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Stock-Age: Stocks, Options and Dividends oh my!
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Cheesemeister
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dem said:
Wait until it flatlines, but buy before it gets bought out by a competitor.
Cheesemeister
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dem said:
You sound desperate to sell.
I'm doing really well on the VSE, but I'm not happy with where my portfolio is going. Qwest is definitely undervalued (compare the P/E ratio to Sprint), but the sector doesn't seem very healthy. LHC Group was on a solid upward trend but it doesn't seem to be continuing. And shorting a giant like Wal-Mart could bite me in the ass. I'm wondering what I could do better.
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The only thing saving my ass is the fact that I invested in 3 gold mines early in the year, as well as STP. Otherwise, I'd be negative for 2007.
This market sucks.
This market sucks.
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Poor video game sector. NDP numbers show growth once again, which led to no rally, but Gamestop "disappoints on outlook", which sends all shares down big time.
I hate you, stock market.
On my total of $9000 in stocks, I was at $2000 of profits recently, now down $1000:|
I hate you, stock market.
On my total of $9000 in stocks, I was at $2000 of profits recently, now down $1000:|
Fun Factor
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koam said:
Nice for what? To see their faces as their profits are eaten up?
dem said:Shore Gold(SGF) is falllling again.
I'm gonna wait it out and hope it gets below 4.. then im gonna buy in big.
I'm sorry if this question has been asked already...
I just put 1700$ into my TD Waterhouse account with the intention of buying SOME ntdoy stock, but they don't list any. How does a canadian go about owning bits and pieces of Nintendo?
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Asian Stocks Rise After U.S. Retail Sales Climb; Westfield, Nintendo Gain
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4o3Ti1Sdkd4&refer=home
Hopefully a good day tomorrow!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4o3Ti1Sdkd4&refer=home
Hopefully a good day tomorrow!
I sold all my AAPL shares again at 176.90. I am waiting for some dips during the next week. I don't think we are done with the bear market at all and I am being careful with all my holdings right now. I can see the DOW falling below 12000 in the next month until this whole credit market thing has passed over and that could take half a year still.rage1973 said:
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I'm in the red in everything except ATVI, and at this pace it won't take long before this one goes below my buy price too. TTWO and IMMR fell so much already. IMMR down almost 6% today alone (AGAIN).
I am expecting some bad things to happen in the next two weeks. We had good news of very good numbers for the biggest shopping week of the year and it barely made a bleep and the market has come down a good amount in the past 30 minutes. Only thing that could possibly turn the market around short term is if the Fed cuts rate again in December and I don't see that happening at all.Ether_Snake said:
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Even rates cuts again won't do anything for more than like a couple of days.
BTW I'm down -17.80% on VGSEN, that is -17.80% TODAY alone! :lol (all Brazilian stocks)
BTW I'm down -17.80% on VGSEN, that is -17.80% TODAY alone! :lol (all Brazilian stocks)
I'm still up for the year (though only around 5%) despite having a portfolio that constantly worries me with its complete disregard for diversification. Very tech-heavy. I'm actually getting hit worst by my more bellwether stocks like T. Unfortunately that's a Dow stock and when the Dow gets hit, 9 times out of 10 it does as well.
It's so annoying to see daily graphs like TNP today - up, up, up and OH NO LOOK OUT BELOW! I logged in this morning to see my portfolio up several hundred, then just logged in again and I'm in the red $13.50 for the day. Seems like this predicting-the-future stuff should be easier.
It's so annoying to see daily graphs like TNP today - up, up, up and OH NO LOOK OUT BELOW! I logged in this morning to see my portfolio up several hundred, then just logged in again and I'm in the red $13.50 for the day. Seems like this predicting-the-future stuff should be easier.
Ether_Snake said:
I'm up only because my portfolio is kinda bearish. Wal-Mart short, then a couple of fairly recession-proof stocks.. Qwest and LHC Group, a health-care provider. The health-care field in particular might be something we have to look into as more and more boomers get old and go on Social Security.
ATVI significantly raised Q3 and FY08 guidance this morning, and is up more than 10% to 21 in pre-hours trading. Finally, some good news.
I sold about 35% of my NTDOY holdings yesterday to limit my exposure, but I'm sort-of regretting it already. I don't see this market staying below 13k for long.
I sold about 35% of my NTDOY holdings yesterday to limit my exposure, but I'm sort-of regretting it already. I don't see this market staying below 13k for long.
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Yeah that's nice, too bad I'm not moving any money at the moment (and not until I sell something anyway). First stock on the way out would be IMMR as soon as they reach my buy price again (which is probably very far off). It's too bad, I want to keep it, but not in such market conditions. If the markets are more stable by then, I'll keep it. Then it would be TTWO. I'm a keeper for ATVI till the end of the fiscal quarter at least. CGT is very long term.
