Marvel
could never
Yeah, and I thought my basic af akuma combos were slick. This foo is crazy
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TEKKEN 7 |OT| How I killed your mother
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Lows are very high risk and my understanding is that they are not the main tools of very good players...
But you need to know how to either block them or space them out first if you ever want to actually be a good player >_>
A lot of the lows that people throw out are the ones that lead into launch combos. They are supposedly reactable, but I feel like they aren't to the newer player in a game that has like one million different strings everywhere.
Anyone else gets Physically tired after playing for a while ?
Maybe I should get smaller a screen ,but eye strain and headaches,mental fatigue are so real in this game.
Always has been in Tekken for me. I could never have long sessions without devolving into complete auto-pilot mode.
Maybe I should get smaller a screen ,but eye strain and headaches,mental fatigue are so real in this game.
Always has been in Tekken for me. I could never have long sessions without devolving into complete auto-pilot mode.
Been playing for 10 hours straight and nothing, but my left thumb really hurts from all the dpad maneuvers.
Try sitting back further away from the screen.
Increasing the distance or getting a smaller screen should help.
See, I totally can't do that.
I'll try.
I need to improve my stamina to power through those ranked matches.lol
LowParry
Member
Depends on the night honeslty. There are days where I'll go in about 10 matches and just end it right there. Other nights it's like 50+ matches. Having FFXIV Stormblood out next week to play isn't help much either.
JTCx
Member
I'm not sure if im following. I know theres people out there that are frustrated that the game doesnt have in game tutorial. However stuff like 'ignore the lows' and expecting this kind of stuff in a tutorial isn't great advice and not the kind of stuff to teach new players. Sure you can ignore most of it but there's going to be low moves out there to look for because its either free damage on block or avoid putting yourself in a bad situation.
SunhiLegend
Member
I'd you're getting eye strain and headache, your tv color profile might not be right. Set color to warm 2 and put your backlight brightness to lowest or check up calibrated settings for your tv at http://www.rtings.com/tv etc.
Thanks.
eyeball_kid
Member
The original complaint was that most players online are getting caught out by lows. What I'm saying is that it's not totally the fault of players because many people have been saying "don't worry about the lows, just eat that damage", which is overly-simplified, but because there's no official tutorials or guides, and also because this game is so complicated, people take that as gospel and move on to the 50 other mechanics they have to learn.
I've seen many comments in this thread from experienced players to new ones that basically amount to "you suck, get better", or "here, read these 20 guides and watch 500 matches" when these people don't even know how to move properly or defend. I think people who have played Tekken for a long time forget just how much learning this game demands. Aris touched on this some.
The fact that the game doesn't provide tutorials is also a problem because this game can be easy to button mash some characters and get some wins, so new players have the illusion that they've learned how to play when they really haven't at all. So suddenly there's a huge difficulty cliff and they have no idea how to get better. Many get frustrated and stop playing, especially with comments like "git gud". The condescending attitude is not unique to Tekken, it's part of the whole FGC, but I also think it's part of the reason why fighting games have become such a niche genre.
The fact that Tekken Team did so much in 7 to attract new players, but then failed to help them progress through the game's mechanics is really baffling.
DR2K
Banned
Legendary.
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let's match up so we can electric spam all day
My mistake tbh
But Im a masochist so I continue to use him
I just wanna electric fools
let's match up so we can electric spam all day
Seijuro
Member
My right hand hurts a little bit after putting in many hours in a short amount of days, surely didn't help that all I played in the days leading up to the game's release was Injustice 2. Even noticed it at work today.
But I don't get physically tired of playing fighters for some hours. I will quit after a few rounds though if I already start the session tired after a long day. Then Tekken becomes quite taxing.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Why is ranked matchmaking like this? Why doesn't it just search until you find someone... 9/10 times when you select someone from the list it can't connect and takes a few seconds to reload the list. Really baffling. The fights themselves are really smooth with 4-5 bars, but the matchmaking is awful. On PC btw.
Following up landscaping all day with hours of Tekken has my shoulders all sorts of sore. Especially on a stick.
I honestly don't think a tutorial would do much, and if anything would cause people to think the game is even more complicated than it already is. Have you actually watched a new player go through the tutorial modes for something like Guilty Gear Xrd or Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution? All they end up doing is intimidate and confuse new players due to just how much information the tutorials dump on people. And even if you get through all of that, they teach the game's mechanics but it still doesn't go into detail on how people should approach an actual match (at best, they go over some advanced techniques but they rarely go into why you do certain options).
