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[Shanadeus]

I read about diet soda causing diabetes too, but I can't find the article any more. But I found this: http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/15880/trouble-diet-soda/

The soft drink industry primarily uses aspartame (brand name NutraSweet) in its diet drinks. Diet Rite is the biggest selling non-aspartame diet soda brand. It uses a combination of sucralose and acesulfame potassium.

How could these non-nutritive sweeteners possibly be associated with weight gain and the metabolic syndrome? The authors of the Circulation study led by Ravi Dhingra, MD, an instructor in medicine at Harvard Medical School, think that the high level of sweetness “may lead to conditioning for a greater preference for intake of sweetened items.”

So it's just a matter of controlling one's own sugar tooth? The soda itself won't make you fat or get metabolic syndrome, it's only if you increase your intake of sweetened items.

Even all of these studies together don’t prove that diet soda or non-nutritive sweeteners actually is the cause of all of these troubles. They report on an association or correlation.

But the evidence against diet soda is mounting. All the more reason to consider other beverages. Like water.

Scaremongering at its finest.

 

[Rocksteady33]

Type 2 diabetes, mother fuckers. Don't mix us type 1's into this mix.

 

[mooooose]

I drink soda when I eat out, and only one glass. Otherwise I drink water, tea, or coffee. Maybe some Trader Joe's Apple Juice. Soda is gross, it rots your entire body.

 

[Cdammen]

I drink coffee, water, green/rooibos tea and red wine. It's awesome and all of those have great health benefits.

I can't stand sugar. I actually feel a bit nauseous when I taste sugar in my drink or in food (that isn't a dessert or candy).

Sodas / soft drinks are disgusting.

 

[red shoe paul]

*spits out mtn dew*

*Drinks more Mountain Dew.*
I'd die drinking that, hahah. :lol

 

[Zaptruder]

I used to think that.

And then I watched this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM


Went from 2-3 sodas a day to 2 a week.


It talks about how for the past 30 years the government has tried to push people away from fat, but sugar is the real evil. Anyone who has done the atkins diet, or knows someone that has can attest to the real world results.

Thanks for posting that. Incredibly enlightening video, backed up by tons of research (way beyond my ability to comprehend, but still incredibly convincing nonetheless ), good presentation of stats (which I do understand somewhat), and information on how constant and divisive the presence of sugar is in our foods.

I plan on reducing sugar intake significantly after watching this video...

 

[LCfiner]

"Study: Eating a cup of sugar every day fuels rise in Diabetes, Heart Disease"


When I first realized how much sugar is packed into soda (back in the early 90s) i freaked right out. And then you have people who either don't know or don't care drinking liters of this stuff every day. Of course it's gonna mess people up.

 

[beje]

I plan on reducing sugar intake significantly after watching this video...

Just reducing the soda from "daily" to "from time to time, and diet-type if possible" you are doing a lot. I have NEVER tried any non-diet/zero/light since I saw that the ammount of sugar in a can of Fanta was almost 50% of the daily intake, which should ideally be covered with polysacarids like pasta, cereals, rice and such, leaving plain sugar/HFCS/fructose as a small dose.

 

[chase]

I don't care.

Health nuts are more annoying than PETA-freaks.

 

[SnakeXs]

I don't care.

Health nuts are more annoying than PETA-freaks.

Wow. On so many levels.

 

[Magni]

I really need to cut back on soda consumption. Since starting college I'm averaging six liters a week =/ This term I'm not buying any soda at home. Only have one 1.5L bottle to finish..

News at 11: Consumption of large amounts of sugar promotes the risk of Diabetes and Heart Disease.

This took 20 replies?!

 

[taylor910]

ITT, consuming a shitload of sugar gives you diabetes.

EDIT: Christ I was late by a mile.

 

[Cereal KiIIer]

But it's so good

Nothing beats a ice cold Coke when you are thursty

 

[Amory]

:-O

 

[Ceres]

Lots of sugar raises risk of diabetes and heart disease? Never!

 

[GoutPatrol]

But it's so good

Nothing beats a ice cold Coke when you are thursty

Probably, but people shouldn't be drinking more than a Coke a day, if that.

 

[eznark]

I drink coffee, water, green/rooibos tea and red wine. It's awesome and all of those have great health benefits.

I can't stand sugar. I actually feel a bit nauseous when I taste sugar in my drink or in food (that isn't a dessert or candy).

Sodas / soft drinks are disgusting.

