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[Mudkips]

You guys should watch the sugar video.

Your scare tactics won't work on me.
I have a basic understanding of my digestive system. Not everything I eat stays in my body. Every gram of sugar isn't converted into DEATH POISON if I don't exercise it away within the hour. I do this ritual, quite often, actually, where I expel fluid waste and excrete solid waste.

It's kinda gross, but the gist of it is a lot of bad stuff leaves my body routinely.

Same goes for the shitty, shitty graph about calories in and calories out.
Unless you're burning your shit and piss in a calorimeter, that little equation isn't telling the whole story - it's hokum! Well-intentioned as it may be, it's still hokum.

 

[Zozz]

You just can't admit you're wrong.

 

[ruxtpin]

Your scare tactics won't work on me.
I have a basic understanding of my digestive system. Not everything I eat stays in my body. Every gram of sugar isn't converted into DEATH POISON if I don't exercise it away within the hour. I do this ritual, quite often, actually, where I expel fluid waste and excrete solid waste.

It's kinda gross, but the gist of it is a lot of bad stuff leaves my body routinely.

Same goes for the shitty, shitty graph about calories in and calories out.
Unless you're burning your shit and piss in a calorimeter, that little equation isn't telling the whole story - it's hokum! Well-intentioned as it may be, it's still hokum.

I agree, but I should still probably drink less soda. I run approximately 40-50 miles a week, so anything I take in is used up pretty quickly.

 

[Quagm1r3]

I used to think that.

And then I watched this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM


Went from 2-3 sodas a day to 2 a week.


It talks about how for the past 30 years the government has tried to push people away from fat, but sugar is the real evil. Anyone who has done the atkins diet, or knows someone that has can attest to the real world results.

Thanks for posting the video. I never drink non-diet soda, and after seeing that video, I never will. At least alcohol is fun to drink; fructose is ethanol without the fun.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Fage total Honey has more than twice the sugar of Chobani Vanilla, almost the same as a can of Coke, and less than half the protein.

I couldn't care less if it's authentically Greek. I care that it tastes good and is healthy.

And when the heck did saturated fat become healthy? I thought saturated fat's associated with Cancer and heart disease; a cup of Fage has like 90% of the recommended daily allotment of the stuff.

There's nothing wrong with eating animal saturated fat. Hell, it's vital for your organism. What you should avoid is hydrogenated vegetable oils.

 

[Phobophile]

And this is why I drink pop instead.

 

[Dogenzaka]

1g of fat produces twice as many ATP as a similar 1g of carbohydrate :O

Your scare tactics won't work on me.
I have a basic understanding of my digestive system. Not everything I eat stays in my body. Every gram of sugar isn't converted into DEATH POISON if I don't exercise it away within the hour. I do this ritual, quite often, actually, where I expel fluid waste and excrete solid waste.

It's kinda gross, but the gist of it is a lot of bad stuff leaves my body routinely.

Same goes for the shitty, shitty graph about calories in and calories out.
Unless you're burning your shit and piss in a calorimeter, that little equation isn't telling the whole story - it's hokum! Well-intentioned as it may be, it's still hokum.

Hilarious.

Actually, the majority of the gunk that is in the American diet likely stays caked on the lining of the bowels for years, actually putrifying within. It attests to many Americans' slow-moving digestive tracts. A healthy digestive tract is actually supposed to have about 2 clean, soft bowel movements every day.

I'm going to start a detox in a few months, actually. Hope to feel better afterwards.

 

[kame-sennin]

Your scare tactics won't work on me.
I have a basic understanding of my digestive system. Not everything I eat stays in my body. Every gram of sugar isn't converted into DEATH POISON if I don't exercise it away within the hour. I do this ritual, quite often, actually, where I expel fluid waste and excrete solid waste.

It's kinda gross, but the gist of it is a lot of bad stuff leaves my body routinely.

Same goes for the shitty, shitty graph about calories in and calories out.
Unless you're burning your shit and piss in a calorimeter, that little equation isn't telling the whole story - it's hokum! Well-intentioned as it may be, it's still hokum.

Did you watch the video or not? It explains pretty clearly why most of what you posted is incorrect.

 

[legend166]

Cutting out milk would also mean cutting out cereal, which I'll never, ever do.

 

[Dogenzaka]

Cutting out milk would also mean cutting out cereal, which I'll never, ever do.

Not necessarily. Try rice milk

 

[Mgoblue201]

The only soda I drink is decaffeinated diet Rite or similar equivalents for Coke and Pepsi, but I probably should cut most of it out and drink mostly water.

