Togglesworlh
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Team Fortress 2 |OT3| - Murder-based Hat Simulator
- Thread starter Yeef
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tangmaster96
Member
I don't know should i take these codes
TF2 Economy may just crash soon if Valve doesn't move fast. Item Duplication is here! Methods don't seem to have leaked yet, but people are starting to notice suspicious trades and after some research are finding that there are multiple items with the same Original ID.
Again? I thought they fixed it...
divisionbyzorro
Member
Damnit somebody took the Time Gentlemen Please code!
One of these days I'll get around to buying that. Ben There Dan That was amazing.
One of these days I'll get around to buying that. Ben There Dan That was amazing.
SteveWinwood
Member
UH OH
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Valve's Troubled Hat Asset Relief Program incoming.
Quick, they need to crash the store/community/item servers again! That'll fix it (until they come back up)!
That seems like it should be impossible. I mean, why wouldn't the database value for original ID be set to unique? I'm no database guru or anything, but that seems like common sense.
SteveWinwood
Member
Too big to fail.
It's the same duplication bug as earlier, more or less. Can't really go into detail without revealing how to do it though.
You should email fletcher or dunkenfool about it.
This happened before like a month ago and they were able to fix it pretty soon. I forget but I think it had something to do with simultaneously trading through both Steam trade and in-game.
Last time they trade banned the people who duplicated items and then wiped them. They won't let the economy crash.
Dreams-Visions
Member
No really, it is.
You can bet your sweet asses that the last thing Valve would allow is for a handful of thieves kill off their cash cow. I'd bet on me landing on the moon next year before that happening.
I predict Vintage Vintage items to counter this tomfoolery.
The people who actually trade unsuals I don't think will be super affected since they view IDs and 'know' hat owners and such. It's just people who aren't in that circle getting 'scammed'.
I can't see Valve punishing people who get duped items so my guess is stuff like TF2WH gets dumped legit items from unusual trades and the dupers make a profit before they get banned or whatever.
The people who actually trade unsuals I don't think will be super affected since they view IDs and 'know' hat owners and such. It's just people who aren't in that circle getting 'scammed'.
I can't see Valve punishing people who get duped items so my guess is stuff like TF2WH gets dumped legit items from unusual trades and the dupers make a profit before they get banned or whatever.
divisionbyzorro
Member
18 dropped weapons for one key? :lol I hope those aren't the numbers this so-called "analyst" actually used.
Um...sure.
The analyst isn't much better. From what I could tell he got to the $50 million figure largely by using a fixed drop rate of 11 items(which will seem a bit high to anyone using idlers) per every other concurrent user(he figures half of the hours played come from users over their weekly drop limit) per hour(!!!) and then using this as a uniform weekly figure going back to May 2009, ignoring the shift in the game when it went F2P.
Don't link to Kotaku, link to the actual site.
http://theonlinesociety.com/2011/12/the-50-million-virtual-millinery/
*Drop rate is wrong in article
**Fixed it, then refixed it. Terrible terrible math still.
http://theonlinesociety.com/2011/12/the-50-million-virtual-millinery/
*Drop rate is wrong in article
**Fixed it, then refixed it. Terrible terrible math still.
Dreams-Visions
Member
haha, true.
well actually, if you manage to sell all 18 dropped weapons for a scrap (the standard fare), you'd end up with...eh...2 refined. that's damn near a key. So really, he's not far off. Sure, all of us probably just melt the shit down rather than waste lifetime trying to sell random weapons, but that estimate isn't that far off. On paper, anyway.
But they really have developed quite the economy. Especially with the keys. I look at the trading websites like tf2tp and see all the holiday items and weapons and remember that every item there was $2.50 for Valve, irrespective of what they're selling for in the open market. Must result in some nice Christmas bonuses at Valve.
nice find. as for the Kotaku article, it's the one Valve themselves linked on their service under the TF2 "recent news".
http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=440
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/kotaku/775975267418803661
So tell them if you're not satisfied with the article linked; not me.
Their 'recent news' just pulls from RSS feeds when it finds certain keywords, I'm fairly sure. Probably from Google Reader. So Google is to blame. And computers.
I think way back when this was added I griped about it, since there is no way to disable Kotaku showing up by default. I wish there was a way to set game news to "official update news only" so I can save myself a mouseclick or two.
