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The Official Formula 1 2010/2011 Off-Season Thread

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Goldrusher

Goldrusher

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http://twitter.com/alex_wurz
http://twitter.com/PedrodelaRosa1
http://twitter.com/AussieGrit (Webber)


Alex Wurz
since @antdavidson made me twitter up, i push now pedro de la rosa. !!! Not sure if he will twitter much, but i try to convince him!

Pedro de la Rosa
Hey Wurzy, I can only think about understeer or oversteer. Twitter is not for me... You have all the ingredients to be a twitter maniac!

Pedro de la Rosa
Of course Alex is not replying. He normally wakes up at 12 pm. We still have 30 mins for his answer then..

Alex Wurz
Hurray we all can follow pedro the king of spain on @pedrodelarosa1. Mega! Love it, next one will b Marc! Cool pedro welcome to twitter

Alex Wurz
pedro, i was up at 7 for a 30min run, after help to prepare sponsor event, now having fun with a goup of 18 at brandlhof.com

Pedro de la Rosa
Just bought a radio control plane and will fly it (and destroy it) tomorrow morning. Same as Wurz did with the MP4-18 at Jerez....

Alex Wurz
@PedrodelaRosa1 man, change your pic, now u look like a egg! yes i did a proper job with mp4-18 in jerz ! Expansive damage it was, and fire!

Mark Webber
Any news on the plane king of Spain?surely you couldn't bin it as well as alex binned adrain's gem?

Pedro de la Rosa
Crashed the radio control plane in wurzy style, nothing left... Now in Monza doing some filming with Pirelli. Will update the egg shortly...

Mark Webber
You filming- o yes you love seeing ya self on the box,even with all those grey hairs!!

Pedro de la Rosa
I guess you also love seeing yourself on your box having a front wing change...

Mark Webber
still crying at you trying to fly that plane buddy,you coming to barcalona test?I'm driving days 3/4 great to catch up mate
 
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brotkasten

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Goldrusher said:
http://twitter.com/alex_wurz
http://twitter.com/PedrodelaRosa1
http://twitter.com/AussieGrit (Webber)
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It's so weird to see them having a conversation on Twitter and being buddies and all that. They're supposed to hate and fight each other and everything!

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a176

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mclaren777 said:
Mclaren is cooking up some crazy and the exhausts have gone missing again.

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f1 technical team says they will probably use forward exhausts to gain extra downforce through those sidepods
 
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Leunam

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So yeah, Ecclestone has expressed concerns regarding the Bahrain GP, especially now that it's been specifically targeted for protests by Bahrain Center for Human Rights.
 
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Deadman

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Leunam said:
So yeah, Ecclestone has expressed concerns regarding the Bahrain GP, especially now that it's been specifically targeted for protests by Bahrain Center for Human Rights.
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Human rights have no place in f1.
 
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navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
If Bahrain goes ahead, which it might not from the rumours from Ecclestone

Formula 1's tyre supplier Pirelli has announced the compounds that it will take to the first four races of the 2011 season.

The Italian manufacturer said the hard tyre will be the Prime tyre, while the soft will be the Option in Bahrain, Australia, Malaysia and China.

"This decision has been made in accordance with the track characteristics in the Middle and Far East, which offer high grip and a wide variety of speeds and corners, as well as ambient and track temperatures that are likely to be high," said the company in a statement.

Pirelli said its decision is aimed at having two pitstops at every race.

"The valuable data that we've collected from both official and private testing has shown us that our nomination of hard and soft tyres is the best way forward for both the drivers and the spectators, so we look forward now to a successful Grand Prix debut and a great show in the Middle and Far East over the next four races," said Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery.

"We've enjoyed great collaboration with the teams so far, and with the nominated compounds for the next four races now known, I am sure that this will help to focus their development for the start of the season."
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2 pit stops. I wanted 3 per race for the fun!
 