 

[jiggle]

watching the video on sugar now

how does honey fit into all this?
the guy said fructose are all bad
including honey?



was drinking 4 cans of coke /day until last month,
trying to quit now by switching to water sweetened with honey
if it's just as bad or only slightly better, iono why i bothered :lol..

 

[grumble]

1g of fat produces twice as many ATP as a similar 1g of carbohydrate :O



Hilarious.

Actually, the majority of the gunk that is in the American diet likely stays caked on the lining of the bowels for years, actually putrifying within. It attests to many Americans' slow-moving digestive tracts. A healthy digestive tract is actually supposed to have about 2 clean, soft bowel movements every day.

I'm going to start a detox in a few months, actually. Hope to feel better afterwards.

This is homeopathic bullshit.

What detoxes usually do is decimate your gut flora, which is not a good idea. The 3-4 pounds of bacteria in your gut (the so-called gunk in your bowels) is actually extremely beneficial; it produces vitamins, helps to process food, helps to regulate your bowel movements, stimulates your immune system, etc. It's a symbiotic relationship.

There's no 'putrifying' going on there.

 

[kame-sennin]

watching the video on sugar now

how does honey fit into all this?
the guy said fructose are all bad
including honey?



was drinking 4 cans of coke /day until last month,
trying to quit now by switching to water sweetened with honey
if it's just as bad or only slightly better, iono why i bothered :lol..

If you cut out sweetened drinks, your taste buds will adapt and you won't crave sweets as much. So don't worry if it seems impossible to cut out sugar drinks at first.

 

[Dogenzaka]

watching the video on sugar now

how does honey fit into all this?
the guy said fructose are all bad
including honey?



was drinking 4 cans of coke /day until last month,
trying to quit now by switching to water sweetened with honey
if it's just as bad or only slightly better, iono why i bothered :lol..

Are you unable to drink something that isn't sweet? Lol.
Try to wean yourself off of sweeteners. I'm not sure if honey is that bad, but I drink like 4-5 bottles of water a day. It's a good idea to acquire a taste and appreciation for the "plain"ness of water.

What detoxes usually do is decimate your gut flora, which is not a good idea. The 3-4 pounds of bacteria in your gut (the so-called gunk in your bowels) is actually extremely beneficial; it produces vitamins, helps to process food, helps to regulate your bowel movements, stimulates your immune system, etc. It's a symbiotic relationship.

There's no 'putrifying' going on there.

Yeah no, I'm not talking about the bacteria.
I'm talking about toxins from the American diet.

The foods we eat can also be a transfer point for toxins. At least 2,800 substances have been recognized as food additives by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). These are used to make foods more attractive, to make foods more tasty, and to increase the grocery shelf life. According to some reports, we may consume an average of 8 to 15 lbs (3.6 to 6.8 k) a year of chemicals that contribute nothing to the body and may do harm.

Even foods with no additives can cause toxins. Eating carbohydrates that are too refined, such as bread and white flour, is like eating glue or paste: it is goopy stuff that does not slide through the intestines, but instead slogs through, sticking to intestinal walls and gumming up the works. This results in a buildup of waste in the colon. This fecal matter begins to decay, producing bacteria and toxins. The toxins eventually seep through the bowel wall, where blood capillaries pick them up and distribute them throughout the body.

Toxins are also created by the body in the metabolic process, usually in response to unbalanced conditions. Emotional stress, an unbalanced diet, and consuming too much food can all contribute to toxic intake.

And by detox, I mean completely changing my diet, becoming more hydrated and getting more sun.

 

[Natetan]

http://www.itoen.com/

Here in NYC, the only unsweetened bottle tea that you'll likely see is in one of the varieties on that site. I'm not sure how it's like in the rest of the country. Honest T used to contend, but it seems like all of their teas have become lightly sweetened (which is actually pretty good) and their products seem to be leaning a lot more towards juices.

You'd be surprised re: the potential market for unsweetened teas. It's there, but it's not necessarily all that explosively popular.

If you have access to a Japanese market, keep an eye out; Japanese brands pretty much have some major metro markets cornered for the time being.

Thanks. I do have access to a japanese market.

It seems like itoen is making there teas upscale i.e. expensive in the non-japanese market. Would be nice to see cheap and unsweetened tea for the masses, so the same people that pick up a nestea would drink this without thinking its elitist, etc. as that demographic of the US is most likely the one that is prone to obesity/type II diabetes.

