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[maniac-kun]

Are they still on the run?

 

[maquiladora]

Do we know how they identified them yet?

 

[Irminsul]

Some more German front pages from tomorrow:

I didn't expect anything else from BILD but showing the fucking murder of a policeman just seconds before the act. Look at BZ for how to do it as a tabloid paper, you morons.

 

[chadskin]

AFP: #BREAKING France anti-terror raid under way in northeastern city of Reims, police say

Just published. No further information available yet.

 

[kmax]

It says, "Died laughing"



Great and sad pictures coming out. Amazing support around the world.

 

[patapuf]

Nope, there is already some people working on this question (like Serge July http://www.europe1.fr/medias-tele/les-medias-doivent-prendre-en-charge-charlie-hebdo-2337615) so that every french media help like they can to assure that Charlie Hebdo will continue.
Radio France, France Televisions and Le Monde already announced they will agreed to that : https://twitter.com/JM_De_Marchi/status/552869291029065728/photo/1

The magazine wasn't exactly doing fantastic and loosing your most famous drawers will make things difficult long term. I hope the help from the other newspapers is enough.

 

[Mimosa97]

Other press entities already offered support from their journalists to guarantee the magazine will continue. Even if Charlie Hebdo wasn't universally loved (not a big fan myself), nobody wants them to disappear because of that.



About that... GIGN is indeed very skilled, but they're usually quite clear that they'll use lethal force at any sign of threat during their operations.

Obviously. They always end up using lethal force when they have no choice but look at their success rate, look at their biggest operations. These guys aren't humans. They're the best of the best. Almost always they get the guy alive. Only once recently did they fail to do so. It was in 2012 with Merah who wanted to die as a martyr. He was heavily armed, didn't stop firing and wouldn't give up so after hours and hours they ended up shooting him.

 

[Maxim726X]

If you watch the segment, Maher and his guest didn't say that it was the majority either. The guest theorized it might be about 20% who favor laws like that, or would be persuadable to that position.

But it's much, much more than that.

In countries which have a Muslim population of greater than 80 million:

Bangladesh: 44%
Egypt: 86%
Pakistan: 76%

That's just from a quick look through. To act as if this is just a few people with radical beliefs isn't accurate, was the point they were trying to make. Some of these beliefs are much more widespread than that.

 

[funkypie]

These mirror my views on the matter.

Curious to see how Islam evolves over the coming decades.

It will take more then decades. More like many centuries.

 

[BaronLundi]

London

Foreign Embassies

Aftenposten (Oslo)

From an Iranian cartoonist

Denmark

Daughter of murdered cartoonist Wolinsky

Daddy's gone, not Wolinsky

Thanks from Paris for all the messages/images of support. Thank you, Danke, Gracias, Tak, Grazie, Shoukran, Toda.

 

[Kandrick]

Ongoing RAID operation in Reims it seems.

 

[Valhelm]

I also share this opinion.

I think pretty compelling evidence for this is the radicalization of Palestinian Muslims. I highly doubt they would hate the West and secularism as much if they were not being actively repressed by a mostly-secular Western nation.

25% of Palestinians would not support al-Qaeda if Western secularism was not such an immediate "threat".

 

[elrechazado]

You dont have to be a "fundie" to not believe in polytheism. And just for clarity, does not believe in polytheism doesnt equate to hate.

Clearly you aren't following the chain of discussion or you'd see from the context that your response is kind of a non sequitur.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Yea they would need these guys instead but like someone mentioned earlier they guard more populated areas:

That's too bad. I've seen so many of them patrolling around when I was in Paris for the last few years. It must have been boring for them. Today they missed a good opportunity for some action.

 

[Sky Chief]

The magazine wasn't exactly doing fantastic and loosing your most famous drawers will make things difficult long term. I hope the help from the other newspapers is enough.

If they keep going I am getting a subscription

 

[Trouble]

Yea they would need these guys instead but like someone mentioned earlier they guard more populated areas:

I was a bit surprised when I got off the Eurostar at Gare du Nord and there were a bunch of army looking guys with assault rifles wandering around. They definitely make their presence known.

 

[Alx]

Exactly. A bullet from a pistol isn't going to stop heavily armored attacker with superior firepower. When you are being shot at with rapid fire and heavy rounds, it is hard to aim and even get a shot out. These poor officers had no chance.

