jack_package_200
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Fuck no I am not cleaning it up. They are hiring a cleaning crew (and charging it to my roomie's name) to clean the place up.
I am back for day 13 at my mom's place.
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Super Best Friends Thread 8: "You know, we really are the Super Best Friends Play"
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Fuck no I am not cleaning it up. They are hiring a cleaning crew (and charging it to my roomie's name) to clean the place up.
I am back for day 13 at my mom's place.
misses bull
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He said DMC, not DmC.
read the context.
We were talking about if an opinion can be wrong a few pages ago. This is an example of a wrong opinion.
^^^He said DMC, not DmC.
We were talking about if an opinion can be wrong a few pages ago. This is an example of a wrong opinion.
But it's not. DMC is great.
Snapshot King
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I'm anxious and fearful of the Bloodborne review thread that'll pop up in the future. Miyazaki fucking up a souls game is highly improbable, but any issues that are addressed will either enrage Souls fans and cause a bloodbath where some people will want to burn down IGN's headquarters. Or some will claim that the Souls series peaked with Dark Souls 1 or Demon Souls and that Bloodborne is a terrible game.
Or I'll be wrong and there will be a nice, even, middle ground.
Who cares. People've screamed bloody murder about reviews since forever. Most people use reviews nowadays not as buying guides, but as purchase justifiers.
We were talking about if an opinion can be wrong a few pages ago. This is an example of a wrong opinion.
What DMC games have you played again?
Here's the thing though. You wanna compare DS2? You don't JUST compare it to it's own franchise. You compare it to the entire gaming landscape at the time of it's release. DS2, despite its huge flaws, is still likely my GOTY because it was so much better than almost anything else I played the entire year. It's absurd for me then to say the game is a 7/10, but the best, compared to other games I'd rate as 9s.
Pretty much, the only other things I have wanted to play as badly as DS2 this year aside from MGS, were Vampire Bloodlines (2004) and Arcanum (2001), that says a lot to me.
In SUPER off topic news: for some reasons chest hole sweaters are now a thing.. weird spike of art of it..
edit: i guess it's old.. just popped up recently.. on boorus.. :l oh well.
edit: i guess it's old.. just popped up recently.. on boorus.. :l oh well.
Fuck no I am not cleaning it up. They are hiring a cleaning crew (and charging it to my roomie's name) to clean the place up.
I am back for day 13 at my mom's place.
Ah, that sounds like a relief. I'd be incredibly butthurt if I had to clean that mess.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Don't buy anything released in 2014.
Dude, it's no longer fun trying to play a guessing game whether or not the 60 dollar entertainment product I just bought is stable enough to play.
IDKAboutThat
Member
The comparison I've come up with is that episode 4 of Gurren Lagann is shitty and hard to watch. But that's because it's part of Gurren Lagann. It's not anywhere near as bad as the worst anime has to offer, and it only feels like it is because it's Kamina and Simon, goddammit, and they deserve better. OFC, TTGL Episode 4 is hot garbage compared to a lot of things, so it's not a perfect example.Here's the thing though. You wanna compare DS2? You don't JUST compare it to it's own franchise. You compare it to the entire gaming landscape at the time of it's release. DS2, despite its huge flaws, is still likely my GOTY because it was so much better than almost anything else I played the entire year. It's absurd for me then to say the game is a 7/10, but the best, compared to other games I'd rate as 9s.
jack_package_200
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Who cares. People've screamed bloody murder about reviews since forever. Most people use reviews nowadays not as buying guides, but as purchase justifiers.
I hate those people. I really do.
No one gives a fuck if a game you like got good reviews.
Like with most things, you need balance but you're never going to have a "perfect" review system. It can be improved sure, but you'll always have to take them with a grain of salt.
Honestly though if someone does an in depth review of a game, and then a major patch is released or fixes are made later, that review should be updated to reflect the changes made, because the previous review is now moot.
And if you aren't dedicated enough to do that, get another job pls.