How many times did you pompously push your glasses up and chuckle condescendingly at the plebes while you wrote this post?

 

[grumble]

It's just a front. Every time someone posts a study of some sort half of Gaf is compelled to act as if they've always believed that the subject of that study is the bane of the modern world. They just want to appear scientifically literate. Everyone knows that excessive sugar is unhealthy, yet these fuckers are acting as if they're among the few in the know. AFTER the board went crazy about Pepsi and Mountain Dew throwbacks, mind you.

I don't really agree with this. You get a response bias. People who read it and drink a lot of pop know it's bad for you and often avoid posting. Those whose views include 'pop is bad for you' and avoid it or have stories about its negative effects post no problem in this thread, as it validates their views.

NeoGAF isn't homogenous. Just like the COD4 thread is populated with COD fans, the anti-pop thread is populated by anti-pop people or people who otherwise have associated commentary (drink pop want to stop, how it's hard to stop when it's so tasty, how much they drink, some pop-related story, related drink that are also bad for you, nutrition advice, 'look mom I don't drink pop I'm so cool', etc).

 

[BertramCooper]

I think I've lost my sweet tooth, for the most part. I hardly ever crave super sugary stuff anymore. The only thing I sweeten these days is my coffee, and I use Splenda, not sugar.

I do drink soda, but only diet, and usually 1-2 max per day. Usually Cherry Coke Zero or Diet Cherry Coke (most stores carry one of the two, but few carry both).

I've also upped my water intake tremendously, and it's had very good effects. A lot of people get headaches from dehydration, and since making a concerted effort to drink more water, I rarely get them.

 

[Boozeroony]

Isn't this pretty old news

edit: nvm, missed the 'diet' in the articles title.

edit2: Bubbling over: soda consumption and its link to obesity in California.

 

[sixteen-bit]

i cannot stand soda

 

[crowphoenix]

I really need to cut down on my Soda intake. I drink way too much of the stuff.

 

[Wilsongt]

In other news, water is wet and shit stinks.

 

[Aquavelvaman]

But it's so good

Nothing beats a ice cold Coke when you are thursty

There's pretty much nothing worse than an ice cold coke when you're thirsty.

Next time you're out on a hot summers day and you feel a little dry in the throat, just take a shot and a half of sugar and chase it with some salt.

 

[Cereal KiIIer]

There's pretty much nothing worse than an ice cold coke when you're thirsty.

Next time you're out on a hot summers day and you feel a little dry in the throat, just take a shot and a half of sugar and chase it with some salt.

What about coke zero?

 

[Boozeroony]

What about coke zero?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19151203

CONCLUSIONS: Although these observational data cannot establish causality, consumption of diet soda at least daily was associated with significantly greater risks of select incident metabolic syndrome components and type 2 diabetes.

 

[Davidion]

The only place Coke has in my beverage intake is in my Rum.

Hey, if you're going to do it...

 

[Shanadeus]

What about coke zero?

Coke zero is safe

 

[Aquavelvaman]

Coke zero has tons of sodium. It won't help your thirst unless You find eating salt refreshing.

 

[BertramCooper]

It's hard to believe that people actually drink pop to quench their thirst. Even when I do drink pop (one can a day, typically), it's definitely not to alleviate my thirst. I drink water when I'm thirsty.

 

[Boozeroony]

I adore milk when i'm thirsty. It's Gods jizz.

 

[Stahsky]

When I was younger I drank a can or two a day. As the years went on, I just sorted out grew it. Now I'll drink one every other week or so, or if I stop by some fast food place for a quick bite (rarely do.)


Is tea bad for you? The regular stuff. Iced tea.

 

[HylianTom]

Obligatory Brimley Diabetes dance mix..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILIvPzyK_8I

 

[Shanadeus]

Coke zero has tons of sodium. It won't help your thirst unless You find eating salt refreshing.

The amount of sodium in a Coke zero is only 2% of your recomended daily allowance, not that bad really.

 

[Desperado]

If you really ate this diet you'd be a fruitarian, but with a little meat sprinkled on top. And you probably do not want to be a fruitarian. No need to add the modifier 'occasional' being the point here. No need for fruit and vegetable juice, either, especially considering that fruit juice is the rough equivalent of sugar water with vitamins.

Depending on what "veggies" we're talking about here, no, they wouldn't be fruitarian, and I'm not exactly sure what you're saying with the whole 'occasional' thing, but eating meat isn't compatible with "fruitarianism" any more than it is with veganism or vegetarianism.