Yes and those murderers were skilled. They showed pictures of a police car at which they were shooting, and the bullet impacts were really concentrated on a specific part of the windshield. Obviously not random shooting.

edit :

 

[paperboywriter]

I didn't expect anything else from BILD but showing the fucking murder of a policeman just seconds before the act. Look at BZ for how to do it as a tabloid paper, you morons.

didnt he survive? Or was that the other one? Or am I totally wrong here?

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

I was too young around 9/11 to understand how a single act of violence could mobilize otherwise rational portions of a populace into wanting military intervention. Today, however, I find myself significantly less opposed to ground intervention against ISIS than I was yesterday.

Strength to the French and sympathy to the families of the victims. Their sacrifice for the right of freedom of speech does not go without mourning or appreciation.

 

[Cyd0nia]

I also share this opinion. The majority that are recruited by these groups are really the most uneducated people you will meet and they view secularization as some evil that will pave the way to their mothers, daughters and wives turning into prostitutes.

..which is quite a concern when you consider that some of the men going to join ISIS are taking underage girls as property and raping them

 

[Tribes of Trusty]

Shit they're like the neighbourhood next to mine, and my university is there...I don't think I'll go tomorrow...

 

[Osahi]

https://twitter.com/BrechtDC/status/552948377609322497?s=09

Sorry, on phone so hard to post pic, but this is a belgian front page. The line sais "they are armed!"

All flemish papers will publish each others cartoons tomorrow.

 

[Randam]

Some more German front pages from tomorrow:



"Attack on freedom"
"NO! You can't kill our freedom"
"We say NO to the attack on our values"
"The unholy war"
"Worldwide solidarity after terror attack"
"Coward murders!"

bild frontpage is so typical for them.
they have to show the injured policeman seconds befor he gets shot by the guy to his left..

scumbag "newspaper"..

 

[Trouble]

Daughter of murdered cartoonist Wolinsky

Daddy's gone, not Wolinsky

Damn ;_;

 

[Winterfang]

Man this sucks so much. I hope they get life in prison. To murder someone over something that stupid... =(

 

[fabricated backlash]

I didn't expect anything else from BILD but showing the fucking murder of a policeman just seconds before the act. Look at BZ for how to do it as a tabloid paper, you morons.

Don't forget they do this to protect journalistic integrity (just like they did when the entire last page was a picture of a black guy holding up the decapitated head of another man)
It has absolutely nothing to do with pandering to the german middle class morals that flirt with latent xenophobia or whatever sentiment is popular at the moment.

 

[Funky Papa]

Yes and those murderers were skilled. They showed pictures of a police car at which they were shooting, and the bullet impacts were really concentrated on a specific part of the windshield. Obviously not random shooting.

edit :

The grouping was the first thing that made me raise an eyebrow when I saw the pictures. You absolutely DO NOT get that kind of concentration from an AK without some actual training.

 

[ComputerMKII]

About that... GIGN is indeed very skilled, but they're usually quite clear that they'll use lethal force at any sign of threat during their operations.

As they should. Anyone threatening/violent enough to get the GIGN on their ass is asking for it.

 

[paperboywriter]

London


Foreign Embassies


Aftenposten (Oslo)


From an Iranian cartoonist


Denmark


Daughter of murdered cartoonist Wolinsky

Daddy's gone, not Wolinsky

Thanks from Paris for all the messages/images of support. Thank you, Danke, Gracias, Tak, Grazie, Shoukran, Toda.

I really have to say the international support is something else. I'm kind of proud of you all.

 

[Xando]

Obviously. They always end up using lethal force when they have no choice but look at their success rate, look at their biggest operations. These guys aren't humans. They're the best of the best. Almost always they get the guy alive. Only once recently did they fail to do so. It was in 2012 with Merah who wanted to die as a martyr. He was heavily armed, didn't stop firing and wouldn't give up so after hours and hours they ended up shooting him.

Yeah i guess they are similiar to the german GSG9 anti terror special forces (They fired 4 shots in over 1000 raids).
I hope they get these terrorists.

 

[fierrotlepou]

And again they're fucking scumbags returning from Syria. They probably slaughtered some people there, and they just come back to slaughter some more.

How the fuck do they even manage to get back?

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

If they keep going I am getting a subscription

I wish they would sell here in Canada. That would be awesome.

 

[chadskin]

I didn't expect anything else from BILD but showing the fucking murder of a policeman just seconds before the act. Look at BZ for how to do it as a tabloid paper, you morons.

bild frontpage is so typical for them.
they have to show injured the policeman seconds befor he gets shot by the guy to his left..

scumbag "newspaper"..