I definitely agree, but people usually don't have/can't afford the time for that sort of love and dedication to games these days sadly.
skLaFarebear
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It does a lot of things wrong, but I think overtime, as I've come to terms with Dark Souls 2, I appreciate it for what it is a little more as time goes on.
I'm sure somewhere down the line the game will grow on me like an annoying little brother, but right now I'm still burnt out on its faults.
Here's the thing though. You wanna compare DS2? You don't JUST compare it to it's own franchise. You compare it to the entire gaming landscape at the time of it's release. DS2, despite its huge flaws, is still likely my GOTY because it was so much better than almost anything else I played the entire year. It's absurd for me then to say the game is a 7/10, but the best, compared to other games I'd rate as 9s.
Then its easily one of the greatest games of the year, no question. Much better than games in its remote genre. But I just can't see it as a great game when those other games do exist. They took one step forward, but two steps back with everything they did in that game and in the same vein as your comparisons to other games of this year, I can't justify giving it like a 9. Not when they had multiple chances to build on what's right and follow a blueprint and fucked up. I can't reward that with such a good score.
RecursiveFault
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Christ you guys, you really had to have a stupid discussion about porn while a serious one is going on? I get doing it when you're bored and nothing's happening, but come the fuck on.
Why?
In SUPER off topic news: for some reasons chest hole sweaters are now a thing.. weird spike of art of it..
Why?
because the previous review is now moot.
It's like a cow's opinion.
IDKAboutThat
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In SUPER off topic news: for some reasons chest hole sweaters are now a thing.. weird spike of art of it..
Put 'em on hot dudes, that'd be awesome. Also, horrifically impractical for real weather.
ArclightBorealis
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I just know that Bloodborne will have as much in common with the Souls series as Shadow Tower does to King's Field, which is already less than one would think. And for that, it better be judged on its own merits.I'm anxious and fearful of the Bloodborne review thread that'll pop up in the future. Miyazaki fucking up a souls game is highly improbable, but any issues that are addressed will either enrage Souls fans and cause a bloodbath where some people will want to burn down IGN's headquarters. Or some will claim that the Souls series peaked with Dark Souls 1 or Demon Souls and that Bloodborne is a terrible game.
Or I'll be wrong and there will be a nice, even, middle ground.
jack_package_200
Banned
Ah, that sounds like a relief. I'd be incredibly butthurt if I had to clean that mess.
I'm butthurt regardless.
I don't get why he did it. They have his information like his social security # and shit. They will destroy his credit if he does not pay up.
VidulaSaix
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Dude, it's no longer fun trying to play a guessing game whether or not the 60 dollar entertainment product I just bought is stable enough to play.
That's why I personally look at streams before I buy a game. Sure I might get slightly spoiled, but I know what I'm buying without being colored by fancy words from a review.
misses bull
Banned
What DMC games have you played again?
Only 4 and read the context
In SUPER off topic news: for some reasons chest hole sweaters are now a thing.. weird spike of art of it..
edit: i guess it's old.. just popped up recently.. on boorus.. :l oh well.
You're right. I was on tumblr and I was going through my dashboard and I just saw tons of holey sweaters. I like it
Ultimate_Trainer
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I believe since there is no overarching "complex" story tied to it, its way more interesting than a David Cage game. It's like Night Trap in a way. It's more in the moment of trying to survive in a horror movie. Actually, it takes the tropes from horror movies and embodies them into video game form, so you can't talk smack about her decisions like when discussing horror movies.Hey, why was Until Dawn a ton more interesting then anything David Cage could do?
I'm butthurt regardless.
I don't get why he did it. They have his information like his social security # and shit. They will destroy his credit if he does not pay up.
Because people are crazy.
It's like a cow's opinion.
Oh my god. Another Friends fan?
I had nothing to do with it too! I'm innocent!Christ you guys, you really had to have a stupid discussion about porn while a serious one is going on? I get doing it when you're bored and nothing's happening, but come the fuck on.
