The only thing I don't like is that the localization dialogue was clearly written with a dub in mind. Most of the dialogue doesn't match what's being said and the whole "Kor Meteor" thing is jarring when the spoken dialogue is clearly saying "Shing Meteorite".
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Tales of Hearts R |OT| With Our Vitas Combined
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The only thing I don't like is that the localization dialogue was clearly written with a dub in mind. Most of the dialogue doesn't match what's being said and the whole "Kor Meteor" thing is jarring when the spoken dialogue is clearly saying "Shing Meteorite".
It's not. He has one, it's just not in the preorder DLC for some reason.
So I just finished my first playthrough and I have a couple questions about newgame+
First off, if I carry over relationships does that affect anything besides linked skills? Does higher relationships with people affect dialogue or story in any capacity? Also, are there anythings I should look for in my second playthrough like different events or hidden stuff?
Also, what are "Shadow Soma's"?
Finally, what is the best time to do the "extra" content. Can I go back and open a completed save file and just free roam or is there a certain point in the story that I shouldn't progress past and instead explore the map?
First off, if I carry over relationships does that affect anything besides linked skills? Does higher relationships with people affect dialogue or story in any capacity? Also, are there anythings I should look for in my second playthrough like different events or hidden stuff?
Also, what are "Shadow Soma's"?
Finally, what is the best time to do the "extra" content. Can I go back and open a completed save file and just free roam or is there a certain point in the story that I shouldn't progress past and instead explore the map?
(ex before going to mysticete)
orthodoxy1095
Banned
This is true. The name is the least jarring of the dialogue issues. The more egregious stuff is, as you mentioned, the dialogue not matching what is being said. A lot of the time I could ignore it, but when one Japanese word turned into one full or two half sentences, it was obviously a bit weird. Considering there was no dub, a proper sub would have been preferable.
Chalcedony's cameo costume isn't included in the preorder DLC either. We'll get both at some point I'm sure.
I can't answer most of those, as I too would like to know. But to the question of different events/hidden stuff, there are events that are optional that you might have missed. As an example, the events in
Lion Park where you get Kohaku's Red Riding Hood outfit are completely optional. The event where you return to Organica and visit Lapis to patch her up is also optional.
I don't see this being mentioned but this tuesday update had tales of heart r avatars
Tales of Hearts R Beryl Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Chalcedony Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Gall Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Hisui Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Ines Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Kohaku Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Kor Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Kunzite Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Beryl Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Chalcedony Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Gall Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Hisui Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Ines Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Kohaku Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Kor Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Tales of Hearts R Kunzite Avatar ($0.49) (PS Vita)
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
OMG! Thanks so much for posting this! I've always wanted an official Tales avatar for one of my gaming profiles!
flatearthpandas
Member
Alright, pretty sure I'm at the final dungeon. Will hopefully wrap things up tonight.
It is amazing how much a world map changes these games in my opinion. I love having one and I really wish the console versions would go back to it.
This layout + either Graces or Xillia 2 battle system would be my ideal Tales game. Dopey tunnels full of shiny spots is just not that much fun imo. I'm pretty sure that's what they're running with for Zesthiria but I really hope we can get back into the world map. I don't know why it makes such a difference but it really does. Sets a better sense of scale, maybe.
It is amazing how much a world map changes these games in my opinion. I love having one and I really wish the console versions would go back to it.
This layout + either Graces or Xillia 2 battle system would be my ideal Tales game. Dopey tunnels full of shiny spots is just not that much fun imo. I'm pretty sure that's what they're running with for Zesthiria but I really hope we can get back into the world map. I don't know why it makes such a difference but it really does. Sets a better sense of scale, maybe.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Agreed on the world map. The sense of scale is also a huge part of creating (IMO) the sense of adventure that's really needed in a JRPG.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I find the best scale comes from quality environment design. Like, FFXII takes place in a single country, but feels far bigger than all of the PS3 Tales titles, and I think it's because their team just can't design compelling terrain at all.
Generally though, I prefer the more immersive no-world map solution...but it requires effort that Namco has yet to show in the Tales games.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I would prefer the no-map as well, but if I have to choose between the tunnels with shiney spots and a world map, I'm taking the world map. I hope they give the no map method a shot though.
Recently started this game just got
as a party member. Gotta say I like how they leave the skit up that tells you what/where you need to go next. I haven't had much of a chance to put a solid amount of time in at once so this is something nice to fall back on (even though I haven't really needed it yet).
Beryl
flatearthpandas
Member
Did end up finishing last night and even pulled out a clutch 200+ combo on the second to last boss for the trophy.
