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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Well I didn't expect that....
Unless they did have butter chicken.
Unless they did have butter chicken.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
All done. GG.
chicko1983
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All over, trophy is ours!
reptilescorpio
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Well what did Australia have for lunch then?
Also smh at the Butter Chicken remark.
2 matches in a row that India have lost by more than an innings, when was the last time that happened?
Also smh at the Butter Chicken remark.
2 matches in a row that India have lost by more than an innings, when was the last time that happened?
pieatorium
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I wonder what the pitch will be like in Adelaide? dead or flat?
crazy monkey
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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
India don't even bother coming out onto the field.
Despite being worried before the series begun, who could expect India playing so poorly across the board?
I enjoyed watching the Indians get thrashed.
I enjoyed watching the Indians get thrashed.
Yeah, I posted that he should be sacked as a test captain, even dropped from tests after he admitted to quitting tests in a few years. Why wait till then? Get in Dinesh Karthik or any other genuine batsman wicket-keeper.
Dhoni's lack of hunger reminds me of Jadeja's captaincy - "and no shit was given" attitude needs to go after every loss. Kumble was a 10x better captain and Ganguly was probably the best.
Dhoni's lack of hunger reminds me of Jadeja's captaincy - "and no shit was given" attitude needs to go after every loss. Kumble was a 10x better captain and Ganguly was probably the best.
Pleasing isn't it! Genuine load sharing.
It was no cakewalk for India. You're up against it trying to devalue 329*.
crazy monkey
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ganguly was fighter. he would eat the team alive lol. Result probably would be same though.
India threw away the golden opportunity there, apart from the majority of first session, the pitch was flat. The three Australian wickets that fell on the first day were all poor shots rather than some unplayable deliveries from Zaheer.
Scoring a 329* or even a 400* like Lara on a dead pitch isnt extra-ordinary. Which is probably why Lara values his other fighting knocks on bouncy pitches more. What Warner did in the first innings, he literally won the match for Australia.
Disagree, dont think the 2003 team was that much better than this one yet they managed to ruin Steve Waugh's farewell.
I dare say some extremely disciplined bowling by Australia enabled Warner to bat with minimal pressure. Team game and all.
Not sure what the half-logic is there .. Warner still had to get runs. His spot is as much uncertain as Marsh's.
edit: By the same logic, Warner laid a pretty fucking good foundation for the Australian middle order and yet their squandered. So yeah, I would even credit Warner for part of Cowan's 70 odd. He attacked the Indian pacers so much that they started spraying all over.
chicko1983
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That's why I think most sub-continent players are over rated. Every second pitch they play on is dead.
If its not pacy, it must be dead. <facepalm>
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Be good to see how India would go in NZ with their current line up.
chicko1983
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Who said that?
Edit: I'd really be keen to hear your definition of "dead pitch" as well.
AdventureRacing
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Lol so even when i showed you this is bullshit you still go on with it. It isn't true with Tendulkar and with Dravid his average is lower in India than his career average. The only player this really applies to is Dhoni (maybe you could include Sehwag but he goes ok overseas). When this is actually true everyone acknowledges it just like they do with Dhoni. The top Indian batsmen aren't overated at all.
I don't know how he is keeping his spot. Maybe they need to stand him down from tests and just leave him in one dayers for a while.
chicko1983
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So it's also bullshit they haven't played on a lot more dead pitches than someone from outside of India?
If irfan is discounting clarkies triple century, there are a lot of Centuries of the Indians to be discounted. More than half of SRT's centuries were in the sub-continent...
Sub-continent pitches turn. A dead pitch is one which offers no assistance to the bowlers and is a one-sided contest.
I'm saying Warner's 180 is more valuable in the context of the game.
You really are a bonehead, done with you on this topic.
chicko1983
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The first part of your definition is correct, the second part is completely incorrect. Dead pitches are typically draws and bore fests which both teams can find run scoring easy.
You don't get a lot of draws in Australia, sth Africa or England (unless they are rain affected).
You get a disproportionately large number of draws in the sub continents, due to the larger number of dead pitches played on.
Heres an article from an Indian who writes on cric info:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/436009.htmlcricinfo said:
irfan said:
Clarke's knock was as match winning as Warner's, but Warner's was far more entertaining in my opinion. You can't differentiate centuries where the batsmen scored more than the opposition did in a whole innings of the same match.
You were were trying to devalue clarkies innings. The fact was, the wicket was far from dead.
Back to the name calling for you.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Turn doesn't necessarily make for a good bowling pitch, not even for spinners. Bounce is the attribute practically every bowler desires. That is the problem that some sub-continental pitches have. Sri Lankan pitches always seem to be the worst, though that could be selective memory.
chicko1983
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AdventureRacing
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If they average as high or higher outside of India than it is simply irrelevant. The top Indian batsmen perform well overseas which makes this point mean very little.
I'm not going to defend Irfan it's pretty obvious what his agenda is. Coming up with bias of your own isn't the way to correct him though.
chicko1983
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I agree with the bounce point.
Dead pitches are typically low bouncing, which seem like they turn less as they are not travelling as far as a comparably pitched ball on a bouncy deck.
So why don't touring spinners prosper more in Australia? My thoughts are they pitch the ball too short giving too much room to the batsmen as it bounces higher. Also, the quicks take more wickets with the new ball, hence less chances for spinners to get wickets as they are bowled less.
AdventureRacing
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I think the problem is a lot of the best foreign spinners are from the sub continent and just don't know how to take advantage of the bounce. Although even someone like Kumble who used bounce much more effectively than most spinners did great in India and terrible in Australia so i'm not really sure of the reason.
chicko1983
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No, I am not saying it is simply irrelevant.
chicko1983
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Yeah I think their problem is that they use their sub continent length, as they pitch it shorter in the sub continent to give it more time to move laterally.
It sits up like a long hop and Aussies can deal with it easier.
Hence why i think they need to pitch it up more.