And when markets recover, I will invest a lot in INTC (it follows the Nasdaq step by step).
And when markets recover, I will invest a lot in INTC (it follows the Nasdaq step by step).
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Some more good news for CAE CGT:
CAE announces marketing collaboration with Microsoft to address defence, public safety and homeland security markets.
This company is IMO totally undervalued, there is even no activity on the Google or Yahoo messageboards
CAE announces marketing collaboration with Microsoft to address defence, public safety and homeland security markets.
This company is IMO totally undervalued, there is even no activity on the Google or Yahoo messageboards
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Another good day ahead. If we get a good week I think the Nasdaq will hit its last highest of Oct 31st in the coming weeks.
I was 1 hair from buying INTC this morning but I'm waiting to get a clearer confirmation that this is a recovery. Plus it's up 3.75% at the moment so I prefer not to buy at a 1$ rise. INTC has been following the Nasdaq step by step, more than any other company I looked at, so it makes it interesting to buy it on Nasdaq recovery, but I'm just not that confident yet.
BTW I don't understand, on VSE, why the heck did it say my returns yesterday were of -13% when all my stocks were up? And today it says "today's gains, -1.96%" but all my stocks are green again.
BBD +7.15%
BRP +2.45%
ITU +6.21%
RIO +6.11%
-1.96% my ass!
I was 1 hair from buying INTC this morning but I'm waiting to get a clearer confirmation that this is a recovery. Plus it's up 3.75% at the moment so I prefer not to buy at a 1$ rise. INTC has been following the Nasdaq step by step, more than any other company I looked at, so it makes it interesting to buy it on Nasdaq recovery, but I'm just not that confident yet.
BTW I don't understand, on VSE, why the heck did it say my returns yesterday were of -13% when all my stocks were up? And today it says "today's gains, -1.96%" but all my stocks are green again.
BBD +7.15%
BRP +2.45%
ITU +6.21%
RIO +6.11%
-1.96% my ass!
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Good to know.
Btw STP is up again, 7.89% at the moment. The only Chinese stock I ever wanted to buy (and never did).
Btw STP is up again, 7.89% at the moment. The only Chinese stock I ever wanted to buy (and never did
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I was thinking about this and I think once I have the funds I'll just buy more of CGT. I was tempted to buy INTC, or HAL, but screw it. I can dedicate a specific amount of money to short term stocks, and I won't increase that amount. I'll trade with that money and its gains/losses. I'll dedicate a separate amount of money to long-term investments, and CGT is going to be one of those. I want to invest more for the long-term in aerospace/defense like UTX, BA, GD, NOC, ORB, RTN, TXT, but they are all expensive (except ORB). I'll do so in the future when the funds become available somehow
I don't like short-term trading, it is stressful and blurry.
I don't like short-term trading, it is stressful and blurry.
Short-term is hit or miss, for sure. More people have lost money in the VSE than gained, by about 2 to 1. Nobody knows which way the economy is going and trading volumes are very high as nervous investors monitor the headlines for any signs of trouble (or recovery). It's pretty vicious out there.
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ATVI total gains are of +15.09% so far. Everything else is pitiful (Oct 31st was really nice, but that is all gone since):lol
On VGE today:
ITU +11.34%
BRP +7.54%
BBD +10.34%
RIO +8.50%
Those Brazllian stocks always follow the overall market. If it's up they jump way high, if it's down they tank.
BTW who the heck posts on Yahoo message boards? I'm surprised most "investors" write like they're on GameFAQs...
On VGE today:
ITU +11.34%
BRP +7.54%
BBD +10.34%
RIO +8.50%
Those Brazllian stocks always follow the overall market. If it's up they jump way high, if it's down they tank.
BTW who the heck posts on Yahoo message boards? I'm surprised most "investors" write like they're on GameFAQs...
Ether_Snake
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Here's why I wanted to buy INTC today. The only reason I'm not doing so is because I don't have enough funds to make it worthwhile, since I expect it to go up to 27.50 or 28 at most in the near future before going down again. Basically, since I think the Nasdaq is on a recovery and will reach its previous highest of highs, and since INTC has been following the Nasdaq step by step, I think it's a good indicator of a buying opportunity, selling it when the Nasdaq hits its previous all time high. But as I said above I wouldn't make enough money so I'm opting out, plus I'm still not entirely confident in the market.
Try to find another company that follows an index so closely. Here is Apple in comparison, very difficult to predict because it's not following the Nasdaq in a predictable manner (well it seems to multiply the Nasdaq's highs and lows):
Following the above logic I would think that Apple will reach 189 by the time the Nasdaq has reached its previous all-time high. We'll see!
Try to find another company that follows an index so closely. Here is Apple in comparison, very difficult to predict because it's not following the Nasdaq in a predictable manner (well it seems to multiply the Nasdaq's highs and lows):
Following the above logic I would think that Apple will reach 189 by the time the Nasdaq has reached its previous all-time high. We'll see!
