Wolfgunblood Garopa
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No President has ever ordered a more successful missile strike.
Not sure why this surprises anyone, you don't knock out airfields with cruise missiles. You use a cratering warhead like the BLU-107/B. This was a piece of geopolitical theatre.
You seem knowledgable. How is it possible to miss a target? This isn't a Scud missile that you vaguely point towards the enemy; are we not using satellites, drones, GPS, etc. in our targeting?
What you don't seem to understand is you can't do that without confronting Russia.
In that case there are people around here who don't care while Assad has killed massive amounts of people with barrel bombs or when Russia was using a scorched Earth policy in it's raids against the eastern Syrian populations but I guess now an arbitrary line has been drawn and people are wrong to not care NOW.
Well, sadly arbitrary lines, hypocrisy, double-speak and degrees of "collateral damage" are blood over the hands of many at the top. There are decisions made all the time of let countries fight their own internal wars until they reach some arbitrary line, or we're simply not getting involved in this one. Basically, when do other countries intervene, if ever? Should other countries only ever intervene if they come under threat? When chemical weapons get used is it a global issue for all countries to uphold a stance against them?
Global politics, wars, ideological battles, hypocrisy, blood money, and so on is an absolute mess. It always will be in the world. Dictators and madmen will never cease to exist. We just have to try our best to resolve peacefully and by threat when we can, only rely on force when it's necessary. At times one persons "necessary" is another's "collateral damage". Hence you see Trump supporters say today America basically shouldn't ever be involved in other countries issues ever again, Trump let them down, etc. While I think the Iraq war was a disaster, and Bush/Blair are War Criminals, I cannot morally take a stance of isolation. What is shitty about America right now is the Government backed stance on refugees, as that is isolationist. Things do not need to be as absolute/heavy-handed as they are, and that can be part of a "peaceful" way to try and help people getting hit with chemical weapons needing to escape.
The strike intentionally avoided the runways, and it was meant to damage their fortified bunkers and serve as a message that chemical attacks will be responded to with force.So what was the point?
All those missiles wasted on fuck-all then.
Can't say I'm surprised with this walking L of an administration
US missiles are pretty accurate right, there's no way 50 missiles did that little damage except by intent, right?
You all missed the point. It was apparently just a fireworks show to Bryan Williams, who thought the missile strikes were... just... just...No President has ever ordered a more successful missile strike.
What you don't seem to understand is you can't do that without confronting Russia.
In that case there are people around here who didn't care while Assad has killed massive amounts of people with barrel bombs or when Russia was using a scorched Earth policy in it's raids against the eastern Syrian populations but I guess now an arbitrary line has been drawn and people are wrong to not care NOW.
Here is something else that is sad, decisions some people make cause others to suffer. There is no line. You take each individual situation assess and make a decision as best you can. The Syrian situation is shit. I'd love for it to end tomorrow but it won't. It won't end because the situation dictates it as so. Philosophizing about when people should and shouldn't interfere is not difficult, it's common sense. We can't risk a world war for the Syrian people, it sucks but the alternative is worse.
Russia isn't going to do shit. The US could literally airstrike Russia out of Syria and Russia wouldn't do shit. As long as the US doesn't attack Russia itself. They know that engagement with the US military is instant assured destruction. I would call their bluff all day long.
I would also say philosophising about when to attack, and when to retract is actually one of the most difficult moral questions of global politics
they only got 6 broken migs and a mess hall in the strike. what a joke.
No President has ever ordered a more successful missile strike. PERIOD.
Russia isn't going to do shit. The US could literally airstrike Russia out of Syria and Russia wouldn't do shit. As long as the US doesn't attack Russia itself. They know that engagement with the US military is instant assured destruction. I would call their bluff all day long.
Anyone know when we can expect to see new approval polling?
Russia isn't going to do shit. The US could literally airstrike Russia out of Syria and Russia wouldn't do shit. As long as the US doesn't attack Russia itself. They know that engagement with the US military is instant assured destruction. I would call their bluff all day long.
This type of hubris, man... It's hilarious.Russia isn't going to do shit. The US could literally airstrike Russia out of Syria and Russia wouldn't do shit. As long as the US doesn't attack Russia itself. They know that engagement with the US military is instant assured destruction. I would call their bluff all day long.
