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Th Witcher 4 Announced | The Game Awards 2024

The more I think about immediately replacing the character that made your studio and made the series a smash success, the more stupid it becomes. And three games of Ciri? Good lord.

Geralt should always be the Witcher. In Witcher 3, just how much better a character is Geralt than Ciri. It's not even close. I know how Witcher 3 ended but they should either have gone back in time or figured out a way for him to come out of retirement.
 

GinSama

Member
With Geralt the hype would be real. This however is as exciting as playing mary jane only in a spiderman game (it cannot be as bad as MJ sections in recent spiderman games though, can it?).
Did you read the books?? As what she is destined to become?? Really curious how are you comparing Ciri with MJ.....


Also if they follow the books people will be very surprised about where she will go and how it will be her endgame.
 
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Shubh_C63

Member
The more I think about immediately replacing the character that made your studio and made the series a smash success, the more stupid it becomes. And three games of Ciri? Good lord.

Geralt should always be the Witcher. In Witcher 3, just how much better a character is Geralt than Ciri. It's not even close. I know how Witcher 3 ended but they should either have gone back in time or figured out a way for him to come out of retirement.
CDPR are good writers. Just how much is it believable to have every world politics revolve around just one guy Geralt. Dude had its time and it isn't like Ciri was a minor character.

Playing as Geralt again would have felt very "Plot of the week serial" story.
 
CDPR are good writers. Just how much is it believable to have every world politics revolve around just one guy Geralt. Dude had its time and it isn't like Ciri was a minor character.

Playing as Geralt again would have felt very "Plot of the week serial" story.
These mfers literally struck gold with their own videogame Batman and are immediately replacing him with a much less interesting "chosen one" female version. I'm sorry but it's dumb as hell.
 

FunkMiller

Member
The more I think about immediately replacing the character that made your studio and made the series a smash success, the more stupid it becomes. And three games of Ciri? Good lord.

Geralt should always be the Witcher. In Witcher 3, just how much better a character is Geralt than Ciri. It's not even close. I know how Witcher 3 ended but they should either have gone back in time or figured out a way for him to come out of retirement.

Geralt's story reached a natural and right conclusion in the last game. I'd much rather play as Ciri, than them do some hideous Star wars sequel type resurrection.
 

Novaex

Neo Member
While I would have preferred to play as Geralt, we know that wouldn't happen. And I take an established character like Ciri over a player created blank slate character any day, so I got my second favorite mc. Game is still years away so not really that hyped yet.
 
Geralt's story reached a natural and right conclusion in the last game. I'd much rather play as Ciri, than them do some hideous Star wars sequel type resurrection.

Give me the confidence of a studio that can create a character like that and toss him aside. I hope they're not biting the hand that feeds them.
 
The Witcher 3 was setting up Ciri to be the new protagonist the whole game. I’d say people weren’t paying attention but I think we all know what the outrage is really about…
 
I've read all the books and played all the games so here's my two cents. Geralt has already had a tremendously long story, both in the books and then in the games which are sequels to the books. It would be creatively dangerous for CDPR to further be milking out plot and character development from him. Witcher 3 DLC was a fitting send off for his character.

Where to go next? Option 1, they can fart out a new character, but there's too many problems which revolve around this, the Witcher universe is tied deeply into its story, and its characters Geralt, Ciri and Yennefer, anyone outside these three would would simply be irrelevant if we consider that CDPR want a character for the audiences to be emotionally invested in. Option 2, which is the one they have gone for is to use an already established character, and someone who the audience is comfortable with, someone who is also young and different (both in gender and power)... there's so much more story and plot you can play with as well in this regard.

CDPR made the right call in my opinion and time will show this.
 
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xrnzaaas

Member
What's more disappointing than a Ciri-led game? Plans for three Ciri games. They're not even going to test how the players will react to a new protagonist.

If Geralt's story is done they should've returned to the idea of allowing you to create your own Witcher character. I think more people would be happy with that rather than making changes to ensure Ciri is capable enough to be a new protagonist and she's properly nerfed.
 

BlackTron

Member
100%. People just can’t enjoy shit anymore without thinking there is some motive behind the creatives choices. Let’s just enjoy games and quit bitching over a games choice in main character.

There's just something...intriguing, about everyone making the same creative choice at the same time, ya know?

It's some massive planet alignment coincidence stuff right there.
 

GinSama

Member
Wait how do we know Ciri will be main protagonist for whole new trilogy?
Well I can see them doing 3 games easy...I mean she will became an monster hunter on her own right.

Right before she meet a certain person in a certain "place" fulfilling her destiny ....

So for better or worse she will probably have 3 games.
 
I'm Fine with Ciri being the main character. It is expected. Just don't like her new "redesign". Also, this one won't release until at least late 2026 if lucky.
 
Ciri probably won't be have a face like that in the game. Yes she can be older but something is off about her face.

