Depends on your build. Mages, rogues, and archers can fairly easily do without. Warriors generally need it for the power attacks, plus every point increases your carry weight. Also for sprinting.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Special Edition |OT| Winter is Here
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Depends on your build. Mages, rogues, and archers can fairly easily do without. Warriors generally need it for the power attacks, plus every point increases your carry weight. Also for sprinting.
ronaldthump
Member
double fireball seems to take care of most attackers from a distance. if in close quarters send a fire atroache. I'm mostly double casting and sometimes, one hand is flames, other is healing. Works 99% of the time.
Im also playing pure mage: one of the first things I did was make my way to winterholden to get spells.
I put well over 700 hours into Skyrim on 360. I was excited for this remaster, but a part of me felt like I would only play it for 50 or so hours for the nostalgia trip and then move on. But I gotta say, playing it on Xbox One with the new enhancements and 70 something mods on has dramatically altered the experience for the better. The game feels wholly new again. I can easily see myself spending another several hundred hours in this world again.
Right now I'm playing a female Bosmer Hunter type character. I'm going on a tour of the world, moving from city to city, hunting, and clearing a dungeon or two along the way. My only real goal right now is to get enough money to buy property to build a home base on. Mods like Alternate Start, Frostfall, Camping, and Wildcat have completely changed the way I play the game. Surviving the elements, setting up campfires and tents. More dangerous combat. No fast travelling makes the game much, much better. I'm already seeing things I haven't seen before. The little adventures and stories I get myself into are already more interesting than anything I encountered in vanilla Skyrim back in 2011-12. The mods seem to encourage role play much more as well. I never played any of my characters on 360 like I do now. Just having a great time so far.
Right now I'm playing a female Bosmer Hunter type character. I'm going on a tour of the world, moving from city to city, hunting, and clearing a dungeon or two along the way. My only real goal right now is to get enough money to buy property to build a home base on. Mods like Alternate Start, Frostfall, Camping, and Wildcat have completely changed the way I play the game. Surviving the elements, setting up campfires and tents. More dangerous combat. No fast travelling makes the game much, much better. I'm already seeing things I haven't seen before. The little adventures and stories I get myself into are already more interesting than anything I encountered in vanilla Skyrim back in 2011-12. The mods seem to encourage role play much more as well. I never played any of my characters on 360 like I do now. Just having a great time so far.
If you install the right mods then it might as well be en entire new game outside of the main quest.
That's what it feels like. It's still Skyrim at it's core. It's just much better.
Just to be clear, you're saying that Mage Armor perk plus Ironflesh (or greater) works well enough? I was debating Mage Armor perks and instead just building up to double-casting Dragonflesh since it can be overcharged without the Mage Armor perks. That way I can still wear a Dragon Mask since wearing one (as light armor) negates the Mage Armor perks entirely.
Also, I'm level 16 with almost to 300 Magica. Once I get 300, I'll start increasing my Health more.
I've been been using the firebolt/healing combo. It works decently but if a heavy melee guy gets close enough he does a power attack that kills me instantly regardless of if I'm healing. As for Winterhold, I'm going to wait a bit longer before I go there since I know there are leveled quest items that are strongest if you're level 25 or higher.
SuperChoco
Member
Are you using shouts? Unrelenting force is the bread and butter of getting people out of your face. Especially since it doesn't take up a hand.
GravityInsanity
Member
Somebody help. I reached level 40 and can't stop playing. Skyrim has consumed me again.
Humdinger
Member
If you think Bethesda designs or presents their games to be played one way, I don't know what to tell you besides you just aren't tuned in. There are a multitude of ways to approach this game.
Yeah, combat is better in DD. Just about everything else is better in Skryim -- exploration, characters, story, dialog, immersion, landscape, variety, levelling, lore, loot, open world, all the little touches, the amount of content, the sense of discovery, etc.
It's a matter of taste/preference. Skyrim is probably not for you. Sounds to me like you need a game with more of a focus on combat excitement. That's not Skyrim's strong point. It's more about exploration, discovery, leveling a character you like, and creating your own adventure.
