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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion |OT|

raYne

Member
MirageDwarf said:
I've been collecting them but haven't got any armor yet. Is there anything special about it except beautiful look? Any special power?
You make your own armor/weapons with them. So can choose to make normal armor or magic armor, each piece having a set enchantment.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
MirageDwarf said:
I've been collecting them but haven't got any armor yet. Is there anything special about it except beautiful look? Any special power?

I'm trying to collect amber. Any good places to check in shivering isles? (north/south directions are really what I'm looking for)
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Dangerous Porno Pipeline said:
I'm trying to collect amber. Any good places to check in shivering isles? (north/south directions are really what I'm looking for)
Amber is in Mania (I think that's the north). Gnarls have some pretty often, and the dungeons at the roots of trees have quite a bit as well. There are deposits like the silver deposits in the main game, as well as those hollowed out stumps.

Also, your handle is the best I've seen since Hitler Stole My Potato. :lol
 

Clevinger

Member
When I was playing SI earlier, I heard a rumour that a knight of the (black?) thorn was in SI in a certain village. Does anyone know more about this? Is there a quest involved? What village? Where is the village?

I remember being in that faction in Oblivion (I don't remember if it was mandatory in the main quest or not).

thanks
 

GreekWolf

Member
@#*& SKIN HOUNDS!!

Man am I pissed. Why can I not outrun those things? My speed is maxed out and I can easily blow past anything in Cyrodill... but those damn dogs track me down everywhere I go.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
GreekWolf said:
@#*& SKIN HOUNDS!!

Man am I pissed. Why can I not outrun those things? My speed is maxed out and I can easily blow past anything in Cyrodill... but those damn dogs track me down everywhere I go.
Yeah, they're fast as hell. Fire does a lot of damage to them. I found I can take them down pretty easy by stepping in close, and then back again when they start their tearing/biting animation, similar to wolves.

All of the creatures in Shivering Isles seem more challenging to fight. The guys that turn invisible (just met the Brute form of them - OW OW OW), the grummites are incredibly fast aggressive melee fighters, even the heretics are deadly and summon flesh atronochs. There's a feeling of danger to most fights in the game.

Just met the third notch up on the giant ant/matis bugs. I forget the name of them, but it's the level after Drone. Holy. Freaking. Crap. I must have gone through a half dozen potions or more trying to take her down. 0_0
 

Tabris

Member
I think the only thing that REALLY frustrates me in this game is "escort" missions with people who can die. I mean sure, I don't mind protecting but they always run infront of me and I slash them when trying to hit the enemy or just stand in the way in general.

I've gotten 4 "murders" that I had to load my save again as I'm trying to go pure my first run. My second run I'm going for a murdering thief. It'll be awesome.

The hardest part so far for the above is the reclaiming of ...what's the name again... starts with a K I beleive. People keep on telling me I'm the hero of it... argh, tip of my tongue (well finger :p ). Oh well, that one. Where there was like 4 people with me at the least, which was AWESOME but I kept on accidently slashing them.
 

Quazar

Member
SI is really beautiful, well done. Haven't done much of main quest, only sides. Good fun though and got me back into game.
 

GreekWolf

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Yeah, they're fast as hell. Fire does a lot of damage to them. I found I can take them down pretty easy by stepping in close, and then back again when they start their tearing/biting animation, similar to wolves.

All of the creatures in Shivering Isles seem more challenging to fight. The guys that turn invisible (just met the Brute form of them - OW OW OW), the grummites are incredibly fast aggressive melee fighters, even the heretics are deadly and summon flesh atronochs. There's a feeling of danger to most fights in the game.

Just met the third notch up on the giant ant/matis bugs. I forget the name of them, but it's the level after Drone. Holy. Freaking. Crap. I must have gone through a half dozen potions or more trying to take her down. 0_0
Good advice, Ghaleon. I haven't tried torching the mutts but will certainly do so in the future. Most of my encounters with skin hounds has been when I've just exited a tough dungeon and am in the process of trying to heal myself and repair armor, which leaves me at a decided disadvantage. They always seem to leap out of the bushes and start tearing large chunks out of my hindquarters. Nasty things.

haha so you've met my good friend, Mr. Scallon! They are extremely tough at the Brute level, especially when they've cloaked themselves and snuck up behind you to get in a few cheap shots before you even realize what's happening.

