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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel |OT| Class Warfare
- Thread starter Dandy Crocodile
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FallenGrace
Member
That happened to me twice with different people at different points playing Blade. I avoided it after that.
Dragon1893
Member
Finished chapter 1 yesterday. The game is growing on me with every minute I play it, I just wish I had more time.
Se7enSword
Banned
CSII will have more of it with better mechanics for it too!
Glad you finally started up on it! I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
CSII will have more of it with better mechanics for it too!
Sweet! Really looking forward to CSII now.
Now to leave my Vita on for 20 hours and I'll have the platinum.
clay_ghost
Member
That battle system strangely feels similar to the last ranker for me. Or I may have forgotten how the last ranker played like.
Translation and editing of Cold Steel II is finished, so that means they'll be moving on to QA now.
https://www.facebook.com/XSEEDTrail...24988.58487.125439827481439/1404941902864552/
https://www.facebook.com/XSEEDTrail...24988.58487.125439827481439/1404941902864552/
Nice.
DrROBschiz
Member
Aww snap
now Im torn
do I play it when it hits or wait for 3rd? Life is full of tough choices
now Im torn
do I play it when it hits or wait for 3rd? Life is full of tough choices
Depends on what news we get for 3rd before CSII releases. After completing the first game I was eagerly anticipating CSII and kept thinking about it for ages. It's been a while now and while I obviously still want to play the game, I'm no longer frothing at the mouth so to speak.
I'd be perfectly okay waiting 6 months after the release of CSII to play 3rd first.
I'd be perfectly okay waiting 6 months after the release of CSII to play 3rd first.
Just play it straight away. I don't think it really matters which one you play before the other. Seeing all the connections between all these games will be cool no matter what order you play them. Like take the story about (certain TitS FC + SC character spoiler in relation to 3rd)
Caius
all the trouble Bracers have had in Erebonia in the recent past
Yes.
He revealed himself as the prince of Erebonia at some point SC.
No, I don't remember it does.
Nightengale
Member
Spoiler for Cold Steel 2 :
It
impacts one flashback scene
showing the person who the ending was done with
But that is
literally all there is to it.
Ultimadrago
Member
Finally started this today and I have to know does this
last for long?
Please tell me it doesn't. After coming from Trails FC/SC, it's killing me silently already.
Alisa having tensions with Rean because of the worst out-of-the-anime-book accidental boob fall joke
Please tell me it doesn't. After coming from Trails FC/SC, it's killing me silently already.
Matt Attack
Member
It will probably last a little longer than you'd like it to, but it's not an issue for most of the game.
Don't worry. She'll be dere for Rean in no time.
Ultimadrago
Member
skLaFarebear
Member
Yes!
I hated that as much as you and the next person did, but I ended up genuinely liking Alisa. So there's that.
Like a lot of things in this game, it takes its time. The game's structure, especially early on, makes a few story/character beats last way too long. Don't worry, it's dropped before the pervy grandpa gets introduced!
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Jusis falls out of plot relevance earlier than I'd like, but he stays extremely useful battle-wise all the way up until the endgame.
skLaFarebear
Member
Most characters in Class Seven only get about a chapter of significant plot relevance. I'm hoping the sequel builds on this, though I'm still expecting certain characters are gonna get much more development than others by the end.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I already expect Rean, Crow, Fie, Emma, and Alisa to overshadow everyone else. I'll honestly be (pleasantly) surprised if Jusis, Gaius, Laura or... anyone else, really, gets significant plot development or screen time dedicated to them.
While I didn't particularly care to have Millium in my active party, I did take her with me often in CS2 to enjoy the te Jusis-versus-Millium running gag. There are a couple of collisions between those two that made me roar with laughter.
Jusis gets his fair share of development in CS2 and, as I mentioned before, for reasons redacted I expect Gaius and Laura to get prominent roles in CS3.
Jusis gets his fair share of development in CS2 and, as I mentioned before, for reasons redacted I expect Gaius and Laura to get prominent roles in CS3.
It's reconciled by the end of the first chapter
SatelliteOfLove
Member
She, like everyone else new to you not named Sara starts behaving like realistic awesome Falcom Characters very shortly, with only a couple crappy characters later.
Just consider them otaku bait and reinforce that its not needed for sales stability despite their fears that it is.
Just consider them otaku bait and reinforce that its not needed for sales stability despite their fears that it is.
Ultimadrago
Member
Best Hub Fast Travel System ever.
Can go everywhere in a blink.
Can go everywhere in a blink.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Soo... that September release date feels plausible, then?
God, between that and Persona 5, SMT4: Apocalypse, and Dragon Quest VII 3DS, the last few months of the year are going to be some of the best ever for JRPGs.
Ok so I was hyped for FC and SC for so long and when I finally finished them I felt highly underwhelmed. I just got Cold Steel because I haven't played a video game in awhile and holy shit y'all... this game is so good wtf I was not expecting this. I can't pinpoint what it is that makes it so much more enjoyable but I'm absolutely loving it.
Ultimadrago
Member
Not gonna lie, Elliot is pretty adorable!
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Seriously the cutest.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
He's definately a great bro in the "not going to be beside you in the drunk tank going 'That was fuckin awesome duuuuuuuuude!'" way.
