Jawmuncher
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i wish we could vote old games every year.
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rainking187
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How many scenes are there with them playing games like that? I noticed the girl on the right has a different outfit in the video then she does in the gif.
I'd vote for Rocket League if I had it. Just sayin'
Mostly because I haven't really played any games that were released this year. Other than Grow Home which is great.
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Se7enSword
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Hate is a strong word, i just didn't enjoyed it.
The hitfeedback is meh
It's rather slow but not any more strategic than others
It's imbalanced (Quen is OP, i once had a sword that i could 100% stunlock all non stunresistent enemys with, even some bosses)
It offers no variety, you have a sword, your signs, a crossbow and bombs and that was it. Even other weapons that you can pick up, like axes or clubs play the same as your swords including the same moveset.
And nigh all nonboss encounters play out the same. Open enemys defense with a sign --> attack --> roll out --> repeat or if that's to hard for one: Quen --> Buttonmash --> Quen
The ammount of enemys that require a different way of approach like the ghosts is very low.
Jawmuncher
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I was being serious no one in here bought it. How are they gonna vote for it?
Se7enSword
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Oh. Couldn't tell if you were bullying or not. 😒
And i'm pretty sure at least 5 people have. >_>
It's okay, your opinion doesn't matter.
ashecitism
Member
The Vive delay and the CS patch was the icing on the cake for Valve's year. Surely next year it'll only get better. (I'm sure people said this last year too)
Glad/sad to learn that Souls fans literally jumping into every TW3 thread to compare the combat mechanics between the games on GAF is literally worse than I thought it actually was.
freshVeggie
Member
Some very creepy stuff is going to be made.
But tbh they nailed the anime visuals. Really good looking.
Yes.
spindoctor
Member
I'm not surprised anymore. They've gone from being fans of the series straight to obnoxious cult, skipping right over the fanboy phase (which would still be somewhat tolerable). On par with the Naughty Dog worshippers at this point.
freshVeggie
Member
Played a lot Witcher 1 and a bit Witcher 2. Would never compare it with Souls. They are vastly different in their goals and ambitions. Both are good.
No clue why everything has to be either "GOAT, all over my face!!!1!" or "this is SHIT; absolute GARBAGE!!!1!". Why are people thinking so binary, everything has to be white or black. Sheesh people, get a grip.
No clue why everything has to be either "GOAT, all over my face!!!1!" or "this is SHIT; absolute GARBAGE!!!1!". Why are people thinking so binary, everything has to be white or black. Sheesh people, get a grip.
TheLetdown
Member
I might force myself to return to Life is Strange. I put it down a decent way through Episode 1 and just never went back.
It's not even the hype or that it might pick up later. It's that stilted dialogue from a game people are praising for its writing. Yikes.
It's not even the hype or that it might pick up later. It's that stilted dialogue from a game people are praising for its writing. Yikes.
This is nice, though the geo-blocking stuff is not really as you said. From what I understood it'll be more akin to what Steam offers now: your account is bound to a specific region, and you will be able to access that stuff from wherever you are.
It's not often that I get annoyed by a fanbase, as more often than not it's simply a matter of ignoring them. But with the Souls games I'm willing to make an exception: I can't stand the "fanatical fans". They only help to make me dislike the game even more. Which is a shame, because the game isn't bad, but damn if it's not tiresome to see some people's reactions to criticism of those games, or their disdain for anything not Souls-related.
To me, Dark Souls fans are the Dark Souls of terrible fanbases
If only. Would be too good to be true but I get the DSIII & U4 review threads are going to be spectacular for those of us less fanatical.
Ha! That's unintentionally a very usable put down.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
The witcher and souls games can't be any more different.
Makes we want to open a souls thread whining about lack of dialogue choices and branching narrative paths.
But of course I can't open threads so that's all just wasted energy coming from me.
Makes we want to open a souls thread whining about lack of dialogue choices and branching narrative paths.
But of course I can't open threads so that's all just wasted energy coming from me.
drotahorror
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Anyone? Maybe I'm asking in wrong thread, is there another steam thread? (not trying to be smart)
Nice, I'm wondering if SE will offer me some money back for their broken FFV port, of FFIVAY port.
#NotAllSoulsFans
I love Souls. Witcher can do its own thing and that's fine and obviously lots of people love it so it must be doing something right.
I understand finding the attitude from some of it's fans annoying though. I feel the same about elements of the Nintendo fanbase who act like only Nintendo knows how to make good games.
I love Souls. Witcher can do its own thing and that's fine and obviously lots of people love it so it must be doing something right.
I understand finding the attitude from some of it's fans annoying though. I feel the same about elements of the Nintendo fanbase who act like only Nintendo knows how to make good games.
DS has less fanatical fans for the most part, it doesn't have the deadly combo of beign both exclusive and having souls combat.
Also Naughty dog fans are a real cult, I almost instantly put people with naughty dog avatars on my ignore list (not really but if they say something dumb which they almost always do then...)
