Steam Frame, Steam controller and Steam Machine Revealed

For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would want to be tied to one platform only. Whether that's steam, playstation, Xbox, or anyone else.
 
I think people are going to be shocked by the price.

The Steam Deck wasn't exactly cheap, and the BOM for this thing are way higher. Especially coming into a year where material prices are rising due to the AI bubble.

Sure, they could heavily subsidize it to try and keep it in line with market expectations, but again I'm not sure what volumes they are going to expect. Also especially because what they are offering is not entirely the same as the console model as its lacking general pay-for-access monetization I don't see it being viable.

Meaning that we have to set expectations based on pricings for the Mini PC market, and in that context its way above the low-end spec... and I think pricing.
 
how are smaller hands supposed to hold it?

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I think people are going to be shocked by the price.

The Steam Deck wasn't exactly cheap, and the BOM for this thing are way higher. Especially coming into a year where material prices are rising due to the AI bubble.

Sure, they could heavily subsidize it to try and keep it in line with market expectations, but again I'm not sure what volumes they are going to expect. Also especially because what they are offering is not entirely the same as the console model as its lacking general pay-for-access monetization I don't see it being viable.

Meaning that we have to set expectations based on pricings for the Mini PC market, and in that context its way above the low-end spec... and I think pricing.
Steam Deck was famously shockingly cheaper than anyone had expected. At $400, it was only $50 more than the Switch, which it was a whole generation ahead of.

Expect this to be competitively priced.
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would want to be tied to one platform only. Whether that's steam, playstation, Xbox, or anyone else.

Regional Store for my 3rd World Country
Backwards Compatibility
Trainers/Mods
Free Online
Free Game Keys all the time
Keystores/Resellers
Full on Steam Service
PS/Xbox games on Steam
Play PC games on Cloud

Why the hell would I choose PSN or Xbox?
 
I think people are going to be shocked by the price.

The Steam Deck wasn't exactly cheap, and the BOM for this thing are way higher. Especially coming into a year where material prices are rising due to the AI bubble.

Sure, they could heavily subsidize it to try and keep it in line with market expectations, but again I'm not sure what volumes they are going to expect. Also especially because what they are offering is not entirely the same as the console model as its lacking general pay-for-access monetization I don't see it being viable.

Meaning that we have to set expectations based on pricings for the Mini PC market, and in that context its way above the low-end spec... and I think pricing.
Isn't the Steam Deck the cheapest handheld PC on the market?
 
HDMI 2.0 ONLY WTF

This mean you can't do 4k 120 HDR , only 4k 60 HDR and on top of that it's going to be 8bit instead of 10bit so colors will look like crap , this machine is a downgrade not an upgrade
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would want to be tied to one platform only. Whether that's steam, playstation, Xbox, or anyone else.
Steam as an ecosystem costs nothing to get into (versus hundreds of dollars for Xbox, PlayStation, or Nintendo), while having the largest library and the most and the best and most consumer friendly features. It is basically the default for games.
 
Bro you bought a $15 Amazon-branded portable dock and expected it to work for longer than two weeks?
I had a similar one with the Switch 1 and it worked the whole time i had it. It's the principal of Nintendo purposely blocking it when they don't even offer a similar product (a small pocket size dock). Sick of Nintendont's ways that's all...
 
Apparently, the console will be HDMI 2.0 only. that sucks as I was hoping that Valve had found a way to work through the HDMI 2.1 issue from AMD cards.
 
They should have gone high ends specs. This will not handle UE5 games well at all. BW is too low. More like 1080P machine. CPU is the best part of this machine and I guess good for older PC games.
 
Awww man, they used the design I wanted for the next Magnus Xbox, a Cube/Tesseract.

That is the perfect design of you really think about it.

And the Steam store pages for the hardware finally look professional, similar to Apple pages.

Interested to see the specs of the Steam Machine.

Now this is proper competition. Online Paywall is pretty much going to go away next gen for Magnus. There's no way MS would keep it now.
 
HDMI 2.0 ONLY WTF

This mean you can't do 4k 120 HDR , only 4k 60 HDR and on top of that it's going to be 8bit instead of 10bit so colors will look like crap , this machine is a downgrade not an upgrade
"For those of you with high end displays we have a connection for you. It's called display port 1.4"

Which you can use with an hdmi 2.1 adapter.
 
GabeCube
GabeStation
Gabebox
GabeEngine
GabeCube is the only appropriate name! And it should be GabeFrame for the headset! 😉

What is wild to me is how Valve manages to work and output hardware like this with company size of between 300-400 people. They are amazingly efficient.

And the same 300-400 employees upkeep Steam and backend resources, work on Proton, work on other features and functionality, update the client and dev tools, upkeep their GaaS games and occasionally even make new ones.

