proandrad
Member
Are you fan? Have you even played the last game? They were setting up for Ciri to take over the entire game. Gerald literally retired to his wine farm by the end of the Witcher 3 while Ciri continued on the path.
Braag
Member
Sure, but she's older and should be able to control her powers much better now. Also, what she lacks in speed and strength of a Witcher, she could easily compensate with her magic, which is far more potent than what Witchers can conjure up.
In the end, all I'm saying is that CDPR was always so adamant with keeping up with the lore and rules of the books. Once you break one of those main rules, it becomes easier and easier to break more of the lore.
geary
Member
Difference between a woman and a girl....Shocking, right?'Mom, I want to play with Ciri'
'We have Ciri at home.'
Ciri at home:
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The game isn't following the original story at all.
mrBarrelNut
Member
Well, the reaction so far seems to indicate that the fans are not happy. At all.
Edellus
Member
So Ciri goes through the trial of the grasses? I'm intrigued, since I understood no one who properly knew how to conduct the ritual was left alive. I guess they'll explain it in the game.
I'm rather hyped with Ciri being the main protagonist and a proper Witcher now. With her powers and Witcher skills it's got a high opportunity of having a much better combat than TW3.
I'm rather hyped with Ciri being the main protagonist and a proper Witcher now. With her powers and Witcher skills it's got a high opportunity of having a much better combat than TW3.
Banjo64
cumsessed
She's 21 in TW3. Difference between pre-BlackRock and post-BlackRock.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
1. I always thought she was ugly
2. could it just be them using a different engine? Is she the same age? like how much time has progressed from 3 to 4?
ThisIsMyDog
Member
these are not fans
TheRedRiders
Member
I always thought gaming characters would begin to look more and more "ugly" as we move more towards more realistic graphics.
Realism is just not as pretty as art.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol well Realism is art, stylistic or impressionism is also art
they are just different types
Johnny Concrete
Member
Did CDPR even make this trailer or did they outsource it to Blur Studios or something?
Either way I don't get the 'rendered on an unannounced graphics card' notion. Who gives a shit what it is rendered on?
It would look exactly the same if it was rendered on a 1080, just would take longer to render…
Either way I don't get the 'rendered on an unannounced graphics card' notion. Who gives a shit what it is rendered on?
It would look exactly the same if it was rendered on a 1080, just would take longer to render…
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
True
what bothers me about this is that its sounds like they are literally preparing themselves for some downgrade and will just point out some shit like "wow it was rendered on a unannounced card, subject to change bro"
Some CEO from CDPR stated before 2027
but....I doubt lol
Holy crap . Funny how amazing and next gen witche looked before the downgrade
Salz01
Member
Ah man…. We are talking PS6, and sucky performance on PS5 then…
Nah bro she was demsal in distress character in witcher 3. I'd rather play as letho someone cool or badass. She just comes off as Geralt off wish
I think that was Aard because of the way the monster got pushed back and the blue shit around her hand. Maybe it's an electrified version of it, like how Geralt can freeze enemies with Aard in The Witcher 3.
FalconPunch
Member
I am and I'm not buying the game. I have absolutely no interest in playing as Ciri. In fact, it would be better if they told a new story with new characters in the universe that transition to Ciri.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Yes, that will be the excuse they make at least lol
Me to. Rather play as letho all day
It's like witcher bought from wish
I'm wondering why they decided to make her take the Trial of the Grasses. This would not have technically been necessary given the path laid out for Ciri since she could have still assumed the mantle while not technically becoming a mutant.
The story and gameplay aspect could then be different as she compensates to be a Witcher through different mechanics. Maybe she has to learn or create alternatives to Witcher potions and elixirs that would otherwise kill her, research monsters and use different types of weapons and traps etc.
Ciri was raised to be more than female Geralt.
The story and gameplay aspect could then be different as she compensates to be a Witcher through different mechanics. Maybe she has to learn or create alternatives to Witcher potions and elixirs that would otherwise kill her, research monsters and use different types of weapons and traps etc.
Ciri was raised to be more than female Geralt.
I thought they would go the custom witcher route which would make sense as the game is an rpg. Seems like woke development.i do not want to play as ciri for 50 to 100 hours.she is not intresting or badass
MiguelItUp
Member
I don't understand, are people genuinely surprised that Ciri is the protagonist? My impression was that it was fairly on the nose after the last game...
proandrad
Member
That's fine, just speak for yourself then because there are fans that have been wanting and asking to play as Ciri since the last game.
FalconPunch
Member
What are you on about? I am speaking for myself. Go look at the person you quoted.
TheRedRiders
Member
What I mean is a move from more stylistic visuals to more realistic visuals. To keep a consistently visual style and language, requires characters to look a certain way.
10 years ago you could get away with having a Ciri with red pouty lips and an airbrushed or cartoonish look which gamers could coom over - now with next-gen visuals, there's significantly more facial details like scars, bruises, skin tone and texture which makes things look more "real" unless of course your expecting every female protagonist to look like a Scandinavian OF model who's had 20 thousand dollars worth of surgery.
Balducci30
Member
I just don't remember that part for some reason. Granted I finished it in 2020. Didn't it have an expansion where you played as Geralt?