 

[Price Dalton]

watching the video on sugar now

how does honey fit into all this?
the guy said fructose are all bad
including honey?



was drinking 4 cans of coke /day until last month,
trying to quit now by switching to water sweetened with honey
if it's just as bad or only slightly better, iono why i bothered :lol..

Honey has even more fructose and sucrose or HFCS, so yeah, I'd limit it.

Honey sweetened water? That's hilarious.

 

[Fjord]

Yeah no, I'm not talking about the bacteria.
I'm talking about toxins from the American diet.

The foods we eat can also be a transfer point for toxins. At least 2,800 substances have been recognized as food additives by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). These are used to make foods more attractive, to make foods more tasty, and to increase the grocery shelf life. According to some reports, we may consume an average of 8 to 15 lbs (3.6 to 6.8 k) a year of chemicals that contribute nothing to the body and may do harm.

Even foods with no additives can cause toxins. Eating carbohydrates that are too refined, such as bread and white flour, is like eating glue or paste: it is goopy stuff that does not slide through the intestines, but instead slogs through, sticking to intestinal walls and gumming up the works. This results in a buildup of waste in the colon. This fecal matter begins to decay, producing bacteria and toxins. The toxins eventually seep through the bowel wall, where blood capillaries pick them up and distribute them throughout the body.

Toxins are also created by the body in the metabolic process, usually in response to unbalanced conditions. Emotional stress, an unbalanced diet, and consuming too much food can all contribute to toxic intake.

And by detox, I mean completely changing my diet, becoming more hydrated and getting more sun.

No, grumble is right, this is homeopathic bullshit.

 

[Dogenzaka]

No, grumble is right, this is homeopathic bullshit.

You could google "toxins from food" or "toxins in digestive tract" and save me the trouble.

 

[teh_pwn]

Chronic sugar consumption, particularly fructose, causes all sorts of health problems. Fructose is worse because it causes leptin resistance, ie it makes you hungrier than the amount of food you really need. Calories in versus calories out doesn't work too well when your gut tells you to eat 20% more.

 

[elrechazado]

1g of fat produces twice as many ATP as a similar 1g of carbohydrate :O



Hilarious.

Actually, the majority of the gunk that is in the American diet likely stays caked on the lining of the bowels for years, actually putrifying within. It attests to many Americans' slow-moving digestive tracts. A healthy digestive tract is actually supposed to have about 2 clean, soft bowel movements every day.

I'm going to start a detox in a few months, actually. Hope to feel better afterwards.

unscientific hokum. Whenever someone starts talking about "toxins", the bullshit detector explodes.

Take your enemas and homeopathic nonsense and old wives tales about impacted fecal matter to the voodoo doctors and out of a thread filled with otherwise good information.

 

[teh_pwn]

Are you unable to drink something that isn't sweet? Lol.
Try to wean yourself off of sweeteners. I'm not sure if honey is that bad, but I drink like 4-5 bottles of water a day. It's a good idea to acquire a taste and appreciation for the "plain"ness of water.



Yeah no, I'm not talking about the bacteria.
I'm talking about toxins from the American diet.

The foods we eat can also be a transfer point for toxins. At least 2,800 substances have been recognized as food additives by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). These are used to make foods more attractive, to make foods more tasty, and to increase the grocery shelf life. According to some reports, we may consume an average of 8 to 15 lbs (3.6 to 6.8 k) a year of chemicals that contribute nothing to the body and may do harm.

Even foods with no additives can cause toxins. Eating carbohydrates that are too refined, such as bread and white flour, is like eating glue or paste: it is goopy stuff that does not slide through the intestines, but instead slogs through, sticking to intestinal walls and gumming up the works. This results in a buildup of waste in the colon. This fecal matter begins to decay, producing bacteria and toxins. The toxins eventually seep through the bowel wall, where blood capillaries pick them up and distribute them throughout the body.

Toxins are also created by the body in the metabolic process, usually in response to unbalanced conditions. Emotional stress, an unbalanced diet, and consuming too much food can all contribute to toxic intake.

And by detox, I mean completely changing my diet, becoming more hydrated and getting more sun.

Pseudo-science isn't needed when real science is much easier to understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

 

[Dogenzaka]

Pseudo-science isn't needed when real science is much easier to understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

I've already seen that video and agree with it. Not sure what that has to do with other toxins.