AmuroChan
Member
That seemed adequate to me. There are only 6 chapters. Dedicating an entire chapter to someone like Gaius or Laura seem more than what most side characters get in other JRPGs.
I think Jusis will have significance in the sequel because of his father's involvement in the conflict. They also set up Rufus to be a pretty important NPC in the first game. So I don't think Jusis will just disappear from the plot.
Character dead weight is a severe problem, and unfortunately not really handled or fixed in the sequel in terms of plot.
You can still have fun with dialogue though. Not like that goes away. I encourage liberal use of the screenshot function.
It just made me feel a little bad for a few of the characters because they feel so nonexistent a lot of the time.
You can still have fun with dialogue though. Not like that goes away. I encourage liberal use of the screenshot function.
It just made me feel a little bad for a few of the characters because they feel so nonexistent a lot of the time.
After a totally planned 4-month break from the game, I'm back to playing it! Looks like I stopped around chapter 4's second half and after playing for an hour, I'm surprised how well I remember everything that's happened so far etc. Gonna try and play at least an hour every day I'm actually home and have the time so maybe I'll actually finish the game before CS2 comes out lol.
Guys, I need honest opinions on my case.
I bought this game because of the good word of mouth from Trails in the Sky (which I have yet to play). I finally started playing it today and...it did not leave a good first impression on me at all.
I do not want to be quick to dismiss it, but I also value my time, specially due to my current lifestyle.
I have only clocked ~60mins, and this is why I do not like it so far:
-Really bland dungeon, town, and enemy designs.
-Game is too tropey (characters are too archetypical, many scenes and behaviors are very predictable or cliche. For example, not even an hour has elapsed and we get a scene where female character lands on MC -> awkardness -> girl calls out MC and slaps him)
-Battles feel slow and do not require a lot of strategy (to be fair, this is probably because the game is starting, but it should not necesarilly be this way...see SMT series for example)
-This is not a dealbreaker, but there seem to be frequent FPS dips on Vita
Do any of those things get better? (specially 1 & 2)
And if they actually don't, why would you still recommend it?
I bought this game because of the good word of mouth from Trails in the Sky (which I have yet to play). I finally started playing it today and...it did not leave a good first impression on me at all.
I do not want to be quick to dismiss it, but I also value my time, specially due to my current lifestyle.
I have only clocked ~60mins, and this is why I do not like it so far:
-Really bland dungeon, town, and enemy designs.
-Game is too tropey (characters are too archetypical, many scenes and behaviors are very predictable or cliche. For example, not even an hour has elapsed and we get a scene where female character lands on MC -> awkardness -> girl calls out MC and slaps him)
-Battles feel slow and do not require a lot of strategy (to be fair, this is probably because the game is starting, but it should not necesarilly be this way...see SMT series for example)
-This is not a dealbreaker, but there seem to be frequent FPS dips on Vita
Do any of those things get better? (specially 1 & 2)
And if they actually don't, why would you still recommend it?
YianGaruga
Banned
- Dungeons slowly ramp up in complexity, but they stay relatively simple and short-ish until the very end. Towns are varied from huge capitals with multiple zones to small farming villages with only 2-3 houses. Not sure what's bland about the enemy design. It would help if you say what you find bland about the town and enemies, because I think the starting town is a pretty decent place for example.
- Tropes are there so you can easily get a feel for the huge cast at the beginning. They are present througout the game to some degree, but most characters have a decent amount of development and don't completely rely on them. Except for Gaius who simply has no character.
- Battles become better. They shouldn't be slow though. Don't be afraid to spam your crafts, especially with Rean.
- Performance on Vita doesn't improve so you have to get used to it.
I don't think the game has a very strong start but try to continue at least for a few hours. You really haven't seen what this game is about yet. You have to give it time to introduce you to its world and mysteries, but once it does.. so good.
Yeah this is true. Getting invested into the world definitely pays off.
Also, try to get used to the slower pace and start talking with people. NPCs have something new to say after pretty much every single story event, and I feel like that's the aspect that makes these games special. The world feels like a real place with real people just living their lives.
I can easily say the game would have been a much worse experience if I never took the time to talk to people, getting to know them, reading the news magazines, just generally getting immersed in the world.
There's also a general Kiseki thread ( http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763697 ) that seems to be much more active, if you've got more questions
I can easily say the game would have been a much worse experience if I never took the time to talk to people, getting to know them, reading the news magazines, just generally getting immersed in the world.
There's also a general Kiseki thread ( http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763697 ) that seems to be much more active, if you've got more questions
I can't picture the enemies I have fought so far in my mind. I find them forgettable. Dungeons do not do a great job with ambiance: Textures and layout are very simple. Look repetitive.
Maybe a good counter-example could be Digimon Cyber Sleuth. Dungeons are usually very simple as well, but they look pretty. Another vita example could be FFX HD, game is an eye candy.
Even P4 that is a dungeon crawler...dungeons have more 'personality'.
I've only seen two dungeons so far, but the problem is they are very samey. My concern is that this stays true throughout the game.
Thanks for the other info, I'll keep at it a few more hours.
YianGaruga
Banned
I get what you mean, but I'm not sure it improves much in that respect. The visual (and audio) design of the final dungeon blew me away, for what it's worth.
All I can say is, try not to get lost in those details and see the game as a whole. It's really very good.