stick very poorly by default, its slow and feels all wrong. So for these sorts of games, set your config to gamepad then go to the right touchpad and up the stick response curve to "aggressive" and then cnange the haptics intensity to high. You now have an ultra responsive right analog stick with familiar onscreen prompts. Used it on tomb raider and black flag so far to perfection.
Thanks to Nzyme for this. Fucking amazing.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I'm wondering this as well.
Feel exactly the same. I think the goal of this controller is to use it with games that don't support the keyboard like a civilization type game or something along those lines.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
OP you should put a link for where to buy it and also mention that it is available in store at gamestop. For the people that haven't been following the news.
Steam Controller Order Page
Gamestop link
Steam Controller Order Page
Gamestop link
charlequin
Banned
I'll give it a few more shots, but my first impression was that the touchpad is unusable as a D-pad replacement.
RealityCheque
Banned
Played with meat boy to good effect, but I forced myself to use the left haptic as I usually use analogs for platformers these days (I'm weird, I know) and also mapped it in dolphin for super Mario Bros wii. It was great, I simply forgot it was in my hands and played as though it was a wiimote.
I rate it, but as a caveat, I'm not a platformer expert. I just love Mario!
King Gilga
Member
LostMyNarbles
Member
Wish I didn't cancel my preorder for one of these. At the time I was thinking I didn't need another controller and I could wait until November and now I'm kicking myself.
RealityCheque
Banned
It's being worked on. So far ive only had trouble with uplay but mapped to gamepad and went from there. Havent played any EA games yet though.
Booting dead space 2 as we speak.
Booting dead space 2 as we speak.
I got my pad, Quick question.
the outer edge of the track pads don't seem to work, i went in to the support page, and it doesn't detect movement until i move my thumbs closer.
Is it just me, and i'm misunderstanding the sensitivity of the track pads.
Here's a pic of the outer edge of detection.
These are my two outer rings. I didn't even think there was anything wrong with it... I thought there were also outer ring click points, but the controller only recognizes the one click.
Mine do this, but I have to be right on the very edge:
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Argh! One of my local GameStop locations says they have extra controllers on hand, but that Valve said they can only sell them to people who preordered and that the extras have to be held until Nov. The fuck??
flaxknuckles
Member
Weird. Mine go all the way to the edge where like a bit of the green circle is off the TouchPad. I wonder which of us has the faulty controller.Mine do this, but I have to be right on the very edge:
BannedEpisode
Member
Steamlink lag is completely unplayable.
I have 40 mb/s internet.
I have 40 mb/s internet.
Nabs
Member
It's not your internet, it's your local network and router quality.
JayWood2010
Member
Hardware sensitivity?
Do you think right grip as attack and right touchpad click as jump (or visa-versa) in 2D games could work well? It sounds like the face buttons aren't the best and are a bit out of the way to be comfortable for primary inputs. So I'm wondering if the grips and touchpad clicks have a low enough actuation force to be primary action buttons without fatiguing your hand. Especially stuff like rapid firing in a shmup or Mega Man game.
RealityCheque
Banned
Dead space 2 works perfectly. I'm assuming fifa is an origin game?
It is, but havent been able to make it work with anything outside steam unfortunately, and the amount of games that support steam overlay while being a non-steam game is really low.
Quote
Member
The touch pad clicks require too much force in my opinion.
RealityCheque
Banned
I had the same trouble initially. I had success im mapping the controller as a standard gamepad then making alterations from there (aggressive response curve + high haptics is a first step in everything now for me). All my non - steam games have accepted this so far.
I've run into a pretty major issue.
Without realising it till now it turns out my dpad deadzone is not in the centre as it should be. It is in fact up and to the right, where the indentations indicate is the start of the diagnoral up right area.
Messing with this area makes the dpad perfect in how it functions
So my questions are, is this only on my controller and if so how can I fix it. Might have to email Valve. I've tried multiple games now to be sure.
Without realising it till now it turns out my dpad deadzone is not in the centre as it should be. It is in fact up and to the right, where the indentations indicate is the start of the diagnoral up right area.
Messing with this area makes the dpad perfect in how it functions
So my questions are, is this only on my controller and if so how can I fix it. Might have to email Valve. I've tried multiple games now to be sure.