 

[teh_pwn]

I've already seen that video and agree with it. Not sure what that has to do with other toxins.

Then be a little more specific with the word toxins. If you're talking about BPA in canned tomatoes, I absolutely agree that's a toxin and should be removed from the diet.

 

[WanderingWind]

Pseudo-science isn't needed when real science is much easier to understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

That's pretty interesting stuff, actually. Now I have a video to back up what I was taught in college. :lol

 

[racerx]

Honey has even more fructose and sucrose or HFCS, so yeah, I'd limit it.

Honey sweetened water? That's hilarious.

actually, honey is considered, amongst the holistic health experts, to be pretty healthy and an ideal sweetener. It has a lot of other nutrients that aren't present in normal white sugar.

One of the biggest problems with white sugar is that it's an empty fuel. Meaning, that when you burn calories of white sugar, a whole host of co-nutrients are needed to oxidize it. And because of this, you become deficient in vitamins and co-factors your body needs.
In honey, these co-nutrients are there, so that the burn is cleaner.

If you need to sweeten something, use honey. But honey is expensive compared to white sugar.

 

[grumble]

There's nothing wrong with some fructose; after all, it's what we evolved eating. It's excessive fructose that's the issue.

 

[Dogenzaka]

Then be a little more specific with the word toxins. If you're talking about BPA in canned tomatoes, I absolutely agree that's a toxin and should be removed from the diet.

Preservatives, hormones, unnatural additives that simply should not be in our foods.

 

[teh_pwn]

There's nothing wrong with some fructose; after all, it's what we evolved eating. It's excessive fructose that's the issue.

From what I understand, it's a matter of the absorption rate of fructose. Your liver can only remove so much from your body without adverse health effects. If you get small amounts from whole fruit which has fiber and slows down the absorption rate, you're fine because the liver can handle small amounts of long periods of time. But large amounts over a short period of time stress the liver, and removing the fructose has negative health effects on leptin and increases uric acid in the blood.

So even a soft drink is bad. Whether you're talking about 1 drink or 5 drinks, it's all just a matter of how much you're distorting your hunger. If you have sufficient willpower and exercise a lot, you'll do fine. But for most people sitting in a cubicle, it means gaining 50 calories a day, and ultimately it leads to being overweight.

 

[racerx]

is because of it's affects on the body's ph value. Your body needs to be within a range of ph values to survive. Soda is well known to be an extreme acidifier of the body. Your body has to compensate by engaging in processes to make it more alkaline such as releasing more calcium from your bones. Not only that, but the vast majority of the body's metabolic processes only work if the conditions are alkaline and not acidic.

Not always, but most of the time, the reason why you get tired out from exercising isn't because of the lack of oxygen or carbon fuel flowing in your bloodstream, but because of the buildup of acidic waste in your body, specifically lactic acid.

If anyone else is interested in ph and it's affects on health, read the following:

Reverse aging This book goes into the physiology of acid and alkaline diets and how it effects your body.

The Acid-Alkaline Food Guide: A Quick Reference to Foods & Their Effect on pH Levels

An Edgar Cayce Encyclopedia of Foods for Health and Healing

 

[teh_pwn]

Preservatives, hormones, unnatural additives that simply should not be in our foods.

I agree in an ideal world. If you want to spend the extra money on organic, you can choose to do that.

But if we forced all food to be organic, hundreds of millions would starve to death because the logistics aren't there to distribute food with short shelf life.

I think we should instead focus on eliminating preservatives, packaging and sweeteners that has a very clear and significant effect on health. I think stuff like BPA and fructose falls under that category.

If we're talking about obesity specifically, the "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" data was analyzed and showed a direct correlation between fructose and fat gain. Take out the big problems first, then identify the smaller ones and work on engineering better solutions.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

Fuck Nixon.

 

[ultim8p00]

I used to think that.

And then I watched this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM


Went from 2-3 sodas a day to 2 a week.


It talks about how for the past 30 years the government has tried to push people away from fat, but sugar is the real evil. Anyone who has done the atkins diet, or knows someone that has can attest to the real world results.

Holy shit thank you for this video. Holy shit. I mean, I cook my own food and I don't eat out often nor do I drink that much soda, but damn. Thanks for this video.

 

[sharkmuncher]

is because of it's affects on the body's ph value. Your body needs to be within a range of ph values to survive. Soda is well known to be an extreme acidifier of the body. Your body has to compensate by engaging in processes to make it more alkaline such as releasing more calcium from your bones. Not only that, but the vast majority of the body's metabolic processes only work if the conditions are alkaline and not acidic.