On the other hand Ciri as a Witcher would be very interesting. Because Ciri was a Source and if they didn't retconned anything we maybe have more powerful magics in the gameplay instead of meager Witcher signs.
 
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I've read all the books and played all the games so here's my two cents. Geralt has already had a tremendously long story, both in the books and then in the games which are sequels to the books. It would be creatively dangerous for CDPR to further be milking out plot and character development from him. Witcher 3 DLC was a fitting send off for his character.

For most gamers though he's been around for exactly one game.

Also - can you really say Ciri is nearly as compelling a character as Geralt? The whole idea of being a world-weary monster slayer who is extremely good at what he does and does it without fanfare because it's his job, even as people judge him as a mutant freak, all while bedding hot sorceresses. That's a tremendously appealing hook to experience the world through. I just don't know how they're going to make Ciri nearly as interesting. The Chosen One stuff certainly never interested me much.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
Ciri is awesome asnd the arc was planned long ago. Ciri is now full witcher based on the potion consumption and still has elven magic. So I think it's likely there will be more and bigger supernatural threats from the Aen Elle. Imagine elven magic infused witcher spells.

“There was an intention behind this choice,” Kalemba said. “It was far from roulette. It wasn't random. I remember we had discussions nine years ago, we were talking about who's next? The very, very instant answer was Ciri. There are many reasons behind that. We've already mentioned a few. But she really deserves a stage and we want players to really experience her story because she has so much to tell, so much to prove. The amount of challenges that are in front of her give us so much amazing energy and fuel to create an epic saga that we had no choice but to go with it. We all felt that this is the way. I believe this is the super right choice.”
 

Oberstein

Member
Ciri is awesome asnd the arc was planned long ago. Ciri is now full witcher based on the potion consumption and still has elven magic. So I think it's likely there will be more and bigger supernatural threats from the Aen Elle. Imagine elven magic infused witcher spells.

“There was an intention behind this choice,” Kalemba said. “It was far from roulette. It wasn't random. I remember we had discussions nine years ago, we were talking about who's next? The very, very instant answer was Ciri. There are many reasons behind that. We've already mentioned a few. But she really deserves a stage and we want players to really experience her story because she has so much to tell, so much to prove. The amount of challenges that are in front of her give us so much amazing energy and fuel to create an epic saga that we had no choice but to go with it. We all felt that this is the way. I believe this is the super right choice.”

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Yeah, that's what they say. "Trust me, bro". In the meantime, there will be no Witcher creation imposed, as has long been rumored. Whether that's better or not remains to be seen.
 

zokie

Member
i was asked " In W4 will you still buy if Ciri was trans instead of Tomboy ? "

i guess i shall wait till more information in 2025/26
 
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That's exactly what I want to see from a Witcher: getting super emotional, screaming, getting attached to people you met literally 13 seconds ago, extreme frustration over a life lost, brutal retribution towards superstitious and clearly low IQ townspeople.
This is the only route they can go - what you saw in the trailer - a Witcher with a heart, and more of an emphasis on social justice. Yay.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
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Yeah, that's what they say. "Trust me, bro". In the meantime, there will be no Witcher creation imposed, as has long been rumored. Whether that's better or not remains to be seen.

If I may speak my truth, I thought it was pretty obvious. The number of male witchers was dropping, so was the number of monsters. The new threat was Eredin to Ciri. Yennefer discovered the mutagens needed to start the Trial of the Grasses again, I'm guessing with he rmagic she's found a way to make them less destructive and also either adapt them to allow women witchers or develop another female specific trial.

So technically where did the story go with a tiny number of sterile old men and no new witchers, or kids if Yen was successful? I'm against woke shite as much as anyone on here, but this is a massive reach. It's like accusing Chloe Fraser of being a girl boss in Lost Legacy exactly like Nadine in UC4.

And besides all this, people actually liked the Ciri levels in Witcher 3 and wanted more. Trust me, this will be superb.
 
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PeteBull

Member
For comparision thats how proper witcher cgi can look, huge difference in talent of ppl who made it

august 2013 so over 11years ago, barely any progress technically, huge regress in everything else(pace, story, actual messege and overall hype).

Not judging game coz we didnt see game but that cgi trailer is trash af, at least from my pov.
And ofc they had to make ciri's face older/uglier, cdpr is corpo now, and they cant allow male gaze :p
 
For most gamers though he's been around for exactly one game.

Also - can you really say Ciri is nearly as compelling a character as Geralt? The whole idea of being a world-weary monster slayer who is extremely good at what he does and does it without fanfare because it's his job, even as people judge him as a mutant freak, all while bedding hot sorceresses. That's a tremendously appealing hook to experience the world through. I just don't know how they're going to make Ciri nearly as interesting. The Chosen One stuff certainly never interested me much.

I completely understand what you're saying. I honestly wasn't a big fan of Ciri (neither Yennefer for that matter), but I was mostly indifferent to her character and after seeing the reveal I can see CDPR's vision of what they want to do with her character.