There are over 1000 mods on PS4 now, so there's a lot to choose from. I don't know which are the "must have's," but here are the ones I'm using:
- rich merchants (so they aren't always short on cash)
- increased carry weight
- better loot
- faster leveling (not good at the start, because leveling is fast enough already, but once you hit 25 or 30, the leveling pace starts to crawl, so this mod can help keep things rewarding)
- lamp posts
- better signs
- lore-based loading screens
- nicer children (kids can be annoying jerks in Skyrim)
- less aggressive animals (wild animals, especially small ones, should not constantly attack human beings, plus it's annoying)
WonkyPanda
Member
Pro users, this game worth picking up for 25 on BF? I played and beat skyrim on PC years ago (gtx760), but I am curious to try this out on the pro. Seems like the game is still glitchy and may have pro issues, but I wonder how much of that actually hampers the "fun" of it all.
Been playing this and I first bought this on PS4 only to have it returned and get the Xbox One version.
In my opinion PS4 players are missing big time by not having access to mods that use assets from outside the game, since those are the best mods that are really worth installing. And it's not just because of the graphics and ability to have improved character models and animations. They even miss out on ridiculously hilarious stuff like Sofia and a lot of other good mods that rely on other mods with outside the game assets, even quests, magic and locations !! And there's also the fact that the max mod size limit is 800MB, I already have close to 1.5GB worth of mods installed on Xbox One.
I never installed mods on PC simply because it wasn't as easy as it is here, granted there are mods available on PC, but the installation system here is sooooooooo god damn good!
In my opinion PS4 players are missing big time by not having access to mods that use assets from outside the game, since those are the best mods that are really worth installing. And it's not just because of the graphics and ability to have improved character models and animations. They even miss out on ridiculously hilarious stuff like Sofia and a lot of other good mods that rely on other mods with outside the game assets, even quests, magic and locations !! And there's also the fact that the max mod size limit is 800MB, I already have close to 1.5GB worth of mods installed on Xbox One.
I never installed mods on PC simply because it wasn't as easy as it is here, granted there are mods available on PC, but the installation system here is sooooooooo god damn good!
Literally 99% of the mods outside of ENB stuff is just cut and pasting files into the data folder.
It is, which is why it can get a bit out of hand when you want to delete things or disable them. While I do like having a mod manager it can still get out of control ar times because of the manual process of having to add them to mod manager on PC. It's happened a lot with me with Bethesda games in the past. Point being regardless of how easy it is on PC to add mods, it's not even close to how convenient and helpful it is to have an inbuilt mod manager and search within the game itself...which the console versions have...since it just cannot get any simpler than this.
SuperChoco
Member
Use a trainer. IIRC there's one in the khajit caravan that moves around the map and I'm pretty sure there's other ones in the cities.
NegroNinja
Member
Playing on PS4. Is there a way to get money quickly without using mods?
Lionheart1827
Member
Godamnit bethesda!
Keep hitting a crash on PS4 when trying to enter the Alfthand Aminoculary. As soon as it loads, it goes to autosave and it crashes every fucking time.
Keep hitting a crash on PS4 when trying to enter the Alfthand Aminoculary. As soon as it loads, it goes to autosave and it crashes every fucking time.
Try turning off autosave on entering/exiting a room.
Plays great on the pro. 4K looks tight. Haven't noticed any glitches. Framerate has been fine too , people blowing that out of proportion imo.
Camp1nCarl
Member
I bought the original on 360 at launch but didn't really have time to get into it (probably 5 or so hours).
Jumped into the Special Edition on Xbone this weekend and man I've been having a blast. Just playing the vanilla version is really engrossing. Looking forward to trying out mods once I complete the main quest and the add-ons (more like IF I can ever beat them lol).
Jumped into the Special Edition on Xbone this weekend and man I've been having a blast. Just playing the vanilla version is really engrossing. Looking forward to trying out mods once I complete the main quest and the add-ons (more like IF I can ever beat them lol).
Sutton Dagger
Member
????????
The pc version has the same inbuilt mod system. You can even mix and match between them and nexus if you want.
Freeman76
Member
On 1080p its rough on the PRO.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
if you're in PC, go install ordinator and apocalypse, makes playing as mage characters good
with that said, the mage-focused questline of the college is downright dumb especially when compared to Oblivion's mage's guild
then again almost every quest in Oblivion is better than Skyrim
Calling it 1080p on the Pro doesn't make much sense, it's 4K down sampled to 1080p which is the same performance hit as native 4K.