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Salacious Crumb

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Wax Free Vanilla said:
i can't see it myself - a £20m simulator based around rfactor :lol


probably a joint effort with bae systems
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“Crucially, rFactor Pro allows us to run our own vehicle model, into which we have invested many man years, while providing a completely immersive experience, interfacing to our chassis code, motion hardware and track-side systems.”
-Adrian Newey
 
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navanman

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Heidfeld officially confirmed as replacement driver for Kubica today by Lotus.
The Renault team has confirmed that Nick Heidfeld will be Robert Kubica's replacement this season, starting from this week's test at Barcelona.

Heidfeld was expected to land the drive after impressing the outfit during his test at the Jerez circuit last week.

The 33-year-old will be working as an official Renault driver starting at this week's test at Barcelona, the German driving on Saturday and Monday.

"I would have liked to come back to Formula 1 in different circumstances, but I'm proud to have been given this chance," said Heidfeld. "Everything has happened so quickly, but I've been very impressed by what I have seen so far in terms of the facilities and the dedication of the people at Enstone.

"I really enjoyed the test last week in Jerez and I've already settled in well with the guys at the track. I have a good feeling for the car, which is quite innovative. I'm extremely motivated and can't wait for the season to begin."

Heidfeld will race alongside Russian Vitaly Petrov while Kubica recovers from his injuries following his accident during a rally.

"The team has been through a very difficult couple of weeks and we had to react quickly," said team boss Eric Boullier. "We gave Nick a chance in Jerez last week and he really impressed us. He's quick, experienced and is very strong technically with his feedback and understanding of the car.

"We always said the priority was to have an experienced driver in the car and we feel he is the ideal man for the job. We are pleased to welcome Nick to the team and look forward to a strong start to the season with him and Vitaly in Bahrain."
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moojito

moojito

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Good to see Nick with a drive, then! It continues to suck that decent drivers like Heidfeld and Hulkenberg get left out in place of lesser drivers with fat sacks of cash.
 
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Dead Man

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moojito said:
Good to see Nick with a drive, then! It continues to suck that decent drivers like Heidfeld and Hulkenberg get left out in place of lesser drivers with fat sacks of cash.
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Yep, and yep.
 
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navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Looks like the final winter test and race in Bahrain are in serious doubt today.

The GP2 Asia race was cancelled today when the track medical staff had to leave to attend to the dead and wounded in the overnight massacre by security forces.
 
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Dead Man

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navanman said:
Looks like the final winter test and race in Bahrain are in serious doubt today.

The GP2 Asia race was cancelled today when the track medical staff had to leave to attend to the dead and wounded in the overnight massacre by security forces.
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Bernie might start to learn a lesson about where he stages races, but he'll probably be contracted for a big payday even if the race doesn't go ahead, so maybe not.
 
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Adam Scott Aukerman

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navanman said:
Looks like the final winter test and race in Bahrain are in serious doubt today.

The GP2 Asia race was cancelled today when the track medical staff had to leave to attend to the dead and wounded in the overnight massacre by security forces.
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The whole GP2 event has been cancelled now, but I imagine the FIA will still wait until Monday to make a decision - although the chances of it going ahead appear to be almost nil.

P.S. I don't really think 'massacre' is in any way an appropriate description of this morning's events.
 
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Dead Man

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rogue_pigeon said:
The whole GP2 event has been cancelled now, but I imagine the FIA will still wait until Monday to make a decision - although the chances of it going ahead appear to be almost nil.

P.S. I don't really think 'massacre' is in any way an appropriate description of this morning's events.
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I wasn't there obviously, but this image makes me think massacre may not be too far off

***NSFW DISTURBING IMAGE***
image removed to avoid hand wringing

***I told you it was disturbing.***
 
mclaren777

mclaren777

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myurr said:
I've aligned all the cars, resized based on front wheel size, aligned the front wheels and rotated so that the cars are roughly level (i.e. no rake). I've then marked the nose, tail, and centre lines of the wheels on the McLaren so that you can compare the sizes across all the cars.
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Articate

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Hmm. I suppose it depends on where the center of gravity is, but I suppose they're more or less so close on all cars that you can say something about the characteristics of the car? A shorter wheel-base.. Man, these things are complicated. Ok, let's assume ride-height and cg is 'equal enough' on the cars to be able to discuss how the wheelbase affects the feel of the car. In that case a shorter wheelbase will create a better transfer load. With two equal cars, this would create a more 'agile' car, accelerating a decelerating better, and maybe handle medium and high-speed S-combination corners better. The car will reach its steady-state load in a corner sooner, and can be thrown harder into corners.