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Yeah third post in a row, sue me
Asian Stocks Gain on U.S. Rate Cut Speculation; Samsung Electronics Rises
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLYjXuAWI_V8&refer=home
Japan's Industrial Production Rises to Record on Demand from China, Europe
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWwvnpD162_g&refer=home
We'll likely have another rally tomorrow.
Asian Stocks Gain on U.S. Rate Cut Speculation; Samsung Electronics Rises
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLYjXuAWI_V8&refer=home
Japan's Industrial Production Rises to Record on Demand from China, Europe
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWwvnpD162_g&refer=home
We'll likely have another rally tomorrow.
Futures were mostly down this morning because of a big jump in oil prices. Looks like the indexes are following suit as expected. Still I'm not doing too badly out of the gate. NFLX and TNP are both posting modest gains, and GME recovered everything I lost and then some from when I tried to play the earnings card and lost. I had a huge day yesterday with every single stock in the black. Not too shabby for such poor diversification
Bernanke has a talk tonight but I wouldn't expect anything big out of it. Who knows though.
Bernanke has a talk tonight but I wouldn't expect anything big out of it. Who knows though.
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Maxwell House will be very happy if he still has his STP shares; up 10.96% (+$8.15) so far today (must be close to 20% in two days). I think it was upgraded and also there is an article on Bloomberg about "Solar Power as the Next Great Investment Bonanza" which may have helped.
Like I said the rate cut is pretty much the only thing that could right the market at its current state. The reason for the good rebound this week is due to some Fed members hinting at possible rate cut in December. This news has a double fold affect now as bad news about the economy can actually drive up the market since bad news actually raises the chance of a Fed rate cut. Hopefully this will be a catalyst to a rising market in the next month or so but the overall bear market trends still continue in the next year or so.Ether_Snake said:
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That could explain why today it continued to hold up even tho a couple of bad news came in.
Anyway I'm really hands-tied for a while. There is no stock I have that I want to get rid of. ATVI, I am very confident in them, I think they are going to continue to close-in on EA (and a Take2 acquisition is possible sometime in late 2008 or early 2009, and Take2 compliments ATVI moreso than EA).
TTWO's new management are obviously working to put the company on the right track to get serious offers, and I expect that to show in late 2008 early 2009. So I'm not selling, especially with GTA probably in line for a spring release (altho it could be delayed). I could see myself selling and buying TTWO, because when they dip they dip hard. But I'm not letting go of it completely.
IMMR is one I could get rid of when it reaches the price I paid for it, but again I actually believe in what they are doing, the tech, and there chance to grow. It's all about management at this point and this is something I have no idea about.
CGT is very long term, and it's my safest stock as far as I am concerned. I'm probably buying more next month when I'll get the funds.
So I just don't see myself selling anything soon. Which sorts of suck in a way, because there are a couple of aerospace/defense stocks I want to invest in but they are all extremely expensive to me other than ORB :| They are all around 70 to 100$. Same thing for other interesting investments like PG or UN :|
Anyway I'm really hands-tied for a while. There is no stock I have that I want to get rid of. ATVI, I am very confident in them, I think they are going to continue to close-in on EA (and a Take2 acquisition is possible sometime in late 2008 or early 2009, and Take2 compliments ATVI moreso than EA).
TTWO's new management are obviously working to put the company on the right track to get serious offers, and I expect that to show in late 2008 early 2009. So I'm not selling, especially with GTA probably in line for a spring release (altho it could be delayed). I could see myself selling and buying TTWO, because when they dip they dip hard. But I'm not letting go of it completely.
IMMR is one I could get rid of when it reaches the price I paid for it, but again I actually believe in what they are doing, the tech, and there chance to grow. It's all about management at this point and this is something I have no idea about.
CGT is very long term, and it's my safest stock as far as I am concerned. I'm probably buying more next month when I'll get the funds.
So I just don't see myself selling anything soon. Which sorts of suck in a way, because there are a couple of aerospace/defense stocks I want to invest in but they are all extremely expensive to me other than ORB :| They are all around 70 to 100$. Same thing for other interesting investments like PG or UN :|
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Damn... back in May I think I told my friends they should buy Ubisoft, thinking it would go from 35 to 45 Euro within a year. Well it's at 59, and probably going to hit the 60 next week
I always missed my chance with Ubi...
I always missed my chance with Ubi...
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I think it has been an IDEAL week. First a drop, but then we've had rallies even in the face of bad news. There is the interest rate cut going, but it's not there, so it helps people get off the panic mode and pay attention to the stocks. Yesterday things calmed down, which again is a good thing because hasty buying leads to hasty selling. Now we will have had two days of calm but good trading, which is really what we need to return to a sense of normality.