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[faridmon]

Wow, K-on fans talking about cinematogrophy and some Danielplainview-like talk here...

now, i have seen everything.

 

[jman2050]

Wow, K-on fans talking about cinematogrophy and some Danielplainview-like talk here...

now, i have seen everything.

Eh, that's not "K-On fans" really, it's just 7th's shtick in general.

 

[Vox-Pop]

Wow, K-on fans talking about cinematogrophy and some Danielplainview-like talk here...

now, i have seen everything.

Are you sure? K-On! also has the cutest cast ever in an anime. No one character in the K-On! world is presented as ugly. They pretty much live in a perfect world of cuteness and happiness. It's also a really safe show with no boys allowed.

 

[Jintor]

Dang graphics whores...

It's not like the content itself is actually offensive or anything :lol

For what it is, it's brilliant. If you don't like what it is, you're never going to like it, basically.

(Though i certainly wouldn't go so far as to call it 'the greatest anime of all time' )

 

[jman2050]

Are you sure? K-On! also has the cutest cast ever in an anime. No one character in the K-On! world is presented as ugly. They pretty much live in a perfect world of cuteness and happiness.

Wrong again!

 

[Unknown Soldier]

So wait.... K-On is actually good? I really thought this was all a part of some elaborate group troll. :lol

Dude 4chan is that way ------------->

Everyone here has been serious about it, for or against.

K-ON!(!) is genuinely good in the sense that the staff is rather talented and it really shows in the elaborate scene composition and the very fun and surprisingly loose naturalistic animation. You sure could say it is essentially "content-less", but I don't think that make it any less enjoyable or well-made.

The whole point of a slice-of-life show like K-ON is the lack of some kind of overarching storyline about saving the world for the 1,664,195th time from some dormant evil which has been dormant for exactly 10,000 years but is about to wake up and lay waste to all creation.

It's well-animated, but it's not good. It's the moe equivalent of soft-core pornography.

Spoken like someone who's obviously never seen the show and who has no idea what he's talking about.

Are you sure? K-On! also has the cutest cast ever in an anime. No one character in the K-On! world is presented as ugly. They pretty much live in a perfect world of cuteness and happiness. It's also a really safe show with no boys allowed.

It's because boys are dirty and have herpes.

(Though i certainly wouldn't go so far as to call it 'the greatest anime of all time' )

It's not the greatest anime of all time. Is it in the top 5 all time so far? Yes, absolutely. I don't rank animes and I don't even have a detailed list of favorites the way Jex does, but if I did have a top 5 all time, K-ON would be in it.

 

[faridmon]

Are you sure? K-On! also has the cutest cast ever in an anime. No one character in the K-On! world is presented as ugly. They pretty much live in a perfect world of cuteness and happiness. It's also a really safe show with no boys allowed.

i beg to differ:

 

[Branduil]

The animation isn't the only thing good about K-ON!(!); the cinematography is excellent, the naturalistic lighting is way above the typical overly shiny KyoAni fluff, and the direction and scene composition are fun and very detailed. I personally think something as thoughtfully executed deserves to called "good", but that's just me.

Yes, it's well-produced. It still lacks content, with no humor, plot, or believable character development. It's completely vapid. Now, it's not actively offensive like Lucky Star, which in addition to being vapid pandered grossly to its audience. But it's still not good.

 

[faridmon]

Yes, it's well-produced. It still lacks content, with no humor, plot, or believable character development. It's completely vapid. Now, it's not actively offensive like Lucky Star, which in addition to being vapid pandered grossly to its audience. But it's still not good.

anything that takes the mick out of Gundam and thier fans is a plus in my book.
Thats why I regard Maria Holic highly as well.

 

[Vox-Pop]

Wrong again!

Every time I look at Azumanga I think to myself that a Yostube manga would be amazing. BELIEVE.

Chiyo-chan doesn't hold a candle to Yui. That cast just looks awkward and uncool. They aren't even in a band. Pokemon had some ugly looking pokemon if I remember correctly. Pikachu is kinda cute though.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

i beg to differ:

Pikachu is not the entire cast of Pokemon, though.

 

[Branduil]

Wrong again!