Why?
Oh I can see how it sounded like I was saying a bad thing, but I didn't mean it like that. My badOnly 4 and read the context
RecursiveFault
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I just know that Bloodborne will have as much in common with the Souls series as Shadow Tower does to King's Field, which is already less than one would think. And for that, it better be judged on its own merits.
I'm really excited that Bloodborne is gonna be a really fast spinoff. People are gonna judge it like a Souls-successor, but I'm really happy to see a new take on the basic concept.
Christ you guys, you really had to have a stupid discussion about porn while a serious one is going on? I get doing it when you're bored and nothing's happening, but come the fuck on.
Why?
No reason.. i probably shouldn't have brought it up... It's not porn though?
Put 'em on hot dudes, that'd be awesome. Also, horrifically impractical for real weather.
Very impractical.
You're right. I was on tumblr and I was going through my dashboard and I just saw tons of holey sweaters. I like it
Something spurred them.. maybe the weather? Who knows..
DoktorEvil
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Yeah so am I. It does seem to be mostly AAA games that do this however, I assume because they can get away with it and to keep up with that annual release.
But why do we gamers keep doing this to ourselves?
I don't want to be sold on trailers or stock game footage and get unstable dogshit day 1! I want the finished product! That shit was less acceptable when your console wasn't always online 24/7.
Oh my god. Another Friends fan?
Friends is super popular so I wouldn't doubt there being a bunch in this thread.
Like with most things, you need balance but you're never going to have a "perfect" review system. It can be improved sure, but you'll always have to take them with a grain of salt.
Honestly though if someone does an in depth review of a game, and then a major patch is released or fixes are made later, that review should be updated to reflect the changes made, because the previous review is now moot.
And if you aren't dedicated enough to do that, get another job pls.
I disagree. If a game comes out with bugs then they should be reflected in the review. 10 years later when people look back they wont read reviews. Let's look at VTMB as an example. People play that now because its a great game with the patches, no one reads the reviews and goes "oh shit it's a buggy mess". Reviews become redundant over time when you can just ask someone about the game instead.
RoyaleDuke
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I'm plenty calm, I just get all passiony. It's mainly because of the phrase agree to disagree. When someone says that they'll have to agree to disagree, well, I can also choose not to agree to disagree. I disagree that we disagree. We're not disagree-ing, you're just wrong. It's fine that your wrong, and it doesn't make you a bad person, but like, I don't see this as a matter of opinion where agreement can solve it. You're just wrong. That being said, I'll just be cautious in the upcoming parts. I really, really want to like this game, and I guess that's why it's depressing me. I want so bad for it to be great, and I can see greatness in it, but boy is it god damn rushed. It's fucked up. Makes me sad.
Pat, this is why I like watching you and the guys play games is because you guys can see the bullshit.
You can see it.
Who cares. People've screamed bloody murder about reviews since forever. Most people use reviews nowadays not as buying guides, but as purchase justifiers.
I treat review threads like they're a spectacle, going back and going through the Uncharted 3 review thread is always a sad and comical treat.
And you're right, reviews are purchase justifiers for the majority of people. For people that engage in a lot of B tier titles reviews don't matter at all. Nier and Deadly Premonition are two of my favorite games last gen, and they're viewed as weird, janky garbage games. I don't hold grudges for reviewers that felt that way, because those games weren't created for everybody in mind.
Hell, being a fan of Resident Evil 6 has taught me that taste and preferences really do exist. Taste doesn't mean "I value the good things" necessarily, it could mean that some people seek out very different things compared to other people.
Christ you guys, you really had to have a stupid discussion about porn while a serious one is going on? I get doing it when you're bored and nothing's happening, but come the fuck on.
Why?
Because human sexuality is fascinating and a perfectly natural part of life that shouldn't be demonized?
SO LEWD
jack_package_200
Banned
Because people are crazy.
Fucking hell. Fuck him. I wish him the absolute worst.
