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Suicide Squad - Cast Photo (In Costume)

E the Shaggy

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Salsa

Member
I'm not saying fuck Marvel. I'm saying fuck their decision to abandon darker films like Blade in favor of the same shit over and over again.

Dr. Strange next year by a director whose work is basically Exorcism movies and Hellraiser

we're probably fine
 
Marvel's stories, as always, are aimed at children with their cringingly bad humor and colorful, cheap looking visual design. This is why I can't enjoy their films aside from Blade and Blade 2.

Dark and gritty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck Marvel's doing

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Eh, no.

Dark and gritty works for some characters but when you try to apply it to people like Superman it just doesn't work.
Man of Steel wasn't dark and gritty. Realistic, grounded? Sure

Dark and gritty? Did you see The Crow? Read Punisher Max?

Sometimes I feel like "dark and gritty" gets thrown out reflexively. It certainly doesnt describe Man of Steel
 

Birdman15

Banned
I'm not saying fuck Marvel. I'm saying fuck their decision to abandon darker films like Blade in favor of the same shit over and over again.

Age of Ultron was awesome though.

Marvel made Daredevil pretty damn gritty. Agents of Sheild is also fairly gritty.

Their current cast for the Avengers doesn't lend itself well to dark and grit. Iron Man, Cap, Thor, etc are serious characters but easy to translate humor with.

How Vision was handled in AoU though, you might like.

Characters like Punisher, Blade, Silver Surfer and Wolverine lend themselves to more gritty or darker stories.

Problem is, Marvel doesn't own a lot of their more dark characters like Wolverine.
 

Ithil

Member
Marvel's stories, as always, are aimed at children with their cringingly bad humor and colorful, cheap looking visual design. This is why I can't enjoy their films aside from Blade and Blade 2.

Dark and gritty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck Marvel's doing

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Man of Steel wasn't dark and gritty. Realistic, grounded? Sure

Dark and gritty? Did you see The Crow? Read Punisher Max?

Sometimes I feel like "dark and gritty" gets thrown out reflexively. It certainly doesnt describe Man of Steel

Same as "edgy" shit has no meaning anymore other than "something I don't like".
 

Sephzilla

Member
I enjoyed Man of Steel more than any Marvel film in recent memory. Marvel's "best stuff" according to the masses just doesn't impress me. Their best shit is what they forgot about (Blade). At least from what I've seen, which is pretty much everything from them including Winter Soldier, which I thought was overrated. It was decent, mostly for the opening. Stopped caring after that.

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Man of Steel wasn't even as good as Superman Returns.

There, I said it.
 

Salsa

Member
The fact that you believe this lol yeah..


that I believe that Scott Derrickson was hired? yeah I do, it's probably written in some contract

am I pissed and worried about the whole Edgar Wrigth thing and the possibility of them going with a very specific tone that spans through all the movies and grows tiresome? you betcha

but Dr.Strange is a very different, very new thing, and Feige has talked about having a horror guy behind it being the way to go, and I liked what he's done enough to still feel good about it

we'll see, but this sudden idea that I'd be dumb to believe big Marvel suit guy on a thread about fuckin Suicide Squad and somehow be excited about different big suit guy movie is hilarious

if im gonna be that cynic about it then I wouldn't get excited about anything

guess what everyone wants money and to play it safe
 

jackdoe

Member
Probably being escorted to meet Waller?
The rubble would suggest to me that it's the aftermath of a large setpiece. The only thing keeping me from saying that it's near the ending is the fact that El Diablo and Slipknot are still alive.

And holy crap at the DC/Marvel bickering. It's the same repeat offenders over and over again.
 

Salsa

Member
I think I can get people enjoying Man of Steel, I certainly don't, and I think it's a fucking horrendous film, but I guess I get how someone might think it's good?

what's hard for me, and hey, opinions, is understanding how someone who really loves Superman loves that film, beyond watching him on a big screen

that movie does not get Superman at all. That's what worries me about this whole Snyder bidness

but hey this is Suicide Squad which seems to be a WB show on the big screen and people enjoy those
 

Penguin

Member
We can't just be tossing terrible opinions around (on both sides)

And we really should just have a Marvel/DC dick-measuring thread so everyone can get their comments out of their system!

And I know set-pics from one scene, but seems like SS will be 2 hours of everyone walking the streets of Toronto
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Man of Steel wasn't dark and gritty. Realistic, grounded? Sure

Dark and gritty? Did you see The Crow? Read Punisher Max?