The thing that makes Azumanga good as opposed to things like K-on and Lucky Star is that it focuses on comedy, the cuteness is just a secondary feature. That, and while the characters are obviously stereotypes, they're stereotypes that at least behave somewhat believably. Okay, maybe not Kimura, but he's still hilarious. The characters in K-on and Lucky Star feel like they were crafted by a computer program designed to elicit maximum moe and money from otaku.

Spoken like someone who's obviously never seen the show and who has no idea what he's talking about.

I've watched several episodes.

 

[Proelite]

So, the biggest question of the week, is:

did they do it or not?

Spoiler

HSOTD

 

[Unknown Soldier]

So, the biggest question of the week, is:

did they do it or not?

Spoiler

HSOTD

That depends on whether you believe the anime is canonical, or the manga.

Spoiler

They clearly did not do it in the manga.

 

[Proelite]

That depends on whether you believe the anime is canonical, or the manga.

Spoiler

They clearly did not do it in the manga.

Implying that they clearly did it in the anime?

 

[jman2050]

The thing that makes Azumanga good as opposed to things like K-on and Lucky Star is that it focuses on comedy, the cuteness is just a secondary feature. That, and while the characters are obviously stereotypes, they're stereotypes that at least behave somewhat believably. Okay, maybe not Kimura, but he's still hilarious. The characters in K-on and Lucky Star feel like they were crafted by a computer program designed to elicit maximum moe and money from otaku.

This is because, shockingly enough, Azuma can actually write. It's unbelievable, I know, but there you go.

 

[Jerk]

Yes, it's well-produced. It still lacks content, with no humor, plot, or believable character development. It's completely vapid. Now, it's not actively offensive like Lucky Star, which in addition to being vapid pandered grossly to its audience. But it's still not good.

Very much so.

Still enjoyable though (If one does not find moe to be too repulsive).

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Implying that they clearly did it in the anime?

It's strongly implied in the anime, whereas it's completely not implied even the slightest bit in the manga. I personally hope that the Sato brothers take the anime as a big hint that the canonical pairing SHOULD BE Takashi + Saeko even though no pairing of any sort has occurred in the manga yet.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I've watched several episodes.

I watched the NBA Finals once, and I know that Kobe has 5 rings and Dirk has 0. Therefore, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kobe is a better basketball player than Dirk.

Do you see the fallacy here?

 

[Vox-Pop]

So any ideas on the title for the fall 2010 anime thread?

There really isn't that much of a story difference from Azumanga to K-On!

 

[jman2050]

I watched the NBA Finals once, and I know that Kobe has 5 rings and Dirk has 0. Therefore, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kobe is a better basketball player than Dirk.

...but Kobe is better than Dirk. By quite a lot too.

Do you intentionally come up with the worst analogies possible to support your position just to troll us?

There really isn't that much of a story difference from Azumanga to K-On!

Which just further highlights how Azumanga executed the concept so much better.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

So any ideas on the title for the fall 2010 anime thread?

I thought 7th posted awhile back that he had already finished the Fall thread OP and was waiting for the mods to let him create it.

...but Kobe is better than Dirk. By quite a lot too.

Do you intentionally come up with the worst analogies possible to support your position just to troll us?

Dude, you're talking to someone who doesn't actually watch or know anything about the NBA. My point was that he equated having watched several episodes to knowing fuck-all about K-ON and by extension moe in general. That was all I was going for there, I've never actually seen Kobe or Dirk play a whole game on TV nor do I know (or care) who the better basketball player is.

 

[Vox-Pop]

I watched the NBA Finals once, and I know that Kobe has 5 rings and Dirk has 0. Therefore, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kobe is a better basketball player than Dirk.

Do you see the fallacy here?

??????

Which just further highlights how Azumanga executed the concept so much better

I don't get it?

 

[Branduil]

I watched the NBA Finals once, and I know that Kobe has 5 rings and Dirk has 0. Therefore, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kobe is a better basketball player than Dirk.

Do you see the fallacy here?

Apparently watching all of K-on forces people to make mind-numbingly inapplicable analogies. Seriously, that analogy is so far removed from a workable one that I cannot fathom what is being compared or how the pieces are supposed to connect.

I believe I watched a sufficient percentage to understand the show. It's not like K-on has character arcs or a plot, so the show does not vary dramatically from one episode to the next.