My mother wants me to get a studio elsewhere but that shit is like $1000+ rent per month
I don't have that kind of money.
skLaFarebear
Member
But why do we gamers keep doing this to ourselves?
I don't want to be sold on trailers or stock game footage and get unstable dogshit day 1! I want the finished product! That shit was less acceptable when your console wasn't always online 24/7.
Games are way harder to make then they were back then and publishers want it now! now! now! Its not fair to put all the blame on the developers, unless when its specifically their fault.
IDKAboutThat
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Only 4 and read the context
Just read the context.
Abu, if you don't like amazing FPSs, that's your stupid. But HL is incredibly well-made.
RecursiveFault
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Reviews are just day one impressions. Treating them with any more weight than a writeup by a joe schmoe isn't gonna make anyone happy.
Nah, your thing is just super off topic. I just think it's a little inappopriate when there's so much other discussion going on, but maybe that's just me.
No reason.. i probably shouldn't have brought it up... It's not porn though?
Nah, your thing is just super off topic. I just think it's a little inappopriate when there's so much other discussion going on, but maybe that's just me.
I just wanna talk about vidyagamez thoBecause human sexuality is fascinating and a perfectly natural part of life that shouldn't be demonized?
SO LEWD
Because human sexuality is fascinating and a perfectly natural part of life that shouldn't be demonized?
SO LEWD
and completely irrelevant to the thread
I DON'T CARE BOUT NO DAMN CONTEXTread the context.
Just read the context.
Abu, if you don't like amazing FPSs, that's your stupid. But HL is incredibly well-made.
Remember when Half-Life 2 came out in an in-completable state? That was rough, it's really polished now though 10 years later.
misses bull
Banned
Reviews are just day one impressions. Treating them with any more weight than a writeup by a joe schmoe isn't gonna make anyone happy.
Reviews aren't the problem, people over reacting and going "WHAT HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT A GAME THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED YET!" Also the fact that no one actually reads them and they just end up reading the summary near the score.
skLaFarebear
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Reviews feel so pointless to me personally. Like I LOVE giant bomb and their content, but I wouldn't touch any of their reviews with a 10 foot stick. I'd much rather hear their thoughts on the game in a quick look, or especially on the bombcast when they go into detail about what they thought after they finished it, without talking about their score.
RecursiveFault
Banned
and completely irrelevant to the thread
Yeah. Everyone posts irrelevant things all the time, so it's fair, just, like I said, don't do it when it's cluttering up real discussion.
I disagree. If a game comes out with bugs then they should be reflected in the review. 10 years later when people look back they wont read reviews. Let's look at VTMB as an example. People play that now because its a great game with the patches, no one reads the reviews and goes "oh shit it's a buggy mess". Reviews become redundant over time when you can just ask someone about the game instead.
I didnt say it shouldnt be reflected?
Obviously the initial review should mention any issues. But if they care enough to make fixes or release a major patch in a reasonable amount of time, those initial reviews have been nullified within a relatively short amount of time as well.
I'll use a dumb example that makes my point. People were pissed Sims4 didnt have pools. Sims4 now does have pools, and this happened within a few months of release. Therefore the lack of pools shouldnt have any bearing on current reviews.
Yeah. Everyone posts irrelevant things all the time, so it's fair, just, like I said, don't do it when it's cluttering up real discussion.
When things are dead I get it but we were more on topic than we had been in a while.
DoktorEvil
Banned
That's why I personally look at streams before I buy a game. Sure I might get slightly spoiled, but I know what I'm buying without being colored by fancy words from a review.
What bothers me is how radically different a game can be from day 1 to last day of server support.
Last gen had too many games that were broken out the box, but we should be at the point where the product ready to shipped isn't requiring a day 1 update.
Master Chief Collection not having proper working matchmaking is dogshit unacceptable!
Thinking about these things just pisses me the fuck off!!!!
RecursiveFault
Banned
When things are dead I get it but we were more on topic than we had been in a while.
Exactly.
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