Russia isn't going to do shit. The US could literally airstrike Russia out of Syria and Russia wouldn't do shit. As long as the US doesn't attack Russia itself. They know that engagement with the US military is instant assured destruction. I would call their bluff all day long.
Turkey shot down a Russian jet, Russia responded by bombing Turkish backed rebels all the way out of Latakia and took the whole of Aleppo, tipping the entire wars' balance in Assad's' favor and making Erdogan Putin' lapdog.
Russia knows how, when and where to respond. It's not always in your face response. Similar to the Iranians with their 2007 Karbala raid against US forces in Iraq.
You can't be serious. This is one of those things that are easy to say but suddenly the immense risks become real once you're actually pulling triggers and dropping bombs.
This type of hubris, man... It's hilarious.
There's a reason US tends to invade weak nations with shit air defenses only.
Other than conduct one of the most successful cyber operations in history, they won't do shit. That's the thing about them, they engage in subversive warfare. It's why they are helping the Taliban in Afghanistan.
It's this kind of no worries attitude that has gotten us to this point, we should have been much more wary.
Lizard King, you trippin' bruh.
That graph of military expenditure actually makes US military look more inept to me.
US expenditure is so high due to how it's designed, not because it's any more capable.
And? Turkey isn't the US.
Lizard King, you trippin' bruh.
That graph of military expenditure actually makes US military look more inept to me.
US expenditure is so high due to how it's designed, not because it's any more capable.
Well at least this boards preferred presidential candidate last year agrees with me.
LOL. I'm trippin? To call the US military not anymore capable than anyone else is laughable.
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They are far more capable than the next 10 countries combined.
These graphs mean absolutely nothing, man.They are far more capable than the next 10 countries combined.
There is a next to insignificant risk.
Anyone know when we can expect to see new approval polling?
Hmm, GAF attacking me for agreeing with Hillary Clinton policy. Maybe not Americans?
Lizard King, you trippin' bruh.
That graph of military expenditure actually makes US military look more inept to me.
US expenditure is so high due to how it's designed, not because it's any more capable.
The strike intentionally avoided the runways, and it was meant to damage their fortified bunkers and serve as a message that chemical attacks will be responded to with force.
Furthermore, regarding the effectiveness of the strike, the message the US sent via de-confliction channel to warn Russian troops of an incoming attack was​ clearly passed on to the Syrians. There are reports of Syrian cargo and personnel evacuating win an hour before the missiles hit.
Of course it didn't. We gave the Russians a heads up and they reportedly gave the Syrians a heads up.Guess, the bombing didn't have that big of an effect on anything.
Hmm, GAF attacking me for agreeing with Hillary Clinton policy. Maybe not Americans?
The US would meet the same fate as the germans in 41-45. Unless they're gonna nuke Russia they're not going to be able to supply such a large scale operation (we're talking about millions of soldiers here).He's not entirely wrong in the sense that the US has a larger and more capable military, however Russia would be able to inflict significant damage to the US.
Hmm, GAF attacking me for agreeing with Hillary Clinton policy. Maybe not Americans?
Hmm, GAF attacking me for agreeing with Hillary Clinton policy. Maybe not Americans?
More capable is arguable these days. Larger, for sure. But a war with Russia or China would mean the US going there to invade. And I think that'd end up being a decisive loss.He's not entirely wrong in the sense that the US has a larger and more capable military, however Russia would be able to inflict significant damage to the US.
What is this gaslighting bullshit. Criticism of Hillary's foreign policy is nothing new.
The US would meet the same fate as the germans in 41-45. Unless they're gonna nuke Russia they're not going to be able to supply such a large scale operation (we're talking about millions of soldiers here).
It's delusional to think open war between Russia and the US would not end with the death of humanity anyway.
More capable is arguable these days. Larger, for sure. But a war with Russia or China would mean the US going there to invade. And I think that'd end up being a decisive loss.
US spends a ton of money because it's military is designed to project power abroad. Russia and China don't need to spend nearly as much because their militaries are designed to protect the homeland with limited power projection. US invading countries like these with sophisticated air defense systems and huge land masses to occupy would be nuts. There is a limit to US military power - I know it's not easy to admit since we're program from birth to believe we're indestructible.
Another Su-22 taking off the Airbase today.
https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/850415982808117248
There doesn't seem to be much difficulty with taxing fighter jets around the runways.