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The Official NeoGaf Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Thread

Tamanon

Banned
Ferrio said:
The DMW is weird, though I'm not sure if I'm convinced on it's mechanics... it definately makes me break out a huge grin.

It reminds me A LOT of pinball games where they have scenes triggered by where the ball goes.

It's even weirder when Cait Sith or Chocobo are "selected"
 

JonAmikar

Ignorant Scrub
Arg I was forced to get the Black/White Cover. :(

Did I miss out by not getting this one?

buck_ff7.jpg
 

Jirotrom

Member
Kodiak said:
oh i totally agree, its just kind of a bummer when the mission is like "you're going to Fort Condor!" and then you just go to Bland Desert Map C.
I agree as well... those are the parts that remind me of XII.

Im not a huge fan of the DMW... a little to random for my tastes.

JonAmikar said:
Arg I was forced to get the Black/White Cover. :(

Did I miss out by not getting this one?

buck_ff7.jpg
you mean the silver best buy cover...? I actually think that cover looked worse.
 

darkvir

Member
Just finished it at 15:55. Overall, had fun with this one. The CG overall was great and the ending was very well done. It blends with FFVII quite well... I can totally see the PS3 FFVII remake a reality.

Credits music = big win
 

Danj

Member
Noticed I had 5 quid's worth of points available at GAME and ended up preordering this for £19.99. Normally I wouldn't have bothered, but the artbook is apparently hardback, and being Final Fantasy it'll probably be worth a bob or two in a decade or so.
 

zoukka

Member
polyh3dron said:
It's tough for me to bring myself to pay $40 for a psp game, but is this game actually worth it?

If you use Euro's :lol


Jugding by the comments it's crap, but hey it's Fainaruu Fantajiii!!!1

Where can you order this the cheapest to Europe?
 

bjork

Member
So I've been doing some missions instead of the story, and I got
some materia from completing a tree of mako recovery missions
, but when I went back to do the
SOLDIER v. security guys missions, I got assraped by that last machine you fight with the big force field and the 100-somethingsomething cannon

I'm about 4.5 hours in, but I still have no idea how that roulette thing works. Sometimes it says my materia levels up, other times Zack levels up. Sometimes I get still pictures and a special attack, other times I get a video of something I didn't see in the story yet and then my HP is like 1.8x the max. What the hell?
 

jiggle

Member
3 of same pictures - limit breaks/summons
777 - level up
2 matchin numbers levels up the materia that's equiped on that slot number ( i.e. Equiping Fire on slot 3, and getting double 3, levels up Fire)
 

Monocle

Member
Picked this up yesterday. I was kind of hesitant about it considering what I've seen of Dirge of Cerberus, but positive feedback from someone I trust convinced me.

I'm about a half hour in--just finished the introduction and first tutorial mission, read all the emails and checked out the menus--and I'm loving it so far. The presentation is far better than I expected, with the nostalgic setting infused with a slick Advent Children-esque aesthetic. Great music. GREAT voice acting (which came as a surprise). And of course the CG cinematics are always a treat. The battle system clicked right away. I was dubious about it after watching some gameplay footage on YouTube a few days ago. Turns out it's really engaging and intuitive when I'm the one doing the controlling. The DMW system is...different. I haven't seen much of it so far since I've only been in something like three battles,
but I got three Angeal panels during the Behemoth (?) fight and saw a kickass limit break
.

Watching Zack's well-proportioned model run about in the FFVII world reminds me of controlling Cloud's superdeformed one in the original game, and reinforces my desire for a modern remake of the latter. I'm sure it would send certain purists into a frothing rage, but just imagine the glorious nerd euphoria of having the classic we all remember revived with the polish made possible by current technology.

I think I'll get back to the game now.
I haven't even leveled up yet, and I'm hungry to acquire more materia after the ones I used in the intro got "confiscated" (curse those thrifty Shinra bastards). It looks like I get to start off with Cure at least,
so it's not a total disaster.
 
zoukka said:
If you use Euro's :lol


Jugding by the comments it's crap, but hey it's Fainaruu Fantajiii!!!1

Where can you order this the cheapest to Europe?

The cheapest one I saw is cduniverse.com, €27 shipped. If you find it cheaper somewhere please PM me ;)
 

Amon37

Member
Ninja99 said:
Picked this up yesterday. I was kind of hesitant about it considering what I've seen of Dirge of Cerberus, but positive feedback from someone I trust convinced me.

Spoiler tags? I know it's nitpicky but please, think of the children.
 
Played this for about 3 hours last night...really impressed so far.

I don't know what it is, but I still don't quite undertand the whole SP system...I mean, you gain SP for fighting, and then it costs SP every time you do your little slot machine thing. What am I missing? Is SP kida like Experience Points with just another layer added?
 