The bug things... are you talking about the praying mantis-like creatures? I just finished a quest dungeon with them last night, and that was probably the most difficult hour and a half I've experienced in the entire game. After Drone is the Nobles, I think, and they can stun you with their blows and even knock you unconscious.

Overall, the creatures in Shivering Isles are so much more intimidating that it's almost like they are part of a different game.
 

GreekWolf

Member
Oh, and before I forget, here's a valuable tip - do NOT fight Knights of the Order off the road!

They can disarm you quite easily, sending your prized weapon flying across the screen and landing under dense foliage, making it almost impossible to find.

I spent nearly 45 minutes trying to recover my Goldbrand, after getting disarmed and watching it drop down the side of a mountain. I invented a few new curse words that day.
 
GreekWolf said:
Oh, and before I forget, here's a valuable tip - do NOT fight Knights of the Order off the road!

They can disarm you quite easily, sending your prized weapon flying across the screen and landing under dense foliage, making it almost impossible to find.

I spent nearly 45 minutes trying to recover my Goldbrand, after getting disarmed and watching it drop down the side of a mountain. I invented a few new curse words that day.

Fantastic :D Most people would have reloaded at that point. I try not to do that in these types of games... I had a very similar situation occur with my weapon, but I could not retrieve it. Rather than reload, I just went on with life until I found a replacement. It sure made some of the following battles interesting, since all I had was some busted up shortsword until I at least made it to the next town :lol
 

Kabouter

Member
Heh, just did Thoronir's goods quest, took a somewhat creative approach.
I pickpocketed Agarmir's sword when I was following me because I knew he'd fight me in the tomb :lol
 

Gadeus

Member
I just beat the expansion, and while the game was good, I am very unhappy with the ending.
Sheogorath being removed from the storyline basically ruins a lot of the Elder Scrolls universe for me, since he was one of my favorite reoccurring characters throughout the games, even before Oblivion. It was a pretty huge revelation that Jyggalag was the true Daedric prince, and that he's the "real" version of Sheogorath, which I'm fine with. However, I can't see them ever allowing the new "Sheogorath" (you) to appear in any future Elder Scrolls because of the different player avatar looks, unless the player evolves into the old Sheogorath, and ES5 takes place around a hundred years after the events of Oblivion or something like that.

I didn't do any of the side quests, so it looks like I still have a lot of content to exhaust. I'm pretty happy with the amount of content in SI, while I was somewhat unhappy with all of the Morrowind expansions in terms of value.
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Kabouter said:
Mmmmh, I wanna get into increasing my conjuration skill, but it's well below 25. How do I increase it? Or am I stuck with it? :p

Go to Imperial City and buy a bound-helmet or bound-dagger spell and just keep using it. Walk around and just keep casting it. I am a pure Norde Warrior. I did this yesterday and I leveled up fast. Plus, the bound-dagger spell came in very handy during a certain mission of the main quest....
 
Last night, I finished quest given by Duke of Mania. I like this one. I also found my first item for Museum of Oddities.

I created new custom spell with weakness to fire followed by fire damage, plus same thing for shock/frost in single spell. So it works on all kind of enemies.
 

Kabouter

Member
DenogginizerOS said:
Go to Imperial City and buy a bound-helmet or bound-dagger spell and just keep using it. Walk around and just keep casting it. I am a pure Norde Warrior. I did this yesterday and I leveled up fast. Plus, the bound-dagger spell came in very handy during a certain mission of the main quest....
Thanks mate!
 

teiresias

Member
My Oblivion install seems to be completely unstable. I'm currently
escorting Martin from Kvatch to Weynon Priory,
and the game has crashed on me at least ten times while just walking that distance. Somtimes out of thin air, sometimes in battle. Sometimes it dumps me to the desktop, sometimes the PC completely resets. I'd blame my rig if it exhibited any signs of instability while doing anything other than playing Oblivion, but it doesn't. I only even entertain the rig being the issue because I'm using an Asrock mobo for the S939 dual-core Athlon, which sometimes gives people stability issues, but as I said, it's rock solid in every other game and even running the SMP Folding@Home client nonstop most of the time it's powered.