BleedOrange
Banned
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I already own Skyrim. If I purchase all the DLC now will I be upgraded to the Special Edition for free still?
Basically just trying to find the cheapest upgrade path here.
Basically just trying to find the cheapest upgrade path here.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Nope, it was for before they released SE.
Oh PC version of special edition has inbuilt mod? That's good. I recall the original requiring an external mod manager.
Anyhow I couldn't get the PC version for free because I never owned any DLC.
the_batman
Banned
same here. it doesn't help the game runs so smooth and loads way faster compared to the ps3 version i originally played.
Lionheart1827
Member
Thanks I actually ran all the way out of the dungeon and back into skyrim, than ran all the way back in and it worked OK after that. Hopefully it holds together next time I play
ronaldthump
Member
um, I'm somehow a vampire? How do you cure it? Its really quite annoying now to have stamina in the day.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
you probably contracted the disease Sanguinaire Vampiris but didn't realize it
If it's still mild you can cure it with any disease-cure stuff (potions, shrines, a random idiot of Stendarr).
If it has progressed, for cure you go to a random inn (preferably Morthal) and click on rumors until they talk about Falion's expertise in undead. Then you talk to Falion. He will task you to bring a Black Soul Gem with Grand soul in it while meeting up with him at a specific time.
TannerDemoz
Member
Any final say on best armour for a mage build?
I'm thinking of getting rid of my robes and looking at light armour instead once I get my enchanting up. I'm having a lot of fun but the 1 hit KO's are getting really old, especially if I don't have any nearby saves
I'm thinking of getting rid of my robes and looking at light armour instead once I get my enchanting up. I'm having a lot of fun but the 1 hit KO's are getting really old, especially if I don't have any nearby saves
Kaffeemann
Banned
Dual casting alteration spells increases duration, not effectiveness.
Take a look at the graph here:
It shows how armor affects your physical durability when not wearing any armor pieces.
The formula is: Effective HP = (HP*100)/(100-armor*0.12)
Even Ebonyflesh with all ranks of Mage Armor will only increase your physical durability by 56.25%. Other flesh spells are significantly weaker.
Or you can go to the Dawnguard keep; they will happily kill you.
I've got about 20 installed at the moment, the main ones I can remember:
- Less aggressive animals
- Volumetric fog
- Bigger storms
- More natural conversations
- Better combat AI
- Project Hippy (adds more trees to Whiterun etc - looks really good)
- Weightless dragonbones (I always found it a total hassle to have to clear out my inventory to carry bones off)
- Rich merchants (sick of traders running out of coin when I have a ton of stuff to sell)
- Lamposts
- Lore based loading screens
- Better water
- Water drips etc on clothing
- NPCs ragdoll immediately on death
- More blood and gore
- Higher chance of decapitation (dem heads yo)
- More fallen trees
Others I can't recall.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Basically install Ordinator and Apocalypse if you want to enjoy the game as a mage.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Couple of seemingly bugs I've noticed ........
Loading up a game, it tells me things are more powerful than compared to what I have equipped (green + numbers), when they aren't. If I take off and re-equip, then it starts showing the correct stats.
Also, I was playing for about an hour and a half, big long journey across northern Skyrim, in and out of buildings and caves, used the inventory a lot, and noticed it was auto saving every so often. I ended up dying on some pedastsl, I assume because I grabbed a dagger on it. Game reloaded, and I was back to my quick save an hour and a half ago. Checked all save files, not a single one available after that point despite it saying it had been auto saving .......
Anyone else have these ? (PS4 version)
Loading up a game, it tells me things are more powerful than compared to what I have equipped (green + numbers), when they aren't. If I take off and re-equip, then it starts showing the correct stats.
Also, I was playing for about an hour and a half, big long journey across northern Skyrim, in and out of buildings and caves, used the inventory a lot, and noticed it was auto saving every so often. I ended up dying on some pedastsl, I assume because I grabbed a dagger on it. Game reloaded, and I was back to my quick save an hour and a half ago. Checked all save files, not a single one available after that point despite it saying it had been auto saving .......
Anyone else have these ? (PS4 version)
Lionheart1827
Member
MaddenNFL64
Member
So just an update: 1.3 beta just released, with some vague patch notes about general stability, and 144hz monitor support.