Whoompthereitis said:
Played this for about 3 hours last night...really impressed so far.

I don't know what it is, but I still don't quite undertand the whole SP system...I mean, you gain SP for fighting, and then it costs SP every time you do your little slot machine thing. What am I missing? Is SP kida like Experience Points with just another layer added?


Me neither. Also, I've played like 3 hours into the game and the only shop I can access is the ShinRa shop... Can't I upgrade my weapons so I get more materia slots? I've got lots of materia but I can't equip it cause I just have like 4 slots :/
 

Monocle

Member
Amon37 said:
Spoiler tags? I know it's nitpicky but please, think of the children.

I have not a clue what could be considered spoiler material (certainly not the part you quoted?) but I went with my best guess and tagged certain spots. Let me know how it looks.
 

RaidenZR

Member
I've been playing this sucker for the past two days, otherwise I'd have posted sooner. I'm really hooked on the combat since it's pretty interesting being active but requiring you to really gauge the phasing-action. Recently I am just being stupid and trying to amass a hoard of Materias to experiment and fuse with. It's becoming fun to see what i get, despite my results bottoming out. I need some more rare ones to start with as a foundation. Anyone have some good suggestions?

But story-wise I just got done with
the initial Aerith bit. I'm sorry but the writing is horrid. The game is gorgeous but the exposition is like the lowest common denominator anime-fan shit. No offense to anyone who's enjoying it, but almost every over-done story chunk really pulls me away from the gameplay, which has been surprising to me. What I mean is that I expected to be satisfied in the opposite direction, as in presentation and exposition first then gameplay second.

As an aside, I find myself torn on Zack. Sometimes I think he's a really cool character with identifiable personality, other times he's written as a twat. I'm hoping he develops more past his cookie-cutter brattitude as the game progresses, but thus far in my quest his personality is that of a high school retard from some disney channel sitcom. I do however love his little one-liners when you're in battle and the DMW cues up a support character. his "I'm trying!!!" when he calls Tseng up had me smiling. Likewise for his appeals to Angeal. And Cissnei's support is the shit. Zack's in-place jog and the starries swirling had me cracking up. Not to mention that the exchanges with her in Sector 8 seemed like the least-forced dialogue in the game.

Regardless, I'm hooked on side missions in between the main story arcs and I find the split engaging enough to keep playing. I will likely finish this sucker. What's the hour count for some of you that have finished it? I'm just looking for a rough estimate.
 

Barrett2

Member
About 4 hours in, my initial thoughts:

1) Visually fantastic, the first 'summon' battle early in the game is incredible

2) Sound effects / music are amazing, I love the battle music in particular, very catchy

3) Dialogue is embarrassing; I can't believe in 2008 a company
as rich as Square can't get better English voice-acting quality

4) Combat system is more enjoyable than I thought it would be

5) The approach to and accessibility of the side missions is very well designed, it shows a thoughtful approach to making a portable game. It's a very easy-to-digest way of delving into the depth of an RPG, but still having the ability to churn through the main story
 

TheExodu5

Banned
^I actually think the voice acting is good by jRPG standards. Better than any jRPG I've played in recent memory save Final Fantasy XII.

Also, damn this game looks good. Easily above God of War in my books, since it doesn't have such frequent framerate drops.

However, I am confused by the whole "slots" thing and leveling method. Maybe I should read the manual.
 

Amon37

Member
Ninja99 said:
I have not a clue what could be considered spoiler material (certainly not the part you quoted?) but I went with my best guess and tagged certain spots. Let me know how it looks.


No not the part I quoted but I didn't want quote and have it twice..lol

You tagged the exact sentences I was talking about. Basically anything story related or pieces of that game that someone would want to look forward to and not know beforehand or that isn't common knowledge.
 
ichigo kurosaki said:
Me neither. Also, I've played like 3 hours into the game and the only shop I can access is the ShinRa shop... Can't I upgrade my weapons so I get more materia slots? I've got lots of materia but I can't equip it cause I just have like 4 slots :/

You'll get more materia slots very soon as you progress in the story. As for shops though, I'm pretty far and I still only have two shops, and the market doesn't even show up on my shop list...
 

Tamanon

Banned
whiterabbit said:
You'll get more materia slots very soon as you progress in the story. As for shops though, I'm pretty far and I still only have two shops, and the market doesn't even show up on my shop list...

Some shops are opened up through missions, just like you get more accessory slots through missions.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Also, damn this game looks good. Easily above God of War in my books, since it doesn't have such frequent framerate drops.
Whoa now, that's a bit extreme. This does look good, but it's also displaying a LOT less than God of War. The environments in CC are much smaller and less detailed. God of War features quite possibly the most complex scenery in any PSP game to date and manages to keep the action just as intense as the PS2 games. Crisis Core simply isn't doing as much.
 