Can I just backup my savegame folder in the Oblivion directory and reinstall the game to see if that clears up my issues? It's really getting annoying and if a reinstall doesn't work I may just plunk down the money for the PS3 version to get rid of the annoyance, even though I really do love playing it on the PC.
 

bigswords

Member
GreekWolf said:
Oh, and before I forget, here's a valuable tip - do NOT fight Knights of the Order off the road!

They can disarm you quite easily, sending your prized weapon flying across the screen and landing under dense foliage, making it almost impossible to find.

I spent nearly 45 minutes trying to recover my Goldbrand, after getting disarmed and watching it drop down the side of a mountain. I invented a few new curse words that day.

Holy shit lol I know how you feel when fighting enemies in dense foliage and they drop a really sweet weapon....but it's so hard to pick it up.

Oblivion should have a "alt" loot find button like diablo hehe
 

XSamu

Banned
Kabouter said:
Mmmmh, I wanna get into increasing my conjuration skill, but it's well below 25. How do I increase it? Or am I stuck with it? :p
It's really easy. Just keep casting conjuration spells, over and over again. It will level like that, rly fast.
 

Kabouter

Member
XSamu said:
It's really easy. Just keep casting conjuration spells, over and over again. It will level like that, rly fast.
I know that, but I didn't have a conjuration spell that I could cast ;).
I know where to get one now though :)
 

GhaleonEB

Member
GreekWolf said:
Good advice, Ghaleon. I haven't tried torching the mutts but will certainly do so in the future. Most of my encounters with skin hounds has been when I've just exited a tough dungeon and am in the process of trying to heal myself and repair armor, which leaves me at a decided disadvantage. They always seem to leap out of the bushes and start tearing large chunks out of my hindquarters. Nasty things.

haha so you've met my good friend, Mr. Scallon! They are extremely tough at the Brute level, especially when they've cloaked themselves and snuck up behind you to get in a few cheap shots before you even realize what's happening.

The bug things... are you talking about the praying mantis-like creatures? I just finished a quest dungeon with them last night, and that was probably the most difficult hour and a half I've experienced in the entire game. After Drone is the Nobles, I think, and they can stun you with their blows and even knock you unconscious.

Overall, the creatures in Shivering Isles are so much more intimidating that it's almost like they are part of a different game.
Yeah, the Scallon Brutes are nasty. There's a cave called Swampgas on the far east coast. Follow the coast along the edge south - it breaks off into a peninsula pointing south. The cave is at the tip of it, and it's packed with nothing but Scallons until the final (forth) section, when the mantis creatures are introduced again. Theres a "boss" fight in the last chamber with three Scallon Brutes and a Noble. (YMMV depending on level - I was 15.)

That cave had the best loot in SI so far, spread accross four huge sections - took me an hour and a half to clear it out.

I think I know the one you're talking about on the main quest -
did you have to keep taking a drug during the cave to keep your health from dropping?
. I fought so many of those bugs my enchanged weapons broke - and I was Armorer level 42, so I couldn't fix them. I spent 1/2 the cave just running through to the end, grabbed the Challace and ran out. :lol

Heading back in there tonight to clear it out fully.
 
teiresias said:
Can I just backup my savegame folder in the Oblivion directory and reinstall the game to see if that clears up my issues?
Yes. It works without any problem. Backup you savegame, reinstall Oblivion, copy that directory back, get your saved game back. I did it once. For patch v1.2, I ran into weird problem, and it stopped working. So I reinstalled Oblivion.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Another thing about the creatures: many of them fight on land and in the water. In Oblivion, if I was getting reamed on land I'd just head to the closest water (if there was any) and I was safe. Not so here - Baliwogs and Scallons are excellent swimmers, and the Elytra can WALK ON THE WATER, like a waterbug. Yikes. Nowhere is safe.