Not always, but most of the time, the reason why you get tired out from exercising isn't because of the lack of oxygen or carbon fuel flowing in your bloodstream, but because of the buildup of acidic waste in your body, specifically lactic acid.

If anyone else is interested in ph and it's affects on health, read the following:

Reverse aging This book goes into the physiology of acid and alkaline diets and how it effects your body.

The Acid-Alkaline Food Guide: A Quick Reference to Foods & Their Effect on pH Levels

An Edgar Cayce Encyclopedia of Foods for Health and Healing

actually, honey is considered, amongst the holistic health experts, to be pretty healthy and an ideal sweetener. It has a lot of other nutrients that aren't present in normal white sugar.

One of the biggest problems with white sugar is that it's an empty fuel. Meaning, that when you burn calories of white sugar, a whole host of co-nutrients are needed to oxidize it. And because of this, you become deficient in vitamins and co-factors your body needs.
In honey, these co-nutrients are there, so that the burn is cleaner.

If you need to sweeten something, use honey. But honey is expensive compared to white sugar.

Holistic...really? Biochemistry says otherwise. Honey contains as many empty calories as any other sugar source. The trace amounts of non-sugars have no effect on how it is processed.

and as far as the pH thing goes, your body is very strongly buffered to maintain a physiological pH and is very good at maintaining it. Most water, especially as it is exposed to air has a pH much below 7, sometimes as low as 5. It will take an insane amount of soda (most of which have a pH ~4-5) to have any effect on your body's pH.

 

[Zaptruder]

Preservatives, hormones, unnatural additives that simply should not be in our foods.

You're advocating a major life style change, and all we're hearing are buzzwords that pseudo-science folks use to scare lesser minded people into unquestioning obedience of what they preach.

The words themselves aren't a problem, but what exactly do they do? And how do they interact with the body in such a bad way? And why do so many people eat the stuff without substantial negative reprecussions?

These are questions that Sugar The Bitter Truth all demonstrated and answered extremely well... and unfortunately, even if what you're saying is right, you're not going to win anyone over to your cause by vague hogwash.

 

[BorkBork]

There's nothing wrong with some fructose; after all, it's what we evolved eating. It's excessive fructose that's the issue.

Excessive fructose out of context. Eat the whole fruit and you're good to go. Separating and consuming the juice then skipping the fibre is the problem.

 

[grumble]

To those who have watched Sugar: The Bitter Truth, read this:

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

It's a blogpost by alan aragon, a nutrition guru, saying that fructose alarmism is excessive.

He makes the point that as usual it all leads back to eating a diet made largely of minimally processed foods. He doesn't say that fructose consumption in excess is a good idea, but that in mild amounts it's fine, much like with alcohol.

As for me, I just try to eat like my caveman ancestors did, using unrefined foods, raw veggies, fruits and nuts and a fair amount of meat (I also add dairy). It seems in line with both of the sides' positions (limiting sugar intake, and limiting processed crap and excess in general without focus on fructose).

 

[sharkmuncher]

To those who have watched Sugar: The Bitter Truth, read this:

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

It's a blogpost by alan aragon, a nutrition guru, saying that fructose alarmism is excessive.

He makes the point that as usual it all leads back to eating a diet made largely of minimally processed foods. He doesn't say that fructose consumption in excess is a good idea, but that in mild amounts it's fine, much like with alcohol.

As for me, I just try to eat like my caveman ancestors did, using unrefined foods, raw veggies, fruits and nuts and a fair amount of meat (I also add dairy). It seems in line with both of the sides' positions (limiting sugar intake, and limiting processed crap and excess in general without focus on fructose).

This is a good point that is actually mention very briefly in The Bitter Truth. Whole fruit, while generally high in fructose are also generally pretty high in fiber and as borkbork stated it is the mass amount of all sugars that are added to products that otherwise don't really need them making it much easier to consume without really realizing it. Which way do you think you'll consume more sugar, eating as many bananas as you can or drinking 2L of Mt. Dew?

 

[Dogenzaka]

You're advocating a major life style change, and all we're hearing are buzzwords that pseudo-science folks use to scare lesser minded people into unquestioning obedience of what they preach.

The words themselves aren't a problem, but what exactly do they do? And how do they interact with the body in such a bad way? And why do so many people eat the stuff without substantial negative reprecussions?