Indeed, BILD front page is by far the weakest of the German bunch. At least, that's their complete back page:

 

[malingenie]

I am still emotionally bankrupt today. There is no way for me to process this correctly today. Dying for their voices. In my home country you frequently died for your sneakers. I find that infinitely more processable than this.

 

[Pacbois]

Journalist on twitter citing an AFP source : 2 arrested, 1 killed during police raid.

 

[Sky Chief]

I wish they would sell here in Canada. That would be awesome.

Yeah, I live in the US but I'll figure out a way. They probably have an electronic subscription, right?

 

[Alx]

Almost always they get the guy alive. Only once recently did they fail to do so. It was in 2012 with Merah who wanted to die as a martyr. He was heavily armed, didn't stop firing and wouldn't give up so after hours and hours they ended up shooting him.

That's the only point on which I disagree. They also killed Kelkhal (RER B bombings), the hijackers from Marseille, the hostage taker in the Neuilly kindergarten...
They probably do what they have to do, but I'm not so confident that "they almost always get the guy alive".

 

[JohnTinker]

Sweet baby Jesus

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/05/international/middleeast/05fighters.html?_r=1&

2005 article from the New York Times listing Cherif Kouachi as a radicalized Frenchman fighting for the Iraqi insurgency that was being held in US custody

Insane to see this with the backdrop of Obama emptying out Gitmo

 

[adj_noun]

Damn. That one in particular got me.

 

[Mimosa97]

Yeah i guess they are similiar to the german GSG9 anti terror special forces (They fired 4 shots in over 1000 raids).
I hope they get these terrorists.

Exactly.

They have the same kind of trainings now. There's a lot of cooperation between these special forces.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Journalist on twitter citing an AFP source : 2 arrested, 1 killed during police raid.

If true, I hope the dead one suffered immeasurable pain before the end.

 

[lefantome]

I'm mad at what happened, I love satire and free speech is one fundamental right.

I'm with France(and the rest of Europe) we must change how we handled immigration: more controls, more legal immigration, we should stop illegal immigration ,espcially from the sea who claims thousand of deaths every year, better integration.

Equal rights and equal laws for everyone. Freedom of speech is sacred.
Help countries who want(popular support) to become a modern democracy, ignore any other unless is attacking someone. We can't be the world police therefore we shouldn't do it.

 

[paperboywriter]

Indeed, BILD front page is by far the weakest of the German bunch. At least, that's their complete back page:

havent seen or expected something like this from BILD before.

 

[Valhelm]

That's too bad. I've seen so many of them patrolling around when I was in Paris for the last few years. It must have been boring for them. Today they missed a good opportunity for some action.

I feel like the "guard the landmarks" approach to Counter-Terrorism isn't effective. Before 9/11, the World Trade Center was never as symbolic of New York as any of the famous structures that have never been touched, like the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State.

US sites like the Alamo and the Liberty Bell were closely guarded and color-coded for their vulnerability, but every attempt at a terrorist attack has involved a center of commerce or public transport, not any cultural icons. In Europe, I don't believe anyone has ever tried to destroy the Eiffel Tower, the London Eye, or the Coliseum. The Indian attacks targeted a hotel, not the Taj Mahal.

 

[Cyd0nia]

If true, I hope the dead one suffered immeasurable pain before the end.

I don't care about his feelings, I'm just glad he no longer exists and that he's had the gift of living consciousness ripped from him like he ripped it from others.

 

[SgtCobra]

If true, I hope the dead one suffered immeasurable pain before the end.

Please let it be true. And of course, let those be the actual terrorists.

 

[olore]

I am still emotionally bankrupt today. There is no way for me to process this correctly today.

You put into words how I have been feeling the whole night since learning about this horrible act. I´m shaken

This made me tear up:

Daddy's gone, not Wolinsky

 

[see5harp]

How do you kill a bunch of people over a political cartoon? Talk about barbarism.

 

[randomhugs]

my point was looking at the number of Muslims in the world as a whole, not percentages by country.

Oh, ok.

In countries in which Islam is the favored religion, apostasy is overwhelmingly believed to be punished by death.

Huh?

 

[ComputerMKII]

London


Foreign Embassies


Aftenposten (Oslo)


From an Iranian cartoonist


Denmark


Daughter of murdered cartoonist Wolinsky

Daddy's gone, not Wolinsky

Thanks from Paris for all the messages/images of support. Thank you, Danke, Gracias, Tak, Grazie, Shoukran, Toda.

That's fucking amazing. This is the best response we (as civilians) can address to the terrorists. Show them we're united against them.