Sometimes I feel like "dark and gritty" gets thrown out reflexively. It certainly doesnt describe Man of Steel

Superman certainly looks dark and gritty in the poster for batman v superman
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
that I believe that Scott Derrickson was hired? yeah I do, it's probably written in some contract

but Dr.Strange is a very different, very new thing, and Feige has talked about having a horror guy behind it being the way to go, and I liked what he's done enough to still feel good about it

I think the guy was a great choice by Marvel, because there is nothing about Sinister that suggests he's an auteur who'd cross Marvel. He's shown me nothing that suggests a classic, or good, film, but he's going to play ball and make the film they want him to make.
 

Salsa

Member
I think the guy was a great choice by Marvel, because there is nothing about Sinister that suggests he's an auteur who'd cross Marvel. He's shown me nothing that suggests a classic, or good, film, but he's going to play ball and make the film they want him to make.

well if we're gonna discuss the innards of the business as if we had any idea what truly goes on with these films then let's speculate to this silly level, sure

this is some kojima/konami levels of people figuring out companies based on very little info / track record and just pure fandom

truth is we wouldnt even have this movie if it wasnt for Kevin Feige and I decide to give the studio some leverage still. we'll see how Dr. Strange turns out


edit: to clarify; im not targeting you specifically with the comment, just saying we can all be really cynic and go the "they just wanna make toys no one gives a shit" route and ultimately it'd be true to any of these films
 

Penguin

Member
I think I can get people enjoying Man of Steel, I certainly don't, and I think it's a fucking horrendous film, but I guess I get how someone might think it's good?

what's hard for me, and hey, opinions, is understanding how someone who really loves Superman loves that film, beyond watching him on a big screen

that movie does not get Superman at all. That's what worries me about this whole Snyder bidness

but hey this is Suicide Squad which seems to be a WB show on the big screen and people enjoy those

This is an odd one, but to me it wasn't a "Superman movie"

It was the story of how this man decided that he wants to become a superhero and ultimately becomes Superman.

It doesn't "get" Superman because he really isn't Superman until the end of the film. It's an origin story done after they put on the costume.

How does he establish that he wants to help people... what causes him to not kill... what forces him to use his powers at certain times... those are questions... to me anyhow that I feel the movie left at and will be (fingers crossed) addressed in BvS when he should be Superman
 

Sephzilla

Member
You went there, oh shit.

I like both if I'm honest. They're both different ish takes on Superman and I'm cool with that.

They both have their pros and cons. Superman Returns has a more entertaining villain with Spacey's Luthor (Zod is boring). Man of Steel proves that live action DBZ can work (i consider that a pro).

Isn't the RT score for Returns noticeably higher than MoS?
 

Salsa

Member
This is an odd one, but to me it wasn't a "Superman movie"

It was the story of how this man decided that he wants to become a superhero and ultimately becomes Superman.

It doesn't "get" Superman because he really isn't Superman until the end of the film. It's an origin story done after they put on the costume.

How does he establish that he wants to help people... what causes him to not kill... what forces him to use his powers at certain times... those are questions... to me anyhow that I feel the movie left at and will be (fingers crossed) addressed in BvS when he should be Superman

but remember just another day at the office with clark and buds! /last scene
 

Tabby

Member
They both have their pros and cons. Superman Returns has a more entertaining villain with Spacey's Luthor (Zod is boring). Man of Steel proves that live action DBZ can work (i consider that a pro).

Isn't the RT score for Returns noticeably higher than MoS?
Opinions I suppose, I never did like real estate Luthor.
I find it funny how people complained about no action with Superman Returns but too much action with Man of Steel, there's no winning.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Opinions I suppose, I never did like real estate Luthor.
I find it funny how people complained about no action with Superman Returns but too much action with Man of Steel, there's no winning.

I'm honestly not a big fan of real estate Luthor either, but Spacey played him way better than Hackman did. Superman TAS Luthor is best Luthor.
 
Harsh Times , Street Kings , Sabotage are hack material. Fury is a schlocky war movie.

End of Watch is enjoyable.

We are talking about David Ayer right ?

I didn't like Street Kings at all and I'm not even sure what Sabotage is (don't hurt me). He may be faulted for delving into corrupt police antics more than he should. The well can run dry on LA "cop life" and maybe that's what the Sabotage movie is about too. Harsh Times is similar in concept to Training Day and yet shows the corrupted and troubled cop in a different manner. End of Watch put a new spin on what he likes to do and the story does many different things. I haven't seen Fury yet, but from what I remember seeing it looks very much like it's aiming for a classic 60's Hollywood war film look.
 
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