Why people keep comparing Witcher 3 and DS games?
They are TOTALLY different games. One is a plot-focused rpg, another is a hard-core game much similar to rogue-like titles than common rpgs.
It makes no sense, if you want a challenge in W3 just use Death March, it will provide a good enough difficulty setting. If you want to die with every common thug you encounter, just keep playing DS.
W3 combat system is ok, not too deep, not too easy, it actually requires strategi depending on the difficulty you are playing on.
It doesn't "sucks" at all, I don't understand why people keep complaining about this.
Because one game is studied to be a hard-core game in which even a common enemy can kill you easily if you don't pay attention, the other game is striclty focused on the freedom given to the player, he actually role-playes Geralt, the player acts as a witcher, the game is focused on this providing a deep enough story and a very good combat system matching perfectly with the other gameplay elements.
A witcher game in which you can die with every common mob you meed would be a nightmare, expecially if you want enjoy the plot but you can't because a super-uber-mega boss one-shots you for the third time. If someone wants to experiment this, just play W2 with insta-death option on.
They are TOTALLY different games. One is a plot-focused rpg, another is a hard-core game much similar to rogue-like titles than common rpgs.
It makes no sense, if you want a challenge in W3 just use Death March, it will provide a good enough difficulty setting. If you want to die with every common thug you encounter, just keep playing DS.
W3 combat system is ok, not too deep, not too easy, it actually requires strategi depending on the difficulty you are playing on.
It doesn't "sucks" at all, I don't understand why people keep complaining about this.
Because one game is studied to be a hard-core game in which even a common enemy can kill you easily if you don't pay attention, the other game is striclty focused on the freedom given to the player, he actually role-playes Geralt, the player acts as a witcher, the game is focused on this providing a deep enough story and a very good combat system matching perfectly with the other gameplay elements.
A witcher game in which you can die with every common mob you meed would be a nightmare, expecially if you want enjoy the plot but you can't because a super-uber-mega boss one-shots you for the third time. If someone wants to experiment this, just play W2 with insta-death option on.
I don't see it. Both have a very high focus on combat, so why can't they be compaired?
Having dialogue options and Gwent isn't an excuse for your combat if you force so much of it down the players thorat.
That W3 is plot focused isn't an excuse if you have so much combat content in your games. If you want to have your player fighting enemys ~40% of the total gametime, you better make that fun and worthwhile.
The combat isn't perfect but it's pretty close to the combat described in the books.
Dark souls combat wouldn't be lore friendly at all.
Also I had fun with the witcher combat
It's like a better more tactical batman combat.
Jawmuncher
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Witcher 3 wishes it was as good as Gears of War. Pretty similar games after all.
thesaucetastic
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That's your best bet, and searching for "free weekend". That is, if someone didn't mention it in the thread already.
I want to vote for Valkyria Chronicles.
I'm voting for viva piñata. fuck the police or something.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
But you don't even have to engage the combat most of the time in tw3 as xp isn't tied to enemies but to quest milestones.
It might just be that folks can't contain themselves and engage in it more than they need to.
Regardless, they're the same type of rpg like how final fantasy 6 and link to the past are the same. As in, not at all.
It might just be that folks can't contain themselves and engage in it more than they need to.
Regardless, they're the same type of rpg like how final fantasy 6 and link to the past are the same. As in, not at all.
Kurt Russell
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The thing is that the combat in TW3 is actually fun and worthwhile. Not every game needs Souls combat to be fun.
spindoctor
Member
The dialogue is a bit jarring in the first episode. It's what a group of developers in France thought American teenagers will talk like. The cringe factor gets toned down in subsequent episodes. It never gets completely 'fixed' but the praise the writing gets is for the narrative and the path that the overall story takes. Not specifically the dialogues.
Ha, this is funny coming from you, a huge fan of Dino Crisis, a game so boring it can't even match the humor of Monkey Island 2 or the sense of speed of Need for Speed 4.
Yours is the Dark Souls of bad comparisons, while mine is the Kirby's Epic Yarn: cute and fluffy and huggable and colorful.
TheLetdown
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I think a large contributor to the Witcher / Souls combat discussion is how they are both very measured combat systems, as opposed to the hack n slash Dynasty Warriors style that seemed to be the only direction games were going for a good while. They both have high lethality (assuming you play Witcher on a respectable difficulty) and punish lethargic players.
Having really enjoyed both Witcher 3 and Bloodborne, a melding of the two would be my dream game. I think there could be a decent dialogue on each game's approaches. It's so disappointing that it only ever boils down to Us vs. Them.
Now this, I agree with. Couldn't have said it better myself.
EDIT:
That's reassuring. I was ready to pull out one of those daily GAF threads that starts "Am I the only one who..."
Dialogue tends to be a big thing for me, but if I can suffer Fallout 4 for the greater atmosphere, I owe it to SteamGAF to try the same for LiS, if only for voting purposes. And regardless of a discount or not, I'm getting Undertale this winter sale.