A few other random observations:

-One of my biggest disappointments about Oblivion was the lack of interesting stuff underwater. I literally spent hours upon hours swimming around the bottom of the lakes and off the coasts looking for hidden stuff and never found more than the occasional clam shell or chest with a couple of gold. There is MUCH loot off the coast of Shivering Isles. Lots of grummite egg clusters, sunken strutures and some positively bursting treasure chests.

-I looked up the name of the Elytra's at a wiki because it was driving me nuts, and learned about some of the Easter eggs in Shivering Isles. Needless to say, I'm going to find the Fight Club tonight, as well as the failed experiment. :lol
 
GhaleonEB said:
-I looked up the name of the Elytra's at a wiki because it was driving me nuts, and learned about some of the Easter eggs in Shivering Isles. Needless to say, I'm going to find the Fight Club tonight, as well as the failed experiment. :lol

Tell me more.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Great Rumbler said:
Tell me more.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Easter_Eggs

Fight Club
If you go to the roof area of Crucible at night, you will find two citizens of Crucible fighting each other. Other citizens may be watching and cheering. Different members of this "Fight Club" fight on different nights. The orc bartender will mention that this is a private society, and that you should not interfere. The note inside the jewelry box on the bar (sneak behind the orc to unlock it) will have a little more information. If you have completed The Lady of Paranoia in the main quest, you will find a note labelled Liturgy of the Duelists on Muurine's corpse, which relates to the "Fight Club".

Roofs of Crucible/Secret Stash
In Crucible there are all sorts of strange items on the roofs of the buildings. In addition to the local Fight Club, you will find various articles of clothing, and a particularly amusing "murder" scene that is made up of a few small bones and some blood, a rusty knife, a lot of bird feathers, and the result, a Potion of Feather.

On one of the highest roofs, you will find a note on a stool beside some bottles of Roofwater wine and a key. Both are part of a small unmarked quest involving the final belongings of a paranoid roof dwelling citizen.

Attacking Sheogorath
If you attack Sheogorath he will cast a spell on you that will immediately transport you thousands of feet above the Shivering Isles. You will fall to your death and at this time there appears to be no way to live through the ordeal so save before trying.

Lots more at the link, but those are the ones I'm going after tonight. Don't know why I never thought of whacking Sheogorath. :lol
 
GhaleonEB said:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Easter_Eggs



Lots more at the link, but those are the ones I'm going after tonight. Don't know why I never thought of whacking Sheogorath. :lol
I accidentally discovered fight club yesterday. In that same quest, I was following that guy, and he went on the roof at night. I saw people fighting and practicing. Didn't know it's easter egg.

Attacking Sheogorath will be fun. I'll try that. :D
 

raYne

Member
GhaleonEB said:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Easter_Eggs

Lots more at the link, but those are the ones I'm going after tonight. Don't know why I never thought of whacking Sheogorath. :lol
I found the fight club on day one. It's not so much a fight club as it's a "stand there and swing at each other" club.

Never tried the Sheogorath one, but I've heard about it. I'll try it when I get bored enough. It's not something I would've done on my own though. I mean, who attacks a God? :lol

The Roofs of Crucible stuff looks interesting. I was hopping around on the rooftops on the first day I got there (that's how I found the "fight" club), but I wasn't really looking for anything. Looks like that's about to change. :D
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Hey all, doing the "The Coming Storm" quest in Shivering Isles.

I
currently have the calming pants and the ring of dessication, and I'm trying to get the amulet of disintegration right now. It's in the dungeon Milchar, which I was just exploring. Unfortunately, when I approach the canister it's in, the game says it's frozen shut. There's a ritual torch in the room, but when I try to pick it up, it says "the ritual torch can be held by any, but owned by none. How the hell do I open the chest where the amulet is?!
 

Deepblue

Banned
So, since I'm wrapping up Crackdown, and itching for some good adventuring, where might I get Oblivion for less than $60? I can't believe it hasn't dropped in price yet.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Haha, nevermind guys! I figured it out.

i forgot you can temporarily pick up things with LB. Picked up the torch, lit the frozen pyres on the three edges of the room, and the box unlocked. The amulet is mine. :)
 
My wife is having a few issues with Oblivion, thought maybe someone here could help.