Overall impressions:
I liked the game quite a bit.
The battle system is clearly short of recent console titles although I think there should be enough buttons to pull off better systems. Default battle controls were pretty bad but once I switched battle controls to the stick I had minimal issues. Chases were a bit too random to be interesting, but I liked the counter system and I enjoyed having dual mystic artes.
Even without battles being up to par, I think I liked it more than Xillia, Xillia 2, or Graces f. Sounds ridiculous because battles are such a huge part of the games, but even the lacking battle system was nostalgic of Symphonia and Abyss, which are games I really enjoyed. In fact, nostalgia is a lot of what I liked about this game because in some ways the series has moved on in, to me, inferior directions.
Having a world map again was great. Having cooking that levels up and is cooked by party members based on tastes was great.
The dungeons sometimes overstayed their welcome, but they had actual puzzles. There weren't dozens of useless shinies to run around grabbing on every screen. It was nice.
Oh, and the
!! How rare is that in these games?
Plotwise, it's videogames. It isn't as terrible as Graces, not as good as Abyss. Characters aren't as terrible as Graces, but not as good as Xillia 2.
The game easily fits in beside Ys as a great standout "exclusive" JRPG on Vita (I believe they are both technically remakes, right?) and I'm glad to have played it.
Overall impressions:
I liked the game quite a bit.
The battle system is clearly short of recent console titles although I think there should be enough buttons to pull off better systems. Default battle controls were pretty bad but once I switched battle controls to the stick I had minimal issues. Chases were a bit too random to be interesting, but I liked the counter system and I enjoyed having dual mystic artes.
Even without battles being up to par, I think I liked it more than Xillia, Xillia 2, or Graces f. Sounds ridiculous because battles are such a huge part of the games, but even the lacking battle system was nostalgic of Symphonia and Abyss, which are games I really enjoyed. In fact, nostalgia is a lot of what I liked about this game because in some ways the series has moved on in, to me, inferior directions.
Having a world map again was great. Having cooking that levels up and is cooked by party members based on tastes was great.
(In a time before trophies, I actually grinded out max cooking on every member of my Symphonia party because I just loved the game and wanted everyone to have max cooking. Hearts R doesn't require as much dedication, but it was good to get that feeling again.)
Oh, and the
awkward couple actually says "I love you" to each other
Plotwise, it's videogames. It isn't as terrible as Graces, not as good as Abyss. Characters aren't as terrible as Graces, but not as good as Xillia 2.
The game easily fits in beside Ys as a great standout "exclusive" JRPG on Vita (I believe they are both technically remakes, right?) and I'm glad to have played it.
The story was incredibly tropey. It had cliches out the wazoo what makes it worth it are the characters and their interaction (excluding gall and Kor). They really shine and have very well done personalities by the end of the game your really feel for them.
Its enjoyable, its not breaking new grounds but its solid,with the characters being even more fun.
Agree 100%
orthodoxy1095
Banned
To concur with everyone else, the story isn't special. Solid, but not special. It's the lovable characters that make the game.
Just beat a certain trio boss
and I was lead to believe it was one of the harder (if not the hardest) fight in the game. It wasn't anything special outside of
on one character.
I may be over leveled, or just got lucky. Really enjoying the game, wasn't sure what to expect when I bought it. I wouldn't have even bought it if it wasn't for the Namco sale they had for the Tales series. I am really glad they had that sale and that it pushed me to purchase it.
Chalcedony's crew
Chalcedony's automatic KO
I may be over leveled, or just got lucky. Really enjoying the game, wasn't sure what to expect when I bought it. I wouldn't have even bought it if it wasn't for the Namco sale they had for the Tales series. I am really glad they had that sale and that it pushed me to purchase it.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
You may also just be good at the game's mechanics. I was pretty terrible at that point in the game (didn't get all that much better later even) and I died probably three or four times. Did you have good battle strategy set? That's actually what really did me in.
super late reply but thanks for the feedback. I'll pick up the game as soon as i have extra cash, probably not this month though. Haven't played a Tales game in ages and can't wait to jump back in
Yeah I utilize 3 different strategy set ups for some of the tougher bosses. It took me till that fight (or around there) to realize you had to/could equip skills.
I did a little grinding early in the game to make sure everyone always had the best armor. I don't do that anymore though, doesn't seem to be necessary for the most part.
Character spoiler:
Corundum
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Wonder what happened to Bladenic. They were trying to get the Balloonatic trophy as well.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
clay_ghost
Member
Aftw completing the ggame and doing most of the side quests i have to say that this is a decent de make. The combat is still enjoyable although the DS one is vastly better.The little story change does not affect me that much and i do like the little tie in to TOIR and potentially TEMPEST R.