Any New Yawkers in here? Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges are on the Lower East Side right? You know... for research.
Because there can only be one!
Seriously that's half the ills of most gaming communities summed up right there. Everything is a bloody competition and instead of appreciating things for what they are or embrace the differences between titles everything has to be ranked, ordered, graded with a clear victor in sight. And generally most of these lunatics think their victor is better than everything else in every possible way. To be fair that's tribalism in a nutshell as that also applies to the more 'enthused' sports fan, 'fervent' political affiliation and one topic I'm not even going to touch on.
Because there can only be one!
Seriously that's half the ills of most gaming communities summed up right there. Everything is a bloody competition and instead of appreciating things for what they are or embrace the differences between titles everything has to be ranked, ordered, graded with a clear victor in sight. And generally most of these lunatics think their victor is better than everything else in every possible way. To be fair that's tribalism in a nutshell as that also applies to the more 'enthused' sports fan, 'fervent' political affiliation and one topic I'm not even going to touch on.
Again, W3 is not a combat-focused game, I'm pointing this. The game is NOT studied to be hard-core. Every rpg usually is not only combat, so why do I need to want a game in which pretty much all enemies can kill me in two shots? Death March is the "right" difficulty, I played W3 on this, bloody hard on the beginning, later it provides enough challenge turning to be much easier.
Man, you can complete Planescape just by killing a bunch of dudes, solving a lot of situation just by doing specific actions or talking the right way.
DS and Witcher are a VERY different kind of game, imho they are not comparable. Man, DS itself is marked as RPG, but I think it should be labeled as its own genre.
The combat isn't perfect but it's pretty close to the combat described in the books.
Dark souls combat wouldn't be lore friendly at all.
Also I had fun with the witcher combat
It's like a better more tactical batman combat.
I don't even try to argue wether or not DS is better (Tho i do admittedly think this way), but i honestly don't see a reason why they absolutely can't be compaired. Melee Combat system is Melee combat system afterall, W3, DS, Batman, Assassins Creed, Ultima Underworld, all combat systems serve the same purpose for the most part, even if they work differently.
Unless you were just running past everything, i can't see where you are coming from.
This is a nonsensical compairson, DS and W3 are still part of the same genre and share a lot of mechanic in the combat, unless you're talking about the games in their entirety, but we're solely talking about the combat.
But it is combat focused. Near half the time you're just fighting. And like i said, even if that isn't the focus of the game, it's part of it and as auch should be the best it possibly can. "Good enough" doesn't exist for me, when i'm trying to entertain myself.
Jawmuncher
Member
The next Dino Crisis will be written by Double Fine and involve raptor chases just like in Jurassic World to handle both of these complaints.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
I mean I was just making one nonsensical comparison to prove how nonsensical another comparison is. That was kind of the point.
I don't find the combat in tw3 to be a chore. I'm always using potions, oils, I'm finding new ways to use signs against enemies, throwing bombs, chopping limbs off of drowners and stuff.
If you want to fairly compare the witcher's combat it would be to do so against other western RPGs with similar systems in place, like dragon age and skyrim. And if you compare it to them, you'll find that it's pretty much the most enjoyable of the lot.
I don't find the combat in tw3 to be a chore. I'm always using potions, oils, I'm finding new ways to use signs against enemies, throwing bombs, chopping limbs off of drowners and stuff.
If you want to fairly compare the witcher's combat it would be to do so against other western RPGs with similar systems in place, like dragon age and skyrim. And if you compare it to them, you'll find that it's pretty much the most enjoyable of the lot.
2-3 ?
Just watch the entire Carnival Phantasm.
It's pretty hit or miss with each gag but overall it's worth it.
Atraveller
Banned
Fun is not the word I would use to describe Souls combat, "satisfying" or "relieved" after beating something, I occasionally laugh when I gangbanged the poor fellows as bellbro, other than that, not fun.
It will also have budget problems.
Which will make them release it on steam early access where almost no one will buy it.
They won't have money to finish the game so they just call a normal patch for v1.0 and move forward to crowdfunding their next game.
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Also I might seem like a giant witcher fanboy and just hating on souls, but I love souls it's just the fanbase is one of the most annoying ones I've had the pleasure to deal with.
EDIT: Actually I should get back to DS2, I've only gotten about halfway into the first DLC.
EDIT: Actually I should get back to DS2, I've only gotten about halfway into the first DLC.
Jawmuncher
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At least the Bloodborne Creator is cool.
Witcher 3 combat is good. Not great, not bad, just good.
For those who need more than that, there's an upgraded version of the combat. The definitive Witcher 3 experience without any doubt.
For those who need more than that, there's an upgraded version of the combat. The definitive Witcher 3 experience without any doubt.
freshVeggie
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The combat change from Witcher 1 to Witcher 2 was great. Can only imagine how much improved combat from Witcher 2 is in Witcher 3.
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