Shamrock7r
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Ahaha perfect teamwork
edit: GGs guys
edit: GGs guys
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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NamikazeBurst
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I can't play in that lag.
Anonymous Tipster
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Yeah it was a little rough, but good games gents.
I liked the giant Mario crushing Lucas' legs ending
I liked the giant Mario crushing Lucas' legs ending
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
That was exactly as planned.
GGs everyone, i'm tired of shenanigans and tired of playing in a warm room without AC. Fancy 75 cent K. Rool Mii you got there Shamrock, hope it was worth every penny.
I showed you guys who can't play Fox in lag and it sure wasn't me. :T
GGs everyone, i'm tired of shenanigans and tired of playing in a warm room without AC. Fancy 75 cent K. Rool Mii you got there Shamrock, hope it was worth every penny.
I showed you guys who can't play Fox in lag and it sure wasn't me. :T
Shamrock7r
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MaverickHunterAsh
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Man, I've got to stop underestimating Ike and Bowser. They're both great matchups for Mega Man and I usually beat them without much trouble, but they've been surprising me lately... I got kicked around by an amazing Ike online yesterday and a great Bowser main at a party I went to tonight gave me a lot of trouble. Bowser players who have figured out that his super armor doesn't give a damn about Mega Man's regular buster shots/pellets really trip me up...
I haven't played Karst's Bowser yet either, but I feel like he would kick my ass. 
Tested the upload feature with a fun game I had on For Glory. I should not have survived those Gordos...
https://youtu.be/QweDBxJQoO0
https://youtu.be/QweDBxJQoO0
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Blackquill
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lol these gordos, great uptilt btw.
Out_Of_Ammo
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What does that mean
The tip of Marth's sword is very strong and does extra damage and knockback, but the middle/hilt of the sword is weaker.
Lucina's sword is balanced throughout no it does the same damage so matter what part of the sword you hit with. The damage is stronger than Marth's non-tipper, but weaker than the tip of his sword. There might be a few moves where it does matter with Lucina, but I don't use her at all anymore so I'm not sure.
Overall Marth is the better character. The lower knockback of his weak hits can make it a little easier to follow-up attacks, and some of his tipper-attacks are some of the strongest in the game. Tipper f-smash, up-smash and shieldbreaker are all really powerful.
Although I do think Lucina's smash attacks are better, well except down smash cause that one is garbage. Tipper fsmash is ridiculous but it's hard to land due to the precise spacing required, while Lucina's doesn't have to deal with that and can still ko you at 70% by the edge, it's extremely powerful and it's one of the best smashes in the game in my opinion. Up smash is similar because you can scoop up with it and have great knockback.
Marth tippers allow him to ko easily with a lot other moves though, ftilt, uncharged shield break, dancing blade and all of his aerials. And that's the biggest problem holding Lucy back, where moves that should kill don't.
Marth tippers allow him to ko easily with a lot other moves though, ftilt, uncharged shield break, dancing blade and all of his aerials. And that's the biggest problem holding Lucy back, where moves that should kill don't.
AnkiRendan
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Well funny enough, Lucina does have a sweetspot with her down smash when she swings to the other side, but yeah...Oidisco and Boney pretty much said everything. That, and apparently Lucina is pretty unsafe whenever she attacks shields.
But yeah, it's your preference. Lucina was designed to be a beginner character to Marth.
Even now, I can't really ever see myself moving on to Marth though. :x Not only do I prefer Lucina design wise, but I never cared about Marth in Melee or Brawl so it would feel strange to do so now...
But yeah, it's your preference. Lucina was designed to be a beginner character to Marth.
Even now, I can't really ever see myself moving on to Marth though. :x Not only do I prefer Lucina design wise, but I never cared about Marth in Melee or Brawl so it would feel strange to do so now...
Geminosity
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Same. It's even worse now though as Marth just got 2 to 5 frames of endlag shaved off a cluster of his moves but Lucina didn't receive the same changes leaving her not only less safe on shield as before but also just slower to recover in general now :s
Anybody wanna play?
Haven't read so anywhere else
Are you sure Lucina didn't get those buffs?
Haven't read so anywhere else
Geminosity
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Yup. I already knew about it before they finished compiling the notes because I'd been digging through the difference files though: http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/lucina.html
She only gets the 5 frame change on the side-B combos that marth got and a similar damage increase as Marth on Neutral Air and Up-tilt.
I can play, if you're still there.
Yeah, that'd be good. I'll be there in a sec.
Geminosity
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...
Ok... so, uh... I realised that while I'd checked Lucy's changes I'd just taken people's word on the Marth changes. Had a quick peek and I don't see any of the frame changes on his normals that everywhere seems to be reporting What on fubble is going on?
Ok... so, uh... I realised that while I'd checked Lucy's changes I'd just taken people's word on the Marth changes. Had a quick peek and I don't see any of the frame changes on his normals that everywhere seems to be reporting
What on fubble is going on?We don't tech those
I've read everywhere Marth got the buffs and I have no reason to believe Lucina didn't get then either
Ok I'm up, you want customs?
From my understanding, landing lag differences won't show in Dantarion's program. So it can only be measured by frame counting....
Ok... so, uh... I realised that while I'd checked Lucy's changes I'd just taken people's word on the Marth changes. Had a quick peek and I don't see any of the frame changes on his normals that everywhere seems to be reporting
I've read everywhere Marth got the buffs and I have no reason to believe Lucina didn't get then either
I don't mind.
Geminosity
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Ah, interesting. I thought it was a straight up difference file similar to what you get in versioning software like Perforce, I didn't realise it had those kinds of limitations :3
Did some digging about the boards and the lucy community seem to think she got the frames shaved off too.
Whelp, I'm very glad to be wrong XD
Shamrock7r
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anyone up for some 1v1s
Yeah, it started about two matches ago. It seems to have eased out, though.
Yeah, you always die if you do it off stage like that I think, 90% sure
Which sucks balls
Rapid jab? I think it's because of the crazy rage I've gotten
Off the top of my head:
New down throw
Elhunder got 1% buff and less cool down
Arcthunder got less cool down
Up smash hitboxes got a little buff
Yeah, that. Hm, maybe. That and Sheik is a lightweight or something.
The down throw into Robin's rapid jab is particularly strong, I feel. The character got some nice changes.
It's pretty reliable on Shiek as she's a fast faller.
The problem is that you end up using too many wind times. Wish the fire jab wasn't nerfed as well
Sure.
NNID Fandangox
Already have you added.
Karsticles
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Two patches ago.
Deserved what v:
Good games, it got pretty laggy at the end there again.
Fighting sheik as samus is just a waste of time
Shamrock7r
Member
Not at all. The victories are that much sweeter.