Meanwhile at Microsoft…
 
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Stream Frame lcd and 2160p res realy disappointing, hw looks like should be released in 2023 not 2026. 8gb vram in Steam Machine is baffling. Don't predict big success though price is very important factor here.
 
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GabeCube is the only appropriate name! And it should be GabeFrame for the headset! 😉

What is wild to me is how Valve manages to work and output hardware like this with company size of between 300-400 people. They are amazingly efficient.

And the same 300-400 employees upkeep Steam and backend resources, work on Proton, work on other features and functionality, update the client and dev tools, upkeep their GaaS games and occasionally even make new ones.

Meanwhile at Microsoft…

And also somehow have the best customer service too.
 
I would consider getting that Steam Machine if under $499. Then putting windows on it. Hopefully easy to upgrade ram and storage.

Would look nice next to the FireTV Cube. A lot of users on /r/GeForcenow were using mac mini M4 as a streaming device, this has the potential to be better.

Definitely gonna get that controller though.

Can't believe I'm actually interested in Valve hardware, lol. Hopefully others starts using that design for more powerful NUCs and Mini PCs.
 
Serious question, why hold back on the specs for the Steam Machine? Surely they could have given it more grunt. 8GB of VRAM is not going to be future proofed and very limited. This is likely going to retail for over $799.
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would want to be tied to one platform only. Whether that's steam, playstation, Xbox, or anyone else.

Agreed. I dont see what's to even gain from using SteamOS that I don't get already from using Big Picture Mode. Using them both back to back with the PC handhelds. Its the same shit.
 
For anyone wondering about Steam Machine's TF power, it's 8.78 TF for single-precision floating point (FP32), assuming the calculations are similar to RDNA2 GPUs.

So just a tad shy of base PS5. I'm expecting it won't be priced any higher than $399, it could even be $349. $299 is a low probability but if they hit that price then it's just an automatic win and impulse buy for many (even more than it already is without price even announced).

Yeah, that isn't happening. This will be $499.99 minimum, but expect $599 - $799 depending on the SKU. I don't see this selling well with those specs at a $500 price point.

Also, yes Switch 2 is $449.99, but it has exclusive Nintendo games so people will pay whatever for Nintendo exclusives.
 
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The "who is this for" and "why not just put your own PC in the living room" crowd are strangely silent 🙄


Steam machine certainly seems underwhelming, power wise. But the VR headset will be mine, for sure.
It IS a PC though.
I am interested in the Steam Machine because right now I am sick of the high prices. I mostly use my computer for gaming but it is getting long in the tooth. Steam Machine might be a reliable replacement that I can afford. I don't need max settings, I just need things to work because I haven't got any tech people in my social circle since i graduated university.

I trust that Valve built an okay machine at a justified price. That is good enough for me.
 
As a hardcore PlayStation user, Sony really has to impress me with the PS6 or I'm jumping ship to this.

-I've had enough of their stupid ass online fee that they had the balls to jack up the price on. Give me a break with this.

-if they continue to use those crappy sticks in the controllers. If they do, that means they know the controller will eventually drift, and they are ok with it. They want people to buy new controllers.

Anyways, that's still a few years away. But I'm watching this new steam machine with lots of interest.

The PS6 will eat the Steam Machine's lunch in terms of in game performance and the price point will likely be around the same. This steam machine is about base PS5 levels.

Good luck playing the top tier AAA games 3 yrs down the road with acceptable quality/performance on this thing.

8GB of VRAM for a PC in 2026 is a joke.
 
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Why are they doing Steam Machine now? They couldn't wait until 2027 or 2028? RAM and Hard Drive prices are on the rise thanks to the stupid AI bubble and AMD is going to release RDNA 5 GPUs/APUs in late 2026.

This is a really bad time to be doing this.
 
The PS6 will eat the Steam Machine's lunch in terms of in game performance and the price point will likely be around the same. This steam machine is about base PS5 levels.

Good luck playing the top tier AAA games 3 yrs down the road with acceptable quality/performance on this thing.

8GB of VRAM for a PC in 2026 is a joke.

No way this is on par with base PS5

They are lucky though, because MS made the weak Series S and games still have to run on it for some time
 
HDMI 2.0 ONLY WTF

This mean you can't do 4k 120 HDR , only 4k 60 HDR and on top of that it's going to be 8bit instead of 10bit so colors will look like crap , this machine is a downgrade not an upgrade

I don't think the Steam Machine is meant for power gamers who have the best hardware available and game at 4K120fps regularly. It's aimed more for someone like me, a PC gamer who has a five year old PC rocking a 3060Ti who games at 1080/1440 and 60fps. Its for someone who wants to plug it into their TV and play modest Steam games to relax with very little fuss, not play Cyberpunk or the very newest high end games in 4K120.
 
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