1 - She downloaded the Shivering Isles, but can't figure out how to find them. When she loads her game, there's no message, nothing in her quest log, and no special guardsmen outside of Bravil (I'm guessing there's supposed to be according to the Shivering Isles faq on Gamefaqs).

2 - There's a naked man following her around named "Carodis Oholin" that she picked up in "Knights of the Nine", and she CAN'T get rid of him. If she kills him, he just comes back... and this is putting a damper on her vampiric lifestyle, since he'll follow her into a house and start crying if she bites someone.

Anyone know how to get around these issues?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Banjo Tango said:
My wife is having a few issues with Oblivion, thought maybe someone here could help.

1 - She downloaded the Shivering Isles, but can't figure out how to find them. When she loads her game, there's no message, nothing in her quest log, and no special guardsmen outside of Bravil (I'm guessing there's supposed to be according to the Shivering Isles faq on Gamefaqs).
You have to let 24 game hours pass before anything happens. I just used the "wait" command for a full day. You'll know what to do after that.

2 - There's a naked man following her around named "Carodis Oholin" that she picked up in "Knights of the Nine", and she CAN'T get rid of him. If she kills him, he just comes back... and this is putting a damper on her vampiric lifestyle, since he'll follow her into a house and start crying if she bites someone.

Never had that one, and I played through KotN. Weird.
 
GhaleonEB said:
You have to let 24 game hours pass before anything happens. I just used the "wait" command for a full day. You'll know what to do after that.
Cool, that did the trick - thanks!

GhaleonEB said:
Never had that one, and I played through KotN. Weird.
I've found only one other mention of it, and I can't seem to dig it up again. I guess I got the name wrong, it's "Carodus Oholin". All his armor has broken and fallen away, and now he's just this naked nuisance who ruins her sneaking and won't let her suck blood.

Hopefully he won't follow her to the Shivering Isles.

Edit - He doesn't. Woohoo!
 
Deepblue said:
So, since I'm wrapping up Crackdown, and itching for some good adventuring, where might I get Oblivion for less than $60? I can't believe it hasn't dropped in price yet.
Well Xbox 360/PS3 versions sell for $59.99. So it's good to go to you. :) If you have PC that can run Oblivion on decent settings, PC version sells for $39.99. Additional $19.99 gets you KoTN which has all downloads included.

Banjo Tango said:
I've found only one other mention of it, and I can't seem to dig it up again. I guess I got the name wrong, it's "Carodus Oholin". All his armor has broken and fallen away, and now he's just this naked nuisance who ruins her sneaking and won't let her suck blood.

Hopefully he won't follow her to the Shivering Isles.

Edit - He doesn't. Woohoo!
Generally, if someone is following you, and if you talk to that person, you get an option to choose either to allow him/her to follow or to wait.
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
Deepblue said:
So, since I'm wrapping up Crackdown, and itching for some good adventuring, where might I get Oblivion for less than $60? I can't believe it hasn't dropped in price yet.

Deepblue, Circuit City will have the X360 version for $49.99 next week.

I should have a copy of this game next week...finally get to see why people love this game (never played a game in the Elder Scrolls series)
 

Azrael

Member
Tabris said:
I think the only thing that REALLY frustrates me in this game is "escort" missions with people who can die. I mean sure, I don't mind protecting but they always run infront of me and I slash them when trying to hit the enemy or just stand in the way in general.

I've gotten 4 "murders" that I had to load my save again as I'm trying to go pure my first run. My second run I'm going for a murdering thief. It'll be awesome.

The hardest part so far for the above is the reclaiming of ...what's the name again... starts with a K I beleive. People keep on telling me I'm the hero of it... argh, tip of my tongue (well finger :p ). Oh well, that one. Where there was like 4 people with me at the least, which was AWESOME but I kept on accidently slashing them.

I was going for the heroic route and found out after finishing the battle of Kvatch, and after saving my game, that I had "murdered" one of the Imperial Legion soldiers, and my previous save was before entering the Oblivion gate. Needless to say I was pretty pissed.

I managed to win the battle of Kvatch the second time through only losing one soldier by Convalescing everyone after each battle, which took forever with my low MP pool, but was pretty cool tearing through the castle with 7 NPCs.
 