This is because, shockingly enough, Azuma can actually write. It's unbelievable, I know, but there you go.

And in Yotsubato he's actually gotten better. If a Yotsubato anime ever gets made, it will be so amazing that it will actually go back in time and cause a number of the worst anime to never exist.

 

[AfroLuffy]

I'm currently watching, and enjoying, this show. This is way too big of a coincidence.

I hope you enjoy it. I saw the show posted on Star Crossed Anime Blog and decided to check it out (I go there for the pictures lol).

I just finished watching The Rose of Versailles and reading Claudine recently so more Riyoko Ikeda is welcome.

Awesome. I'll likely start Rose of Versailles soon myself, since I can't find any other old Dezaki works to watch. Ikeda and Dezaki seem like a good combination, if Oniisama e is anything to go on.

 

[Vox-Pop]

Apparently watching all of K-on forces people to make mind-numbingly inapplicable analogies. Seriously, that analogy is so far removed from a workable one that I cannot fathom what is being compared or how the pieces are supposed to connect.

I believe I watched a sufficient percentage to understand the show. It's not like K-on has character arcs or a plot, so the show does not vary dramatically from one episode to the next.



And in Yotsubato he's actually gotten better. If a Yotsubato anime ever gets made, it will be so amazing that it will actually go back in time and cause a number of the worst anime to never exist.

But it does have a plot. It concerns the band, high school and college/future. It's a coming of age story. They have to deal with the hardships of tests, band practice, and if they should continue the band or go to school. The girls are just trying to find their place in the world.

 

[jman2050]

And in Yotsubato he's actually gotten better. If a Yotsubato anime ever gets made, it will be so amazing that it will actually go back in time and cause a number of the worst anime to never exist.

I actually fear it cause I can imagine 90% of the current anime companies botching the source material horribly. I'm even mildly hesitant about JC Staff reprising their role since it's been eight years and they're probably not the same company from then.

 

[Branduil]

But it does have a plot. It concerns the band, high school and college/future. It's a coming of age story. They have to deal with the hardships of tests, band practice, and if they should continue the band or go to school. The girls are just trying to find their place in the world.

That's not really a plot, and I doubt the idea is explored in great detail.

I wouldn't say Azumanga has a plot either.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

That's not really a plot, and I doubt the idea is explored in great detail.

I wouldn't say Azumanga has a plot either.

Okay, this is not a trick question: Have you actually watched more than a few episodes of Azumanga?

 

[Proelite]

It's strongly implied in the anime, whereas it's completely not implied even the slightest bit in the manga. I personally hope that the Sato brothers take the anime as a big hint that the canonical pairing SHOULD BE Takashi + Saeko even though no pairing of any sort has occurred in the manga yet.

I certainly hope that Sato brothers do keep up with fan feedback because Saeko shippers outnumber everyone else 10 to 1 (no evidence to back this up).

 

[Branduil]

Okay, this is not a trick question: Have you actually watched more than a few episodes of Azumanga?

I've seen all of twice.

 

[Vox-Pop]

That's not really a plot, and I doubt the idea is explored in great detail.

I wouldn't say Azumanga has a plot either.

What's your definition of a plot? A group of girls going to school-although it would be considered unoriginal-is still a plot.

 

[jman2050]

I guess "go to high school, make friends, do stuff together" might strictly count as a plot, but I'm pretty sure that's not the spirit of Branduil's comments.

 

[Branduil]

What's your definition of a plot? A group of girls going to school-although it would be considered unoriginal-is still a plot.

That's not plot, it's setting.

I don't see why this is controversial, the entire idea of slice-of-life is philosophically opposed to traditional plot structure.

All plots contain events, but events are not plot.

 

[7Th]

Awesome. I'll likely start Rose of Versailles soon myself, since I can't find any other old Dezaki works to watch. Ikeda and Dezaki seem like a good combination, if Oniisama e is anything to go on.

Dezaki only directed the second half of RoV, though.

 

[Vox-Pop]

That's not plot, it's setting.

I don't see why this is controversial, the entire idea of slice-of-life is philosophically opposed to traditional plot structure.

All plots contain events, but events are not plot.