Midn1ght
Member
I never finished the Witcher 3 so I don't know what happened to her by the end. I'm at the end of book 6 and I don't totally disagree when he said that plot wise, Ciri is as important as Geralt. Though again, I still have 3 books to go through and don't know if CDProjekt has been faithful to the lore. Overall, I'm not that bothered by Ciri being the main character, her story in the book in really great so far.
Now about her being a Witcher, a five seconds google search gives this:
So yeah, kinda bad on CDProjekt there specially that she don't really need to be one to be a great main characters. She was trained as a Witcher at Kaer Morhen by Geralt, Triss and other Witchers and later by Yennefer as a sorceress at Ellander. She's got everything to be a kick-ass lead.
Also on a personal level, I would have loved to have young Ciri story with the Rats to be playable in a Witcher game, don't know if it was already done in previous Witcher games but I love that part of the story.
Definetly forced diversity motive behind her being the witcher lead.rumors were it was suppose to be custom witcher in witcher 4
Firestartah
Banned
Yep and it would have been great to choose from different schools of witchers which might give different perks and a few unique abilities, make it interesting for replayability, but nah, lets go strong girl boss.
Thts because females tehnicly can't be witchers. All female witchers died during training
TheRedRiders
Member
Not me - don't you remember how that stint with Rats ended in the books? it's was almost traumatising.
proandrad
Member
My bad.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
I added charts from both Sony and Microsoft showing that over 40% of their userbase is female. I also added one with stats from a survey showing that around 25% of responders saying western rpg players are female.
Midn1ght
Member
Nankatsu
Gold Member
Imagine sticking with that idea in plain 2024.
Please, there's nothing women can't do.
/s.
Complistic
Member
I remember reading basically everyone wanted to play as Ciri in the next game after 3 came out 10 years ago.
It's OK to play as a girl sometimes, you'll be OK, I promise.
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Madflavor
Member
I'm go out on a limb here and say that if this were somewhere between 2015-2019, and CDPR announced Ciri would be the new protagonist, a lot of the same people complaining right now would not have complained back then. And I hope people here have enough reading comprehension to know "a lot" doesn't mean "all", in case you want to say "Well not me!"
I'm pretty anti-woke, but I think the constant 24/7 culture warring has inflicted brain rot in some folk, and they're seeing ghosts everywhere now. I've seen a number of people say Ciri has a fat face and a square jaw in the trailer.
Like how in the FUCK are people seeing that?
Futhermore I'm getting no girl boss vibes either. One difference between Geralt and Ciri is Geralt has lived a lot longer and understands and is used to how shitty humans are. Ciri hasn't been witching nearly as long, and likely hasn't had her spirit broken. Her getting pissed off at the people in this trailer makes sense and is totally in character for her.
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Hemingwayoffbase
Member
Isn't Ciri like an all powerful super planeswalker though? The story almost has to nerf her to make her play like a Witcher at all. So that's gonna suck.
Although maybe there will be some cool planeswalking and you'll go to some crazy places in the game. That could be cool.
Although maybe there will be some cool planeswalking and you'll go to some crazy places in the game. That could be cool.
Bojji
Member
There plenty great looking (and still cute) WOMEN in real life.
Good looking girl/young woman has high chance of retaining good looks even in her 40s. Ciri in this trailer looks like she had some unsuccessful facial surgeries.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
These events are part of the blood and wine expansion.
Stuart360
Member
Just like how wokists say not every one of these kind of decisions is because of wokism (which i feel is the case here as it was clear this is where the story was going), it also doesnt mean that every anti-wokist hates this decision because we think its agenda related.
CDPR made geralt an awesome character, in so many ways, and i myself just have no desire to play as Ciri. Geralt will always be the Witcher to me, and some Mary Sue Ciri is probably the least desirable choice for me. I probably would of preferred playing as Yennifer, at least she had the same sarcastic personalty as Geralt lol.
Also even though i believe CDPR picking Ciri was always going to happen with some of the stuff that happened in Witcher 3, just the state of the current videogame industry (and the world itself) is going to make people think this is a woke related choice, even if it isnt.
So its not anti-wokists fault, but the loopy world we currently live in.
Still assuming this game went in to full production after Phantom Liberty was finished, there probably still is 4 or 5 years left before we get this game, so anything could be changed from here on out.
CDPR made geralt an awesome character, in so many ways, and i myself just have no desire to play as Ciri. Geralt will always be the Witcher to me, and some Mary Sue Ciri is probably the least desirable choice for me. I probably would of preferred playing as Yennifer, at least she had the same sarcastic personalty as Geralt lol.
Also even though i believe CDPR picking Ciri was always going to happen with some of the stuff that happened in Witcher 3, just the state of the current videogame industry (and the world itself) is going to make people think this is a woke related choice, even if it isnt.
So its not anti-wokists fault, but the loopy world we currently live in.
Still assuming this game went in to full production after Phantom Liberty was finished, there probably still is 4 or 5 years left before we get this game, so anything could be changed from here on out.
Madflavor
Member
The current theory is that stopping the White Frost basically drained most of her power. The act of stopping it alone was enough to almost kill her. So she's depowered as a result of that. So her taking the Trial of Grass would make sense if she no longer has her Elder Blood to rely on.
I think it's pretty likely that as we level up we'll have skill trees for Witcher abilities, as well as Elder Blood as she slowly regains her power.
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