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[Kotetsu534]

No idea why you would only consider finalists in evaluating how tough the feat was. At the very least all 28 matches need to be considered (though I'd argue performance at other tournaments should be looked at as well, which likely favours Graf due to the Olympics).

 

[perfectchaos007]

I can sense this convo is going to head down the "weak era" route. Let's wait until if/when Serena completes the calendar slam to argue GOATs. Serena, Graf, Court, or other will be the poll question on saturday if Serena wins this title

 

[oti]

Why does Serena even try stops? Just crush her with your groundstrokes.

 

[TJ Verboten]

Serena can't control who's on the other side of the net.

No doubt, not her fault in the slighest, but when measuring seasons/champions against one another, scalps/quality of opponent matters.
i.e. what's a better win -
Agassi over Sampras in 95' Australian Open final?
or
Agassi over Rainer Schuttler in 03' Australian Open Final?
Both are slams, but one win is objectively greater than the other
Obviously great wins can occur on the way to the final, but i havent looked that up yet

 

[oti]

Was that Bartoli?

 

[LuuKyK]

Serena saving all these BPs with aces. lol

Was that Bartoli?

Yes, she looks much fitter than when she played.

 

[sam777]

Vinci breaks, good to see her putting up a fight.

 

[oti]

Serena saving all these BPs with aces. lol



Yes, she looks much fitter than when she played.

Yes, she looks great!

Chokerena?

 

[John Dunbar]

serena just wants to make it seem like she had competition to be "a fighter".

 

[szaromir]

No doubt, not her fault in the slighest, but when measuring seasons/champions against one another, scalps/quality of opponent matters.
i.e. what's a better win -
Agassi over Sampras in 95' Australian Open final?
or
Agassi over Rainer Schuttler in 03' Australian Open Final?
Both are slams, but one win is objectively greater than the other
Obviously great wins can occur on the way to the final, but i havent looked that up yet

The idea is to prepare for the event and to be the best of the field at that event. Say you're a track & field athlete and are 3rd at 100m sprint with the time of 9.91s, while the guys ahead of you are 9.78s and 9.83s. You win the gold medal 2 years later with the of 9.9s. Will you bemoan yourself that you're not as good as your rivals at their best?

 

[perfectchaos007]

Vinci is just one service game from taking the set. Let's see if Serena has enough fight to break back

 

[LuuKyK]

Vinci is just one service game from taking the set. Let's see if Serena has enough fight to break back

Its pretty obvious Serena will break her next and the proceed not to lose a point in her service game. Typical dramarena.

 

[szaromir]

Its pretty obvious Serena will break her next and the proceed not to lose a point in her service game. Typical dramarena.

Nope.

 

[John Dunbar]

over or under 2.5 games for vinci in the third?

 

[perfectchaos007]

Lol I think Serena will win set 3 comfortably but who knows

 

[Milchmann]

Looks like the usual Serena script but Vinci is playing surprisingly well.

 

[sam777]

Decider, anything can happen.

 

[Omzz]

A calendar slam spoiled by vinci

What a headline it would be

 

[Silkworm]

What a nice surprise! Vinci takes advantage of Serena's dip in the 2nd set and gets her first ever set from Serena. Third set could be interesting even if I expect Serena to pull it out. At least this match is more interesting than it looked going into the 2nd set.

edit:

A calendar slam spoiled by vinci

What a headline it would be

Veni, Vidi, Vinci? ;-)

 

[TJ Verboten]

The idea is to prepare for the event and to be the best of the field at that event. Say you're a track & field athlete and are 3rd at 100m sprint with the time of 9.91s, while the guys ahead of you are 9.78s and 9.83s. You win the gold medal 2 years later with the of 9.9s. Will you bemoan yourself that you're not as good as your rivals at their best?

No, I'd be thrilled to win a Gold Medal.
Some wins are sweeter than others, for instance the 06' Colts talk about how their win against the Patriots in the conference championship game meant more than their Super Bowl victory over the Bears.
Pats had bern their nemesis for so long, having eliminated them in 03, 04, thus the win was sweeter, plus the whole coming back from 21-3 down to win 38-34 made it a classic.

But first things first, Serena's gotta do her part in this 3rd set

 

[John Dunbar]

line judges clearly biased. hawkeye to the rescue.

 

[MIMIC]

Thanks a lot, Drake

 

[perfectchaos007]

Serena's service game has been bad all tournament.

 

[Jack Remington]

Vinci is kind of the sport's only hope right now. Unreal.

 

[sam777]

line judges clearly biased. hawkeye to the rescue.

The previous one on the Ad side looked pretty long as well.
I am starting to believe that Vinci may pull this off.

 

[Ricker]

''Hulk'' mode engaged lol

 

[John Dunbar]

it's 2-2 on her own serve against her pigeon and serena is going crazy. obnoxious as fuck. shame there is no chance of her losing this.

 

[dubc35]

it's 2-2 on her own serve against her pigeon and serena is going crazy. obnoxious as fuck. shame there is no chance of her losing this.

Why is she yelling so much? Watching on mute in a restaurant so can't really tell. Seems classless without the audio perspective but maybe I'm missing something.

 

[szaromir]

Why is she yelling so much? Watching on mute in a restaurant so can't really tell. Seems classless without the audio perspective but maybe I'm missing something.

No reason other than wanting to get into the opponent's head.

 

[LuuKyK]

Serena's reactions are really unnecessary even more so considering she did those after errors from Vinci. It makes her look stupid.

 

[Omzz]

Uggglyyyy

 

[Niraj]

Wow, lucky there

 

[Milchmann]

Vinci pls, this isn't doubles.

 

[dubc35]

No reason other than wanting to get into the opponent's head.

That's what I figured but couldn't tell sans audio. Thanks

 

[Omzz]

Damn that was awesome by vinci

 

[MIMIC]

Dis is gud

 

[Space Avocat]

hahaha awesome reaction

 

[hbkdx12]

Holy shit at that last volley

 

[sam777]

How could you not want Vinci to win.

 

[MIMIC]

Oh shit

 

[totoro'd]

oh sh*t

 

[Omzz]

The drake effect

 

[Niraj]

._.

 

[John Dunbar]

doing a lot better than expected, but vinci needs to hold here to even make this interesting.

 

[Milchmann]

Vinci, the mental GOAT.

 

[Kotetsu534]

Wow, this isn't actually gonna happen, is it?

 

[oti]

WHAT IS GOING ON

 

[szaromir]

edit: false observation.

 

[Chumpion]

Close it the fuck out, Vinci. It's now or never!

 

[Niraj]

The people who bought finals tickets are sweating.