These are questions that Sugar The Bitter Truth all demonstrated and answered extremely well... and unfortunately, even if what you're saying is right, you're not going to win anyone over to your cause by vague hogwash.

Please tell me you're not trying to say "additives, hormones and preservatives don't do anything to impact your health, SUGAR causes it ALL".

Because that is fucking ridiculous. They are both bad for you. We shouldn't be eating ANYTHING that our ancestors 100 years ago couldn't find in their food. That includes unnaturally added hormones, preservatives, additives and processed foods.

 

[sharkmuncher]

Please tell me you're not trying to say "additives, hormones and preservatives don't do anything to impact your health, SUGAR causes it ALL".

Because that is fucking ridiculous. They are both bad for you. We shouldn't be eating ANYTHING that our ancestors 100 years ago couldn't find in their food. That includes unnaturally added hormones, preservatives, additives and processed foods.

you should go read the jungle of you think people had perfect diets 100 years ago. No, sugar is not even close to being the only bad thing in our diets, but it is equally ignorant to bllindly assume that new=bad. On the whole, i'd wager the average person eats a healtier meal now than 100 years ago.

edit: I blame my stupid phone for any typos

 

[dimb]

We shouldn't be eating ANYTHING that our ancestors 100 years ago couldn't find in their food.

Well this ain't a good idea either.

We've been flubbin' stuff up for centuries. 100 years ago our ancestors could find lead in their food.

 

[bjork]

It would be nice to see unsweetened teas for sale. Seems like a really big potential market and give US and other beverage manufacturers a run for their money.

Tejava?

 

[Medalion]

Lots of sugar in pop = diabeetus?

No fuckin wai...

 

[npm0925]

I have a bold theory that soda may also cause cavities. More research is needed before the scientific community will accept this paradigm shifting notion.

 

[Zaptruder]

Please tell me you're not trying to say "additives, hormones and preservatives don't do anything to impact your health, SUGAR causes it ALL".

Because that is fucking ridiculous. They are both bad for you. We shouldn't be eating ANYTHING that our ancestors 100 years ago couldn't find in their food. That includes unnaturally added hormones, preservatives, additives and processed foods.

Hog-wash. Where's the science!?

Our body uses all of it in some quantities, and not all of it is reactive or bad for us. A lot of it, our body just flat out ejects with no consequences to health.

 

[elrechazado]

Hog-wash. Where's the science!?

Our body uses all of it in some quantities, and not all of it is reactive or bad for us. A lot of it, our body just flat out ejects with no consequences to health.

It's no use arguing with the enema toxin homeopathy crowd.

 

[kame-sennin]

To those who have watched Sugar: The Bitter Truth, read this:

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

It's a blogpost by alan aragon, a nutrition guru, saying that fructose alarmism is excessive.

The doctor from the video responded. Aragon details and links to the debate here:

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/02/19/a-retrospective-of-the-fructose-alarmism-debate/

 

[Mudkips]

Did you watch the video or not? It explains pretty clearly why most of what you posted is incorrect.

I don't have 90 minutes to spare on crap I've already heard.

Hilarious.
Actually, the majority of the gunk that is in the American diet likely stays caked on the lining of the bowels for years, actually putrifying within.

This is simply not true. The average American does not have x pounds of rotting beef in their colon, or whatever other bullshit statistic they're claiming.

The amount of bullshit that is just completely made up that the experts put out is shocking. That bullshit is just as much of a problem as the bad shit we put into our food.

Sugar is not bad. Fat is not bad. Cholesterol is not bad. Salt is not bad.
A normal human can consume all of these things, even in large quantities, with no negative affects. Excess consumption with no physical activity to match it is the problem.

Health nuts are on the same level as PETA.
It doesn't matter how far you go in trying to get healthy food. Those fresh organic crops have shit all over them. That healthy soy-based crap will give you cancer. Crap you grow in your own garden will leech heavy metals and other pollutants from the soil.

All food is poison. A healthy body will make use of the food and get rid of the shit (as actual shit!). Any dietary advice beyond "moderation and exercise" or "I'm your doctor, and we've determined you have condition X, and thus need to take action Y with regards to your diet" is bullshit.

 

[TheLastCandle]

All food is poison. A healthy body will make use of the food and get rid of the shit (as actual shit!). Any dietary advice beyond "moderation and exercise" or "I'm your doctor, and we've determined you have condition X, and thus need to take action Y with regards to your diet" is bullshit.

Good stuff.

 

[speculawyer]

Newsflash: People are stupid.