Cloudius12
Member
How is Friday for another session of Highlander?
Togglesworlh
Banned
If you guys make the scrims a regular thing, I'd actually be willing to participate.
Optimally, we should try to make the games actually balanced. I dunno how your last game went (because I skipped over ever post referencing it), but in my experience, in-houses are generally a steamroll on one side or the other.
Optimally, we should try to make the games actually balanced. I dunno how your last game went (because I skipped over ever post referencing it), but in my experience, in-houses are generally a steamroll on one side or the other.
Grimm Fandango
Member
I'd like in on next time too. I can play Pyro, Soldier, or Heavy.
Togglesworlh
Banned
We might even have enough TF2 players on GAF to organize a small tournament. U:
Although we've tried before, and it never really panned out.
Although we've tried before, and it never really panned out.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Don't think I can do Friday. Thursday?
If you guys make the scrims a regular thing, I'd actually be willing to participate.
Optimally, we should try to make the games actually balanced. I dunno how your last game went (because I skipped over ever post referencing it), but in my experience, in-houses are generally a steamroll on one side or the other.
They were pretty one-sided one way or the other. We did have different people sub-in and out for every map... so it's not like we had consistent teams.
Professor Beef
Banned
I'd be down.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Ah.
Also, the more we do this, if we at least keep consistent teams, the more people will get used to each other and start working more tightly as a team. I know everyone plays on the GAF server, but half of the people are just messing around. It's not a strictly competitive scenario. It could turn into something pretty cool. U:
What we just did was kinda a small tournament, right? We played 3 different maps with pro highlander rules, the superstopwatch contraption, and then in the end Yeef won and pocketed millions of dollars in prize money and badges. I figure that's what tournaments are all about.
Seriously though, I don't know why everyone was constantly crashing on the second map. I think switching teams was one thing that triggered it, and I think it happened to me on foundry.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
That reminds me, I don't know how it was on the other team, but most, if not all, of our team had mics. That might have contributed to the rolls of steam.
I actually thought Foundry was pretty balanced the first round. We had a nice back and forth. The other maps were just complete rolls though.
Apparently the 'official' highlander cvar is bugged and causes all sorts of crashes. So, instead when they do highlander tournaments in other places they just set every class to limit 1, except engineer to 2 (for switching) and don't bother with mp_highlander.
Togglesworlh
Banned
It's not really a tournament when there's only two teams, now is it?
I suppose, though I don't think my team ever got past the middle point (did we even capture it?).
Valve wins again. =(
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Pretty sure I just got killed by Yeef on a random pub
Or at least someone named Yeef
Or at least someone named Yeef
You guys were 50% of the way capturing it while we were on your second point. We decided to rush back, and I had assumed that you guys capped it in that time. But apparently we made it back fast enough to stop you at like 90%. I didn't even realize you didn't cap it until I started wondering why I didn't see a x2 or x3 cap rate while we were on the point.
There was another point in the first or second round where I'm pretty sure you got a back cap on us by taking mid, but we quickly recapped it that time. I still haven't looked at the stream or the replays, but you can check here: http://www.twitch.tv/exmrk (scroll down)
It makes me feel a lot better that we ALMOST got the halfway point captured once or twice before being crushed. (actually I think we played the map twice so we got double the crushing before people started leaving)
Cloudius12
Member
I'm free pretty much everyday :/
If not Friday, possibly Weekends (whatever we decide on), or Thursday. Once a week is too little =(
Need to have Yeef decide a date, he is the organizer!
If not Friday, possibly Weekends (whatever we decide on), or Thursday. Once a week is too little =(
Need to have Yeef decide a date, he is the organizer!
Professor Beef
Banned
no duh
Cloudius12
Member
Watching the archive as well, Took forever to start Badwaters lol
btw What UI is that? I'm still rocking the default.
btw What UI is that? I'm still rocking the default.
Yeah, people kept constantly crashing until Yeef restarted the server. I think people had to use a console command to switch teams, AND use a console command to join because the server was showing up as 14/12 full or something.
If you mean the class things at the top of the screen, I think that's highlander stuff. If you mean something else, I dunno.
Wendel Clark
Member
CommunityHUD, I use it too
I can play in the next one, if it happens again, as soldier or demo.
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*Soon is a relative term.
*Soon is a relative term.
Togglesworlh
Banned
divisionbyzorro
Member
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