It'll be more oversteered into a corner and more understeered out of a corner, due to weight transfer being more efficient. At the same time you'll have better acceleration since there'll be more weight on the rear wheels. The problem is that it'll be a bit ungovernable. It won't take bumps that well. You'll get a less forgiving car. You'll probably want your suspension to build up around this, in the form of harder dampeners, lest you'll use up all the travel of the suspension too fast, which'll destroy your tires. You'll want harder bump damper and maybe softer rebound, or else you'll risk swapping ends under braking, since there'll be too little load on the rear tires. But these are all counter-measures to the shorter wheel-base.

If we assume the CG is at the absolute same place, not same relative place, you'll get some other pros and cons.

This is all highely speculative and could be completely wrong. At any rate the entire car works together as a package. If you set up a long wheelbase car with stiffer suspension you'll get some of the agility back. I'm not qualified to say what the difference will be. This might be different takes on trying to make the tires last. With a soft short-wheel based car you'll at least be giving your tires a hard time.

EDIT: Are you sure the pictures a representative? I double-checked the Mercedes vs the Red Bull. The Red Bull's wheels were 100px in diameter, while the Mercedes' was 97. That means the mercedes picture should be blown up by 3,1% compared to the Red Bull. The Mercedes wheelbase in the picture is 480px while it should've been 495. It's still a bit shorter than the McLaren, but then again I didn't check against the McLaren.
 
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navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
The Bahrain GP organisers continue to insist that plans for the race are going ahead and that they are “monitoring the situation” in the country.

Bernie Ecclestone meanwhile has dropped the strongest hint yet that the race is in danger of cancellation, saying that there will have to be a decision by next week – which will be shortly before the teams have to start thinking about shipping their cars to the test on March 3-6.

The bottom line is that delaying what now looks like an inevitable decision will only do harm to the image of F1 around the globe, as once again the sport is seen to believe that it exists in a bubble, free of any interference from the real world.

Many people outside the sport are probably astonished that any attempt is being made to keep the event alive, given the events of the last 24 hours. And many in the sport – those of us still faced with a trip to Bahrain – feel that way too.

The cynical view might be that now it’s a question of who blinks first, the Bahrainis or Bernie, and what commercial impact if any that might have.

Speaking to Reuters tonight, Ecclestone said: “We’ll make a decision by Tuesday or Wednesday. If things stay as they are today, the answer is no. If it’s not quietened down by Wednesday, I think we will have to cancel probably. If you are making travel arrangements, I’d say don’t.”

Meanwhile the Bahrain organisers issued a pointless statement that repeated the sentiments expressed a couple of days ago, and added nothing new.

Bahrain International Circuit CEO, Shaikh Salman bin Isa Al Khalifa was quoted thus: “The safety of all Bahraini nationals, expats and overseas visitors is a priority at all times in the Kingdom and, at the Bahrain International Circuit, our focus at the present time remains on delivering another successful event in the form of the 2011 Gulf Air Formula 1 Bahrain Grand Prix, we continue to monitor the situation very closely indeed in association with the relevant authorities. Our priority at this time is ensuring the wellbeing of everyone associated with this event, and we will respond appropriately to any further developments.”
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moojito

moojito

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Bad times. The BBC article on it mentioned that since all the teams send a fair bit of their stuff to Bahrain by ship and that's already en route it makes it tricky to just use another track instead.
 
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Lucius86

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AcridMeat said:
So happy Kubi survived. Ridiculous crash.

edit: Is his co-driver okay?
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His co-driver was relatively unhurt from what I remember - Kubica received the brunt of the crash.

Live testing text is available on the BBC today from Barcelona. Click here
 
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