As for why the genre is so niche now, it's not because the genre is hard and/or obtuse. Plenty of popular competitive games are hard as all hell to learn and play. The problem is that the way the games are structured and set is arachaic -- there's been little work into how the psychology of the player and their moment-to-moment experience matters. Look at the online modes in Tekken 7 -- there's nothing in the game to push people to keep playing outside of the actual act of playing the game itself, and given how saturated people's options are nowadays, that's not enough.
That's what warm-up is. Also the match list has been temporarily removed in the latest patch, I don't think PC has that one yet.
lucebuce12
Member
There's a patch coming soon for the PC and X1 version that helps improve the machmaking.
We need a Tekken 7 version of this.
60+ matches until 2k. Hype!
Get some lobbies in tonight if people are in.
Check lord Byakoko's channel
He does em
Still waiting for the Tekken 7 version
Human Trashcan
Banned
But doesn't that just put the problem on someone else's end? Put another way, if I'm in warmup, isn't the person I match with someone who selected me in the list?
The Artisan
Member
xiaoyu > asuka
RecRoulette
Member
Played my first tournament, cruised to grand finals and had to wait for the losers matches. I was set to play this Alisa I already beat pretty easily in grand finals, then the host quit and the tournament ended. Come the fuck on.
This. I just played maybe 10 matches, customized some characters, did Arcade and quit. I'll probably play more when I return home past midnight.
maniac-kun
Member
Just got the Platinum Trophy lol.
Question for stick users: What kind of stick is best for movement in Tekken? I've got a ball stick with Sanwa switches and a square gate and keep making embarassing movement mistakes in online. Sure, it might just be lack of practice, but I've been wondering if a bat stick might be better...?
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
lucebuce12
Member
They live by the DORYA and they die by the DORYA.
Calling that a BnB will scare off all aspiring Kazuya players lol
If you can land that 98% of the time, then you can land his real BnB 100% of the time which only requires one EWGF (as the launcher). It does more damage and it provides great wall carry.
EWGF ; 3,1,4 ; df1,4 ; dash forward ; df1,4
You can also do the same combo after a counter hit df2 or a ws2 as the launcher instead
Might be the easiest Platinum I've ever gotten. The hardest trophy was the "Play 10 online matches" one.
😏
Marvel
could never
Some 1st Dan just RQ on me lol, I was about to get the second win too.
Hold dat.
I'm saying nothing.
Hold dat.
I'm saying nothing.
When I play Kazuya, I don't even continue a juggle if I do a regular godfist. I just let them fall.
The only time I earn juggle damage is when I DORYA.
Mishima players are beyond help
Give up free dmg because no DORYA
To be fair, the people with this mentality tend to be Kazuya players
Devil Jin players are happy with free juggle after hellsweep
Heihachi players get their electric spamming ducked all the time cuz he has weak lows so they just spam db2 and twin pistons all day
eyeball_kid
Member
Bad tutorials don't mean that tutorials are bad. Look at the way language apps are gamifying learning languages. You can make a difficult subject fun to learn if you structure content in the right way and make the player feel that hit of accomplishment.
Right now you have people who think (based on hype) that they need to learn Korean Backdash when they don't even know how to get up properly. I played one of these people last night. If Namco wants to attract and keep new players (and by new players I don't just mean lapsed Tekken 3 players), they need to really provide tools to teach these people in an approachable way.
To be fair, the people with this mentality tend to be Kazuya players
Devil Jin players are happy with free juggle after hellsweep
Heihachi players get their electric spamming ducked all the time cuz he has weak lows so they just spam db2 and twin pistons all day
Devil Jin players are just people who couldn't cut it as Kazuya mains.
To be fair, the people with this mentality tend to be Kazuya players
Devil Jin players are happy with free juggle after hellsweep
Heihachi players get their electric spamming ducked all the time cuz he has weak lows so they just spam db2 and twin pistons all day
Indeed
I know a certain Gaffer aiming for this daily
Indeed
I know a certain Gaffer aiming for this daily
This is the videogame equivalent of sex.
Yea, would've been nice to get the basics quickly out of the way like some games do for you
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