 

[silverbullet1080]

I drink a soda a day and I also have a family history of both. Fantastic :lol

 

[Aquavelvaman]

I'm not speaking to health concerns, but rather about soda's function as a thirst quencher.

 

[Davidion]

Is tea bad for you? The regular stuff. Iced tea.

I'm pretty sure almost all of the stuff is loaded with sugar, including just about all the Snapples and designer sweetened teas.

Try reading the nutritional info the next time you're out buying a drink on the run; you'd be surprised at how few of these drinks out there outside of water and seltzer contain anything less than dollops of sugar.

 

[TheLastCandle]

How many times did you pompously push your glasses up and chuckle condescendingly at the plebes while you wrote this post?

:lol

Exactly what I was thinking, but put much more eloquently than I could ever muster.

So what we're to gather from this is sugar causes diabetes. Shock and awe. Soda isn't good for you but calling it "poison in a can" is a crock of shit. I'd rather chug a pepsi than a bottle of lye any day.

 

[Stahsky]

I'm pretty sure almost all of the stuff is loaded with sugar, including just about all the Snapples and designer sweetened teas.

Try reading the nutritional info the next time you're out buying a drink on the run; you'd be surprised at how few of these drinks out there outside of water and seltzer contain anything less than dollops of sugar.

Oh, I don't drink the stuff from the bottles/cans/whatever. Those brown tea gallon size teabags.



Edit: holy shit, I've been looking at your avatar wrong for so long...

 

[C-Jo]

I'd rather chug a pepsi than a bottle of lye any day.

Box quote.

 

[Futureman]

There's pretty much nothing worse than an ice cold coke when you're thirsty.

Next time you're out on a hot summers day and you feel a little dry in the throat, just take a shot and a half of sugar and chase it with some salt.

Wow. That's crazy. I was wondering if the sugar I put in my coffee was a problem, but I use probably like 1/6 of a shot glass in my morning coffee.

I pretty much only drink pop when I eat out, and I'm poor, so I don't eat out often!

 

[richiek]

I used to drink a hell of a lot of soda back in my college days.

Nowadays I drink diet soda, although I know the artificial sweeteners are gonna fuck me over later on.

 

[HylianTom]

Is tea bad for you? The regular stuff. Iced tea.

Hmm.. maybe a small issue with kidney stones. Oxalates and such..

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2008/08/kidney_stones_hold_the_iced_te.html

I've had a few stones, but still love a cup of tea. I'd bet the pros outweigh the cons.

 

[TheLastCandle]

Nowadays I drink diet soda, although I know the artificial sweeteners are gonna fuck me over later on.

Diet soda is a problem for me. I drink way, WAY too much of it. There's no proof of the artificial sweetners they currently use having any effects on humans yet, so I rest easy there. However, it does make me feel like a bloaty piece of shit. All that damn carbonation.

 

[Stahsky]

Hmm.. maybe a small issue with kidney stones. Oxalates and such..

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2008/08/kidney_stones_hold_the_iced_te.html

I've had a few stones, but still love a cup of tea. I'd bet the pros outweigh the cons.

I probably drink 3-5 cups of iced tea a day depending on how I feel. It's like, my comfort food/drink. Not much of a sugary snack/candy person either. My favorite snack are sunflower seeds. I'm only 21, but I don't think I've ever had any kidney stone-like issues. Never bothered with those snapples or other form of bottled/canned tea. Maybe I should try and make the change to green tea. hmmm

 

[karasu]

Coke zero has tons of sodium. It won't help your thirst unless You find eating salt refreshing.

No it doesn't. Out of the 1500-2400mg of sodium you can have a day, Coke Zero has 40mg.

 

[Aquavelvaman]

I'm not speaking to health concerns, but rather about soda's function as a thirst quencher.

I'm not speaking to health concerns, but rather about soda's function as a thirst quencher.

 

[jmdajr]

if all we ate was

-veggies
- water
- fruit
- fruit and vegetable juice
- nuts
- occasional meat

legumes...I like those.

 

[CharlieDigital]

Diet soda is a problem for me. I drink way, WAY too much of it. There's no proof of the artificial sweetners they currently use having any effects on humans yet, so I rest easy there. However, it does make me feel like a bloaty piece of shit. All that damn carbonation.

The carbonation and coloring really isn't good for your teeth.