Decided to check if Vsync was properly implemented now, just in case, and I can say after a bit of testing (new game on the cart ride to helgen is only time i get a real dip), yes it works now. I got dips into the mid 40's or mid 50's then back to 60. The outrageous drops to 60 to 55 then to 30 the next second are gone.
I can't say for sure of course, since the patch notes don't say anything, but on my end it seems that vsync has triple buffering now.
No more rivatuner + borderless window!
edit: jacked game up to ultra w/ max draw distance just to make sure. Solid 52 fps at the head chopping intro lol! Triple buffering is so nice!
Decided to check if Vsync was properly implemented now, just in case, and I can say after a bit of testing (new game on the cart ride to helgen is only time i get a real dip), yes it works now. I got dips into the mid 40's or mid 50's then back to 60. The outrageous drops to 60 to 55 then to 30 the next second are gone.
I can't say for sure of course, since the patch notes don't say anything, but on my end it seems that vsync has triple buffering now.
No more rivatuner + borderless window!
edit: jacked game up to ultra w/ max draw distance just to make sure. Solid 52 fps at the head chopping intro lol! Triple buffering is so nice!
nowheretorun
Member
Yup. Given up on it and just bought it for £40 digital. Not happy at all and hoping it gets fixed ffs...
ronaldthump
Member
I'll probably just install some mods, fuck the trophies. The base game is a bit shit. I mean, to remaster it, they could at least fix the merchants having enough money but nooooo. After I posted, I followed some dog into a dungeon to talk to some god and fought some creatures in a dungeon and I was like "this dungeon feels like the 10 dungeons before it"
was talking to my flatmate last night and I just said "I dont think I like this very much, its really not fun".
mods it is.
was talking to my flatmate last night and I just said "I dont think I like this very much, its really not fun".
mods it is.
Moses Donut
Member
So by "144hz monitor support" what they mean is they capped the game to 60fps. The iVSyncPresentInterval ini setting longer unlocks the framerate (for me anyway). I realize the physics is tied to the framerate but I was having no issues with it capped at 96 and with gsync I was enjoying a silky smooth experience. Now it is judder city
Big Green Anus
Member
I beat Skyrim for the first time last week and other than the crashes, I was such a fun experience. skyrim with no mods is noticeably inferior to The Witcher 3 and Fallout New Vegas. However, with PS4 limited mods, it was surprisingly more comparable to Witcher 3 in terms of overall fun factor.
I might buy this again on Switch if that has mod support.
I might buy this again on Switch if that has mod support.
I've put so many hours into this already and it's a pretty good game so far but unfortunately I've hit a bug that has pretty much ruined my build and there is no way to fix it.
I've hit the bug in the quest
where I can't
and apparently the only fix is to load an earlier save but the problem is after I killed him I went off to do something else and spent many hours and have leveled a ton since then so now i can no longer obtain master level spells
I've hit the bug in the quest
Conjuration Ritual Spell
summon the Dremora after killing him once
wesleyshark
Banned
The grind from 60 to 70 is so real lol. Currently at 67. Pickpocket is on Legendary 2, Smithing, Enchanting, Lockpicking and Archery on Legendary 1. Almost there...
Humdinger
Member
67? Damn. I just cracked 50, and things are really slowing down, even with the fast leveling mod. In my original game 5 years ago, I think I topped out somewhere in the upper 30's, iirc. And that was after exhausting just about everything the game had to offer.
I'm not going to play so exhaustively this time, though. I'm just doing the quests that interest me and leaving the rest alone. I'll probably end up with a level somewhere in the mid-50's.
I'm pretty overpowered for most encounters, but that makes them fun. I haven't even started into enchantments yet.
I'm not going to play so exhaustively this time, though. I'm just doing the quests that interest me and leaving the rest alone. I'll probably end up with a level somewhere in the mid-50's.
I'm pretty overpowered for most encounters, but that makes them fun. I haven't even started into enchantments yet.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I managed to get up to 80. Leveling up alchemy really helped me.
It really is the easiest way to shoot up given you can make stuff with high end ingredients immediately. Been holding off on going legendary with Smithing until I max out enchanting and can make some crazy buffed stuff, then I'll go on that treadmill again.