• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

TEKKEN 7 |OT| How I killed your mother

Yeah, this trend really started in probably T6. Too many roided out brawlers in this game now. I haven't done a comparison, but it looks to me that they even put Paul on the roids in T7. He's way bigger than he used to be.

As for the hair, it might come down to UE4 vs. the old engine they were using.
You're right - this did start in Tekken 6 and...I don't know why they think it's a good idea. We know these guys kick ass, now you don't need to make them all roided out looking. It doesn't make them look cool, it makes them look fuckin unnatural.

hm I mean everything in the visual fidelity pretty much translated well from their original engine --> unreal, so for the hair to become an afterthought...hair is important. all the characters have it lol, so they should've done something more about it
 

T-Rex.

Banned
Man the Tekken community is really nice. In Guilty Gear I was joining beginner lobbies and was getting bodied by a bunch of people who obviously weren't beginners, but in this people are just randomly messaging me after matches giving me advice and stuff which is pretty cool.
 

Jaeger

Member
The super strong/buff look for the characters is the art style they choose to go with more than anything else. And it's always been that way (like Street Fighter) it's just way more noticeable with the technological achievements we have now. Harder to notice with everyone's biceps being blocks in the earlier games.
 
Guys, a very dedicated member of Tekken-GAF has a problem.
Sorry for bothering guys but could you check this is ok?

https://twitter.com/GrayFoxPL/status/871082867698393088

I used something called twitlonger to write something cohesive, but I don't even know if twitter blocks this or is it working at all. I tweeted this to Michael Murray, guy closest to T7 development. I don't have any idea if he got it, not to mention being busy with T7 launch.

I'd love to send e-mail to Tekken team but I can't find such thing, even Official Tekken.eu has no contact only facebook.

Do you have any ideas who could I e-mail that would have slightest chance of helping with my case?

Does general Namco Bandai have e-mail? I found real postal address but no e-mail. Maybe writing real letter would do something.

Maybe redaction of shoryuken and eventhubs would know someone.

I don't know, I'm desperate. Years of waiting and the only company that locks out Logitech pads is Namco, not Capcom, Netherrealm, SNK, Arc Sys, only Namco.

I'm crushed.

cxEQ1ar.gif
If anybody can retweet him to Harada, Murray, Bandai Namco or any representative, I'd really be grateful!
 

Ferrio

Banned
Ah the feeling of going up against someone who finally punishes you for doing stupid shit. Been throwing out way too many df2s with Josie fishing for launchers, finally someone checks me on it.

Also any character past T3 confuses the hell out of me, since I have no idea what their moveset is like. Lots of "Oh you can do that?!" as I'm getting caught by strings I had no idea existed.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
You don't know what you're talking about :)

Neither do you :)

I thought Paragon has pretty nice hair

To rephrase, I think it takes a very conscious effort and understanding to do hair well in UE4. Paragon is made by Epic Games, the Unreal Engine creators, so they both know the ins-and-outs of the engine better than anyone else, and want to do a good job of showing it off.

Also, a lot of the hair in Tekken 7 has been brought over from models they made for Tekken 6 or Tag 2, which were created for their proprietary engine. Probably doesn't translate well.
 
Man the Tekken community is really nice. In Guilty Gear I was joining beginner lobbies and was getting bodied by a bunch of people who obviously weren't beginners, but in this people are just randomly messaging me after matches giving me advice and stuff which is pretty cool.

As an older Tekken player who was playing the tournament circuit before their was a tournament circuit this is great to hear.

When I traveled to tournaments I found Tekken players were willing to house fellow gamers, provide advice on gampleay, and make it a good atmosphere for all involved. Good to hear this continues.

Actually it's one reason I've stuck with Tekken more than other fighters, I feel the community is more mature (lol not everybody and not all the time) but mature enough to take it serious, but also know it's just a game and the point of it all is to have fun.
 

MindofKB

Member
On Saturday, I created an 8 person double elim tournament and had a blast. I got to loser's finals, beat a guy while using Akuma and he flamed the hell out of me. He said I was a scrub who played Akuma like this was Street Fighter instead of Tekken.

Uhhhh, is it my fault that you don't know how to deal with demon flip mixups and focus attack cancel -> demon setups? Nope, it's not.
 

New002

Member
So this is the first Tekken game I'd like to take seriously. What's some required reading/watching outside of the useful Links at the bottom of the OP? I'm looking for like a total newcomer overwiew of the systems and gameplay and what your goals are during a match.