I don't think that correct, but whatever.

I just noticed your tag and why Soldier made that random basketball comment.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I've seen all of twice.

All right, just checking. Carry on, then. Although if you bothered to watch more than a few episodes of K-ON you would find that structurally they are very similar, they follow a group of girls as they go through their 3 years of Japanese high school. The difference is that Azumanga is considerably more zany and comedy-focused, but K-ON has way, way better music. You might even find that with their similarities you could actually enjoy K-ON if you just opened your mind a little bit, because right now it's closed more tightly than a bank vault.

 

[duckroll]

I thought 7th posted awhile back that he had already finished the Fall thread OP and was waiting for the mods to let him create it.

This has to be a lie though, how can he have finished the thread when some shows don't even have confirmed air dates yet.

 

[Jerk]

All right, just checking. Carry on, then. Although if you bothered to watch more than a few episodes of K-ON you would find that structurally they are very similar, they follow a group of girls as they go through their 3 years of Japanese high school. The difference is that Azumanga is considerably more zany and comedy-focused, but K-ON has way, way better music.

And less creepy art.

 

[Vox-Pop]

This has to be a lie though, how can he have finished the thread when some shows don't even have confirmed air dates yet.

I think he just asked for permission.

 

[Branduil]

All right, just checking. Carry on, then. Although if you bothered to watch more than a few episodes of K-ON you would find that structurally they are very similar, they follow a group of girls as they go through their 3 years of Japanese high school. The difference is that Azumanga is considerably more zany and comedy-focused, but K-ON has way, way better music. You might even find that with their similarities you could actually enjoy K-ON if you just opened your mind a little bit, because right now it's closed more tightly than a bank vault.

If my mind was closed I wouldn't have watched any of it. Notice I never said K-on was terrible.

And less creepy art.

Not sure what you mean by that.

 

[7Th]

This has to be a lie though, how can he have finished the thread when some shows don't even have confirmed air dates yet.

I have the summaries and pictures ready, I mean. Besides, the shows that matter already have their air dates confirmed.

 

[duckroll]

I have the summaries and pictures ready, I mean. Besides, the shows that matter already have their air dates confirmed.

Really... So does Star Driver start on the 3rd of October, or the 10th of October?

 

[7Th]

Really... So does Star Driver start on the 3rd of October, or the 10th of October?

October 10th, right after SenBa 2 ends... right?

 

[duckroll]

October 10th, right after SenBa 2 ends... right?

So SenBa2 is 13 episodes? Source?

 

[Deadly]

I'm going to miss K-ON when it's gone =(

 

[7Th]

So SenBa2 is 13 episodes? Source?

How about this: when NewType October hits the streets and we know SD's official air date, you'll let me create the fall season thread!

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Really... So does Star Driver start on the 3rd of October, or the 10th of October?

You really do have a lot of faith in BONES, don't you? Especially since Star Driver is going to be a mecha show, and we know BONES's history with those.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Driver:_Kagayaki_no_Takuto

Just look at the plot description. LOOK AT IT.

This story takes place on an island named Southern Cross Isle. One night, a boy named Takuto washed up on shore, after having swum from the mainland. He later, enrolls in Southern Cross High School as a senior and makes new friends. However, underneath the school, are these mysterious giants called Cybuddies. There are about 20 of these giants, and they are just some of the various secrets kept by everyone on the island: The secret movements of the mysterious organization known as "Kirahoshi Juujidan", the songs of the shrine maidens. Takuto himself will soon come to embrace a great secret.

It looks to me a lot like Xam'd combined with Code Geass for the most ultimate trainwreck in mecha anime history!

However it seems that Lelouch himself, Lightning, and Azunyan are doing VAs for this series, so I'll at least have to watch the first couple of episodes and see if Lelouch tries to Geass Lightning and Azunyan. :lol

 

[duckroll]

How about this: when NewType October hits the streets and we know SD's official air date, you'll let me create the fall season thread!

Erm, no. The Fall thread starts when the season starts. There is no reason to have another thread just to continue talking about shows which are currently airing.

Edit: Hey Unknown Soldier, eat shit!

 

[Vox-Pop]

I'm going to miss K-ON when it's gone =(

It's the only sane thing to do.

When does the new season start?