Tabris

Member
I got 1 murder :( and there was nothing I could do about it :(

I was in the arena, challenged the grand champion and he didn't strike at me. He just stood there telling me to kill him. I got no bounty but the dark brotherhood visited me still which I tried to tell to **** off but there was no option for it.

Also I had some questions about taking stuff...

Can you just take stuff from any guild building if you're apart of the guild? I'm always afraid to touch anything as currently I've never been arrested or caught (a couple times I had to sneak into buildings for quests)
 

Jonnyram

Member
Tabris said:
Can you just take stuff from any guild building if you're apart of the guild? I'm always afraid to touch anything as currently I've never been arrested or caught (a couple times I had to sneak into buildings for quests)
Pretty much, but there is still some stuff you shouldn't touch, like if it's locked up, or belongs to your superiors. Basically, if the hand icon is red, it's stealing.
 

Tabris

Member
Jonnyram said:
Pretty much, but there is still some stuff you shouldn't touch, like if it's locked up, or belongs to your superiors. Basically, if the hand icon is red, it's stealing.

Oh, so anything without a red icon is 100% up for grabs? How do you know if it's in a chest where there's no red icon but it's obviousely not yours?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
So. Lit the torch, so to speak. And by torch, I mean
myself, and then the torch. I chose the side of Dementia for both the battle and the torch lighting. Does this have a big impact on anything down the road?

Golden Saints were a bitch, no pun intended, to take down. Got a nice sword out of it, though. Time to go enchant it. :D
Smack Sheagorath once. Save first. It's worth it. :lol

I found a few of the items on the rooftops of Crucible - the potion of feather, the "fight club", and the Ring of Light. I can see some other items and areas but I can't jump high enough yet. Something to come back to! I'm hoping the key to the locked urn sunken in the mire down below is up there.
 

raYne

Member
GhaleonEB said:
So. Lit the torch, so to speak. And by torch, I mean
myself, and then the torch. I chose the side of Dementia for both the battle and the torch lighting. Does this have a big impact on anything down the road?
Nope. The same thing happens with either choice. The main thing I've noticed is that once I became the new Dutchess of Dementia I didn't have the opportunity to become the Duke/Dutchess of Mania. I figured it was like normal Oblivion and nothing would stop me from doing both in one game. I was wrong. :(

Looks like it's the same if you choose the other route as well. Had I known beforehand I would've saved at that fork in the story. Did one to see how it turned out (plus for the achievement) and then reload and do the other.

Smack Sheagorath once. Save first. It's worth it. :lol
****! I knew I forgot to do something! I continued the main SI Questline because I wasn't in the mood to trek it over to the outer towns. Before I know it, the chance was gone.

On the plus side you get a lot of very cool powers/features/items during and upon completion. So I'm enjoying those. Hold!... Release! ftw :lol

I can see some other items and areas but I can't jump high enough yet. Something to come back to! I'm hoping the key to the locked urn sunken in the mire down below is up there.
Yep, it is. The contents are very "eh" though.
 
I finished lighting the torch quest. It was really very rewarding for me as I got loot worth ~12k gold.

I totally forget that Haskil is available for guidance. So I summoned him, and he suggested how to defeat Duke or Duchess. Not the solution, just a hint.

Has anyone done 'Final Resting'? I'm still looking for a way to finish it without punishment.
 

raYne

Member
MirageDwarf said:
Has anyone done 'Final Resting'? I'm still looking for a way to finish it without punishment.
That was the first Quest I did when I got to Crucible.

Just follow him around in the afternoon/evening.
He should go up to the top of the 3(?) flights of stairs leading to the Palace. You should have an opportunity to push him off without any negative circumstances.
That's what I did.
 

BitchTits

Member
raYne said:
That was the first Quest I did when I got to Crucible.

Just follow him around in the afternoon/evening.
He should go up to the top of the 3(?) flights of stairs leading to the Palace. You should have an opportunity to push him off without any negative circumstances.
That's what I did.

The guard's reaction was even funnier than watching the poor guy plunge to his death: "Happens all the time".
:lol
 
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