Like...I read earlier that these long combos aren't really useful and what you want to focus on are juggles. That's the kind of stuff I just don't know and would love to get more insight on, because otherwise I would have hit training mode to practice long ass combos because that seems solid in my head.
 

fernoca

Member
One thing I've been wondering...

If a small stick, bat-top preferably, exists at an affordable price for PS4?

Now, here's the kicker...one that can also be used on Xbox One?
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I'm at 64 win streak and have unlocked nothing for my character I'm using, I just keep getting money and stupid accessories (all)
 

SarusGray

Member
Got to Grand Master Rank... I gotta say, the online is buggy so I'm taking a break from it now. (I didnt realize how bad the PS4s connections were till I watched PC streams)

The offline portion of Tekken does nothing for me. The modes are not fun, the load times really bother me, and the story mode isn't something I'll bother doing. I miss Survival Mode and seeing where I rank up with other players and just playing offline in that mode. I miss Team Battle seeing how far I can go with certain team comps. And there's no mini game mode like Tekken Bowl to have you relax after a long day of whooping peoples ass on the buggy online.

Suffice it to say, this is my least favorite Tekken in the series even though the gameplay is incredible. The load times for me really hurt the game and treasure battle provides no challenge to me like downloading ghosts of other players and learning how to counter them offline. Hoping patches and DLC makes it better but yeah.... if anyone wants to play me for some casual matches, PM me, but I think I'll play this offline against other people in real life a couple times till they fix the problems on the PS4 and game in general.

Bright side, I haven't seen any other Xiaoyu mains besides me so thats nice.
 
My thoughts exactly!

I think Namco is probably going to sell it back to us at a later date. There's definitely money to be made there, especially if all the other female characters get cat suits of their own.

Hate the thought of paying for it but probably would. It's her best costume in years. Which wouldn't be hard given she had that purple camo three games in a row.

Are there any other story exclusive costumes? It could be part of a set.
 
Maybe this game sold more than what Namco anticipated for launch?
i dunno man, tekken has always sold the most on playstation even after going multiplatform. they should've anticipated the most turnout on Ps4 to begin with
It doesn't. It's an UE4 thing. The engine doesn't do hair well.
I see, I misunderstood when eyeball_kid was explaining. still...hair is important, it should not have been left an afterthought
 
So this is the first Tekken game I'd like to take seriously. What's some required reading/watching outside of the useful Links at the bottom of the OP? I'm looking for like a total newcomer overwiew of the systems and gameplay and what your goals are during a match.

Like...I read earlier that these long combos aren't really useful and what you want to focus on are juggles. That's the kind of stuff I just don't know and would love to get more insight on, because otherwise I would have hit training mode to practice long ass combos because that seems solid in my head.


I've been collecting links for new players, here what I have so far, if anyone has more links please share:


Resources for new players:

Character overviews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbewxse8DlI

Top ten points for new players from other fighting games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onfgm7ifwhQ

Website(s)
Tekkenzaibatsu . Com
Shoryken . Com
Top 15 moves for each character: https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

How sidestepping works, its a video for Tekken 6 but still applies to Tekken 7.
https://youtu.be/wuLhI7Co8CA


Also youtube "Level up your game" 80%+ of the Tekken 6 stuff will be applicable to T7.
Also youtube Basic to Pro: https://youtu.be/JxSzUSeYtkU
 

Lan Dong Mik

And why would I want them?
lol damn I fucking love this video/song in the gallery but I have no idea what the name of the song is. It's under the misc videos section. Bottom row, has Kings face in the video pic. Must have listened to that shit like 10 times now. Reminds me so much of Let's fighting Love from South Park haha.

Edit: Lol I'm blind as hell, bottom screen shows the title.

https://youtu.be/kiBP0BDta_g

When shit matchmaking connectivity issues has me down, I'm just gonna listen to this song and stay positive
 

New002

Member
I've been collecting links for new players, here what I have so far, if anyone has more links please share:


Resources for new players:

Character overviews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbewxse8DlI

Top ten points for new players from other fighting games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onfgm7ifwhQ

Website(s)
Tekkenzaibatsu . Com
Shoryken . Com
Top 15 moves for each character: https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

How sidestepping works, its a video for Tekken 6 but still applies to Tekken 7.
https://youtu.be/wuLhI7Co8CA


Also youtube "Level up your game" 80%+ of the Tekken 6 stuff will be applicable to T7.
Also youtube Basic to Pro: https://youtu.be/JxSzUSeYtkU

Thanks for putting this together and sharing. Really appreciate it.
 

mbpm1

Member
Just had an friend of mine actually leave and drive away when I made a comment offhand about King in Tekken 7 while we were playing.

