To be fair, the car and the drivers aren't really Red Bull's problem right now. Not even remotely.
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To be fair, the car and the drivers aren't really Red Bull's problem right now. Not even remotely.
The car has to be a big factor - otherwise its hard to explain how hard they have to fight against STR.
New blood and a fresh look always makes things better. Just look at Honda with McLaren.
Psychotext
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Ouch. Would Audi only join as an engine manufacturer? Even all the other engines should be pretty close before Audi could deliver.
I already said whats the status there. Don´t get caught in Dr Markos delusions.
frontieruk
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Lets imagine the following thing... (quote)
Lets imagine someone puts a small bladderlike device after the fuel flow sensor. One that fills with fuel when the car brakes, when the fuel flow is low and this bit more isn´t noticeable. Now imagine you could use this small reservoir like a turbo boost, especially in fast turns, like f.i. sector 3 in Barcelona. Now imagine you couldn´t use that anymore, ´cause the stewards know what to look for. It´s not out of imagination, you´d suddenly lose .5sec in said sector.
But that would hint at it being a driver controlled device right? as the cars were already in Parc fermé conditions when the suspicions were raised.
The initial suspicions were raised during winter testing. I'm pretty confident no one broke the rules this weekend.
massivekettle
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/may/11/lewis-hamilton-mercedes-three-year-contract-f1-130m
£130m / 3 years - if true, wow. That's a lot.
A bit disappointed Lewis won't leave Mercedes. Would have loved him at Ferrari. Don't get the sense that Toto likes Lewis at all.
£130m / 3 years - if true, wow. That's a lot.
A bit disappointed Lewis won't leave Mercedes. Would have loved him at Ferrari. Don't get the sense that Toto likes Lewis at all.
That would put him on more that what Vettel is believed to be on at Ferrari at £33m this year and about £20m for season 2 and 3, with potential bonuses of £15m.
Somehow I can't see that being the case.
I do wonder where paper pull this stuff from though. Hamilton is negotiating himself and I doubt the entire team knows what the deal is.
Rosberg is believed to be on £43m over three years.
Somehow I can't see that being the case.
I do wonder where paper pull this stuff from though. Hamilton is negotiating himself and I doubt the entire team knows what the deal is.
Rosberg is believed to be on £43m over three years.
Well, he will be able to buy a bigger private jet for his travels #jetset #swag #yolo #whereisroscoe # $ingle4lif€
Psychotext
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Fox Mulder
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It would suck since there doesn't seem to be a long list of companies willing or eager to jump in and spend what redbull does really.
Recalibrate your antennas! ;-)
I didn't realise Porsche and Audi were owned by the same companies. How does that work when they're competing against each other in WEC?
I'd love to see Porsche back in it, too.
Edit: Holy shit, each of the Mercs have only used one? Christ, that's depressing.
JadedWriter
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Sounds like Toto is a bigger cheerleader for Hamilton than people think he is. Didn't they horse around during a press conference while Toto was hungover from partying post Russia GP?
Fox Mulder
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VW is cool with it as Porsche and Audi are going about WEC LMP cars a bit differently.
Better yet, in commentary they were suggesting that Merc were going to use the first engine for Monaco too!
That would mean when they bring engine upgrades they can apply them to all remaining engines.
frontieruk
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I was going to say it wasn't the impression I got from his interviews, though he died seen a bit more evenhanded with the drivers than Lauda.
I don't know what's most frightening, that they still have that big a lead with what was essentially last years engine, how reliable they are or the fact they probably aren't really running it near it maximum, all 3 depress me for the sport though.
Will be interesting to see if the engine upgrades allow them to pull away or if they just keep doing what they are doing until signs of others catching when they'll turn up the wick again.
Their original plan was 2nd engine at Barcelona. But they decided that they will switch it in Canada, so they will be able to incorporate some token based upgrades into 2nd engine.
Ferrari is already using 2nd engine, so if they want new stuff in it they will have to use 3rd.
No wonder they made insane amount of kilometers during winter with single engine.
massivekettle
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My view is solely based on his demeanor on TV and in press quotes where he mostly focuses on how awesome Rosberg's 2nd or 3rd was whilst very little said about Lewis' 1st (especially to British TV/media). I reckon he's got to try to prop up his other driver when down but sometimes last year, and even this year, it was getting ridiculous.
That comes with the job description.
That´s exactly it. He did just the same with HAM this Sunday.
Look, his job is not to be a cheerleader. He needs to make sure both perform to the top of their level. When one does, he´ll commend him for it. But its more important to help the other one get back to that too.
JadedWriter
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I'd like to think being Hamilton's cheerleader is Lauda's job, Toto does seem like the more impartial middleman.
nature boy
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Gotta love how much Red Bull is whoring themselves to Audi.
Well they have no future in the sport otherwise. I don't see Renault improving.
Brundle posted his wishlist for 2017
All sensible changes.