I hope this sells well enough to bring TOIR to the West .
I hope this sells well enough to bring TOIR to the West .
SlasherJPC
Banned
Is there a way to turn off voices in this and by doing so will I miss out on anything. When a game doesn't have a English dub I just prefer to read the dialog since I can't understand anyways.
Never got it lol, need to go back and get it but I'm playing Tales of Innocence R right now. Didn't really try to get it yet but I hate the minigame. It's gonna suck when I finally get it cuz the time stamp for it and platinum are gonna be so far apart from my other trophies.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Congrats!
Oh well make sure to give us any tips once you figure the damn thing out!
Ultros should give us all tips.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
It's an annoying trophy and it's quite repetitive but it should work out in 2 hours or so.
Try to get as much points with Chalcedony and Kunzite, should get at least more than 3.1k for them. Try this setup:
Kunzite:
Fleeting Shadow - Circle button
Tempest Strike - Right analog stick
Chalcedony:
Aerial Exorcism - Circle button
Soaring Radiance - Right analog stick
Be sure to attack the star balloon at the highest priority.
Try to garner 1.5k with Hisui and Kor, 1k+ with Beryl. Then the rest try to rack as much points as you can.
Hisui:
Burrowing Owl - I relied on this. It's like an auto landmine. - Circle button
Kor:
Streaking Comet - Circle button
Lightning T.Blade - Right analog stick
Beryl:
Flying Colors - Circle button
Shock-a-Doodle - Right analog stick
Gall:
Burrowing Mole - A weaker and slower version of Burrowing Owl but it will do the trick. - Circle button
Ines:
Blade de Bulles - Circle button
Knee de la Sirène - Right analog stick
Kohaku - I relied mostly on her attacking the balloons rather than using artes:
Rising Phoenix - Circle button
Crimson Twister - Right analog stick
Eudaemonium
Member
Kor reminds me of an even worse version of Asbel Lhant.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Nice detail here! Thanks! I'll give this a try a little later.
Not even close. Kor is your typical dumb protagonist, but he's really he's just naive and dumb because of his backstory. Not because of some unexplained mental deficiency like so many other protags. If anything, he's dumb but still endearing. He means well.
AkelisRain
Member
Is it me, or does the priority commands seem broken? I set it to have Kohaku heal an ally at less than 50% HP and she never heals.
robotzombie
Member
Sounds about on par for Tales games
Are you using the page the command is on?
AkelisRain
Member
I am using the page that says action priorities, target condtionals, and ect.. on Kohaku. It doesn't seem to work for her. Works on other characters though. Which is weird.
thekiddfran
Member
Finger crossed!
Flying Toaster
Member
i get it Tales of Hearts R, Ines has big boobs. Ha ha, I laughed already at that the first nineteen times
This is something I have noticed about all the tales games I have played... over used, repeated jokes...
By the way, this is an amazing game. All Vita owners should have it.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Sometimes the only way I could get a character to follow my commands was to hardlock actions to occur 100%. That solved most of my issues. With characters being told to heal, healing can take a few seconds and thus get interrupted, so I would also use the commands to stick the healer further back. Dunno if that helps.
AkelisRain
Member
Thanks, I tried that but she wouldn't even initiate a heal even with 100%.
Also, forgive me for eating your lunch. BibleThump
Dwight Schrute
Member
I love Tales games.
I watched a video of the game and it seemed that battles are random ? (no monster on screen). Is it true ? How obnoxious are they ? I still have scars from old jRPGSs with battles every 5 steps...
On a side note, My faves are Symphonia, phantasia, abyss, vesperia and on a lesser extent graces. Will I like this one ?
Many thanks !
I watched a video of the game and it seemed that battles are random ? (no monster on screen). Is it true ? How obnoxious are they ? I still have scars from old jRPGSs with battles every 5 steps...
On a side note, My faves are Symphonia, phantasia, abyss, vesperia and on a lesser extent graces. Will I like this one ?
Many thanks !
LifeBrandRobot
Member
It can get annoying when your doing like a puzzle or when you just want to rush through a section but if you just carry around a bunch of holy bottles and sacrosant bottles you should be good. It does make grinding levels way easier though. When I need a couple levels I switch it to auto, pop a dark bottle and run around a healing save point while I'm watching videos or something.
Dwight Schrute
Member
Oh, there's an auto batte mode ? Ok, that's a plus.
What is the consensus on the game regarding other Tales ?
What is the consensus on the game regarding other Tales ?