All I said that if King were female, he'd probably just be Lucky Chloe.

Gave me a look, said he's done and walked away.
Harada please ban this man from all tekken online and tourneys

Female king would obviously be mika
 

SarusGray

Member
I've been collecting links for new players, here what I have so far, if anyone has more links please share:


Resources for new players:

Character overviews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbewxse8DlI

Top ten points for new players from other fighting games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onfgm7ifwhQ

Website(s)
Tekkenzaibatsu . Com
Shoryken . Com
Top 15 moves for each character: https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

How sidestepping works, its a video for Tekken 6 but still applies to Tekken 7.
https://youtu.be/wuLhI7Co8CA


Also youtube "Level up your game" 80%+ of the Tekken 6 stuff will be applicable to T7.
Also youtube Basic to Pro: https://youtu.be/JxSzUSeYtkU
side stepping got SUPER nerfed in Tekken 7, just an fyi. :-(
 

SarusGray

Member
wat

So... how does side stepping in this game actually work >_>

It just got heavily nerfed. IN tekken 6 I was able to sidestep most moves and counter them very easily. Here, its so much harder and you're pretty much having to guard most of the time since its very difficult to counter most attacks unless they're very linear using sidestepping.

Same concept applies, its just not as good anymore.

I think I do what Koreans say is the korean backdash. I'll have to post a video later of it.
 

Bydobob

Member
Hard to keep track of this thread but I've not seen much talk about Feng. What's the general opinion? I've decided he's going to be my main but after several hours practice I'm struggling to make him tick. His fancy back turns and feints look really cool, but have a small execution window that is easily punished. His combos are a dream to pull off though.
 

Wallach

Member
It just got heavily nerfed. IN tekken 6 I was able to sidestep most moves and counter them very easily. Here, its so much harder and you're pretty much having to guard most of the time since its very difficult to counter most attacks unless they're very linear using sidestepping.

Same concept applies, its just not as good anymore.

I think I do what Koreans say is the korean backdash. I'll have to post a video later of it.

I don't see any sign of a sidestepping nerf.
 

DKL

Member
While your character is in neutral, double tap up or down. Hold down the direction to continue moving in that direction.

Yeah, but what determines whether or not you successfully dodge something.

Half the time, it feels like things track even though I don't think they do since they're not a homing move as far as my eyes can tell.

(I think you get a special effect when something tracks like when I do u/b 2 with Paul)

But then, my friend told me that a lot of the moves track to some degree, so does it really just come down to knowing the timing and which direction to go in for various moves?

TL;DR

How to make people whiff consistently when they autopilot strings lol

EDIT:

Oh OK, just block or space properly on the 2D plane ;_;

EDIT EDIT:

I'm surprised I noticed some of the changes (like how wakeup works) even though I only played the games somewhat casually.
 

Rajang

Member
Sidestep is definitely nerfed compared to TTT2.

It was really bad in T7 vanilla but they buffed it a bit in the FR update (which is what the console version is based on).
 

SarusGray

Member
its funny, this is one of the most beginner friendly tekken games but there's no tutorial. The ball drop is cray. Seriously if you're new to tekken, this is a great place to start, just look up youtube tutorials etc.
 

SarusGray

Member
All I want for Christmas is...

In-game frame data ;_;

god this would help me a bunch. Learning Xiaoyu for the first time (and doing surprisingly well) but not knowing what I can punish after a block definitely would make my life easier.
 

DKL

Member
I really don't know why in-game frame data isn't standard (or why it has the possibility of being inaccurate when it is in when it should be tied to the game logic or whatever...).

It's a lot easier to memorize things if you look at the screen and it yells "+X!" every time the training mode dummy blocks.

Then you mash a bunch of commands from the move list to see the startup and you see what works (and it's easy to remember because good guy game will say "12 frame startup!" whenever you hit a button).

I know you can look at the dozens and dozens of spread sheets that give you the raw data, but it's something else to see those numbers in conjunction with the actual animations.
 
Top Bottom