In no universe is Ciri as compelling as Geralt, nor will she ever be but she is the next best thing. Us diehard game fans, and I'm sure that's a lot of us here understand that Geralt's story has concluded and the final chapters have been written, to drag him out of his slumber again just seems cheap and disrespectful to his legacy.

Ciri is both extremely similar to Geralt yet at the same time so extremely different, and as an already established character they can create a narrative and plot which will continues the legacy of the story started in the books and previous games.

I'm optimistic yes, but I also sympathise with those who may be pessimistic. Like I said though, time will tell.
 

STARSBarry

Gold Member
I wonder how this will work with the multiple endings of three for her or if they just go fuck it and pick one and say that's canon..

I honestly wanted a Ciri spin off game since Witcher 3. So this makes me happy in that regard.
 
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For comparision thats how proper witcher cgi can look, huge difference in talent of ppl who made it

august 2013 so over 11years ago, barely any progress technically, huge regress in everything else(pace, story, actual messege and overall hype).

Not judging game coz we didnt see game but that cgi trailer is trash af, at least from my pov.
And ofc they had to make ciri's face older/uglier, cdpr is corpo now, and they cant allow male gaze :p


Yeah, when i was watching the new trailer i immediately thought about the killing monsters trailer and how it seems like they tried to imitate it but they failed miserably, zero emotional impact and a cheap imitation compared to an 11 year old trailer.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Hard to get hyped over a CGI trailer. Game is probably years away that'll be on the PS6.
 

AgatonSax

Member
There’s no confirmation you play Ciri as main character. The first trailer for Witcher 2 starred Letho, did you think you were playing as him?

Ciri looks different because she is older. She has also lost the Australian accent.

Geralt deserved his happy ending; let’s move on with the story.
 

thefool

Member
I don’t trust cdpr due to the numerous changes they have undergone, exposing them to be influenced by cultural inputs that are being decisively rejected. Given this, it’s hard for me to believe these choices are sincere even though I do not think (trailer) Ciri is ugly nor is her choice to lead surprising. Yes, she’s a bore in both the books and the games, but she was set up to be important moving forward.

Canonically, it doesn’t make sense for Ciri to become a witcher (way past an age to be put to test, she has elder blood and Geralt would never ever want this for her). Game-wise, the vast majority of players do not want to play a lankey 130lbs girl in a fantasy setting slaying monsters game. She also isn’t Geralt, portraying her as some kind of girl boss is plain idiotic.
 

Hugare

Member
After every fucking game with a woman is shown: "WOKE"

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She doesnt look like a model, but she is also no Concord character. She just looks older and more realistic.

CDPR hasnt disapointed yet in terms of characters and I doubt that they will start now. Phantom Liberty feminine characters were awesome (and Songbird was gorgeous)
 

NEbeast

Banned
Witcher is not about her. It is about Geralt and u know why they put her there.
She is one of the main characters. This isn't like making you do stealth missions as MJ. I swear, some of you right wingers are more sensitive than the woke mob.
 
I completely understand what you're saying. I honestly wasn't a big fan of Ciri (neither Yennefer for that matter), but I was mostly indifferent to her character and after seeing the reveal I can see CDPR's vision of what they want to do with her character.

In no universe is Ciri as compelling as Geralt, nor will she ever be but she is the next best thing. Us diehard game fans, and I'm sure that's a lot of us here understand that Geralt's story has concluded and the final chapters have been written, to drag him out of his slumber again just seems cheap and disrespectful to his legacy.

Ciri is both extremely similar to Geralt yet at the same time so extremely different, and as an already established character they can create a narrative and plot which will continues the legacy of the story started in the books and previous games.

I'm optimistic yes, but I also sympathise with those who may be pessimistic. Like I said though, time will tell.

Fair response. In one sense I appreciate that they actually ended Geralt's story and it was a fitting end - but it makes it a bit of a problem if you want to continue the series.

I can't deny that the fact that it's a woman does bother me. I'm not a fan of shoehorning women into traditional male archetypes. Geralt is like Batman, Wolverine and Aragorn all rolled into one - and female versions of that just don't interest me as much. If they really wanted to ditch Geralt, they should have brought in a new male Witcher, and Ciri should have been just an important character in the game.
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
We got 3 games with Geralt and we're also getting a remake of the first and maybe second so Im ok with Ciri being the lead, I mean we already knew ages ago thats going to be the case. Day one.
 

YOU PC BRO?!

Gold Member
Ciri was never all that interesting as a character. In the story, it was always more about what she is rather than who she is. Serious downgrade if we no longer get to play as Gerard.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I am totally fine with Ciri being the lead, and was expecting her to be. She was great in TW3, well written and interesting, and her connection with Geralt elevated the story.

But this is current_year, so when I see her character design change that much it sets off major alarm bells. Hopefully turns out well.
 
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