100% agreed on all of those, Brundle knows his shit.
We need him in a position of power in the FIA... great talent in the commentary box, but the sport would really benefit with his line of thinking influencing regulations.
Mastah
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I like both Brundle and Coulthard.
They could both bring something to the table in the FIA.
To add to their wish list, the teams should be given less power. and money should be spread in an equal manner in relation to constructors finishing position, regardless of how long you've been involved in the sport.
Doing so may tempt other manufacturers to enter the fray.
They could both bring something to the table in the FIA.
To add to their wish list, the teams should be given less power. and money should be spread in an equal manner in relation to constructors finishing position, regardless of how long you've been involved in the sport.
Doing so may tempt other manufacturers to enter the fray.
I never posted after the race. I watched it live, but passed out right after. I should've watched it on delay.
Good win for Nico. Lewis stood no chance Sunday. Good drive by Lewis to overcome that terrible start. Good showing by Vettel as well.
It wasn't the worst Spanish GP I've seen. Roll on next race. PEACE.
Good win for Nico. Lewis stood no chance Sunday. Good drive by Lewis to overcome that terrible start. Good showing by Vettel as well.
It wasn't the worst Spanish GP I've seen. Roll on next race. PEACE.
Problem is these changes make too much sense for modern F1. Their solutions nowaydays are more like:
"Drivers are not pushing enough to conserve their tires."
"We will introduce a sensor that indicates whether a driver is holding back on prupose"
Well earned, if true. He pulled the Joe Flacco power move. Instead of taking the easy extension in your contact year, let it expire and win the championship that year. Your gonna park a bank truck in the off-season. Looks like what Lewis did. PEACE.
Yeah, I want to see drivers push again, but there needs to some element of strategy to F1 IMO. Refuelling is never coming back, so I don't know what they could do...
Meaningless changes if brake technology isn't changed. Carbon brakes bite too damn hard, have zero crossover with consumer cars, and have shrunk braking zones. Lightening the cars and improving grip would only stand to exacerbate the problem IMO.
Then again, I've been banging this drum for over a decade, and nothing has been done in that regard. I believe that empirically, braking is where F1 cars gain their biggest advantage over other vehicles, and that is also the primary vehicle for overtaking. So clearly something has to give IMO. PEACE.
Hamilton doesn't seem to have the hots for Ferrari like so many other F1 drivers.
They never had Senna.
gutterboy44
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I have to imagine drivers like Hamilton who are in top form of their career feel like the current regulations have cheapened the victory/thrill a bit. Especially seeing how he idolizes Senna who would have probably left the sport if he was constantly told to manage tires, reduce pace, and avoid challenges for the win.
It sucks as a spectator, so I don't see how the drivers would be immune to it. What initially felt like a positive by shaking up races with different tire strategies has devolved into a massive blight on F1 races. I really want tire competition back and no artificial durability limits. Everything they have introduced into F1 to make it "more exiting" has now tapered off into fake "thrills" of DRS passes and horseshit tire strategies. All of this on top of slower moving and fuck awful sounding cars. I am really trying to stay interested in F1, but this season is becoming a real test, even with the possibility of some battles upfront. Sure it might end up close on points again, but this does not feel like the sport I fell in love with as a kid. The sport I get goosebumps when enthusiastically telling people unfamiliar with F1, just how mind-boggling insane these cars and drivers are.
It sucks as a spectator, so I don't see how the drivers would be immune to it. What initially felt like a positive by shaking up races with different tire strategies has devolved into a massive blight on F1 races. I really want tire competition back and no artificial durability limits. Everything they have introduced into F1 to make it "more exiting" has now tapered off into fake "thrills" of DRS passes and horseshit tire strategies. All of this on top of slower moving and fuck awful sounding cars. I am really trying to stay interested in F1, but this season is becoming a real test, even with the possibility of some battles upfront. Sure it might end up close on points again, but this does not feel like the sport I fell in love with as a kid. The sport I get goosebumps when enthusiastically telling people unfamiliar with F1, just how mind-boggling insane these cars and drivers are.
Mastah
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Step into good direction would be ability to choose and use tyres freely. Let's say Pirelli announces the softest tyre available for particular weekend (for Monaco that would be supersofts, so all 4 would be possible to pick) and teams can choose two compounds they prefer. Then they can use them however they want, no more bullshit of "if in Top10 start on tyres you achieved best lap in Q2" (btw. how is that offering more variable strategy, if since 2014 in 100% cases it was always softer tyre for 10 quickest drivers?) or "use both compounds". Mix and match, soft fronts, hard rears or the opposite, maybe only 1 tyre of another compound, just some variety, not regulated to death crap we have today. At worst it would be the same as now, but in the best case we would get something different and more exciting. All within current regulations and safety features (camber, pressures and so on).
Or bring back racing tyres, not entertainment gimmicks.