Trevelyan

Banned
The scene where (chpt. 4 spoilers):
Zack and Aerith first meet in the church almost made me cry =( The music and knowing of both of their eventual fates makes it so sad

God I'm such a woman :lol
 

Ferrio

Banned
Comment about a fairly well known character in this game, spoilering just because I'm being cautious.

I was surprised that they used "Aerith", instead of calling her "Aeris". When did they correct this and switch over?

The scene where (chpt. 4 spoilers):
Zack and Aerith first meet in the church almost made me cry =( The music and knowing of both of their eventual fates makes it so sad

God I'm such a woman

I tear up whenever I hear her theme.

I don't know what it is, but I still don't quite undertand the whole SP system...I mean, you gain SP for fighting, and then it costs SP every time you do your little slot machine thing. What am I missing? Is SP kida like Experience Points with just another layer added?

SP is also used for crafting materia. So far I don't see how I could ever run out of SP i have so much of the stuff.

Also so far normal is soooooo damn easy. I'm only on chapter 4 but I have like 3400 HP, and just plow through stuff by wearing 3 power wrists. I regret not picking hard.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
lawblob said:
3) Dialogue is embarrassing; I can't believe in 2008 a company
as rich as Square can't get better English voice-acting quality

I actually found Zack's, Aerith's, and Seph's voice acting quality to be pretty good. Superman sounds better used in this, than in AC.
 
dark10x said:
Whoa now, that's a bit extreme. This does look good, but it's also displaying a LOT less than God of War. The environments in CC are much smaller and less detailed. God of War features quite possibly the most complex scenery in any PSP game to date and manages to keep the action just as intense as the PS2 games. Crisis Core simply isn't doing as much.

QFT. While the game looks and sounds amazing nothing beats GOW:CoO visually yet.
 
Just picked this up at Gamestop at lunch since I had a $25 gift card. They offered me a UMD case if I reserved any game, but since there is nothing coming out (and I hate going into Gamestop when I can avoid it) I said 'no.'

Just a heads up in case someone really wants the case but didn't reserve.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
dark10x said:
Whoa now, that's a bit extreme. This does look good, but it's also displaying a LOT less than God of War. The environments in CC are much smaller and less detailed. God of War features quite possibly the most complex scenery in any PSP game to date and manages to keep the action just as intense as the PS2 games. Crisis Core simply isn't doing as much.

I still think it looks/feels better. The super steady framerate and responsive controls really set this one ahead of GoW for me. I find the textures look nicer too. The HUD looks great as well.

edit: let's just say that while I think GoW looked amazing, it felt unpolished. This game, on the other hand, feels like the most polished PSP game I've played since Disgaea.
 
Lonestar said:
I actually found Zack's, Aerith's, and Seph's voice acting quality to be pretty good. Superman sounds better used in this, than in AC.

The voice acting itself is excellent, but towards the end it's obvious that some of the animations are recycled. It's the writing that is truly horrid. Pure Final Fantasy through and through, and that's the sad part.
 

Datrio

Member
Haha, Zack fanclub spoiler:

On my second playthrough I joined the Zack fanclub. Right after the Nibelheim I got a message from his fanclub about his death and the following info: "Our thanks go to all 51,836 members out there. May Zack always live within our hearts." I think that's why I love these mail messages. They give some insight on the story, but besides that, they liven up the atmosphere.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Peronthious said:
The voice acting itself is excellent, but towards the end it's obvious that some of the animations are recycled. It's the writing that is truly horrid. Pure Final Fantasy through and through, and that's the sad part.

I'm not sure it's the writing as much as the translation. The small, self-contained scenes work nicely, but some of the scenes that are supposed to function as pure exposition struggle to maintain coherency...mostly anything with Genesis.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Ok, there were some games and the bucket recently got considerably filled by Patapon and GoW:Chains of Olympus...

But Crisis Core is a gigantic last drop. I'm buying a PSP.
 
Y2Kev said:
I'm not sure it's the writing as much as the translation. The small, self-contained scenes work nicely, but some of the scenes that are supposed to function as pure exposition struggle to maintain coherency...mostly anything with Genesis.

Good point. A lot of the stuff said by Genesis, especially the LOVELESS quotes, seem like they'd be hard to translate, and I feel the translators did a decent job in that regard. It's more the over prelevance of the quotes and how much the add to what's already a fairly melodramatic game that bugs me, though I guess it could be considerably different in the original Japanese.
 
Spiegel said:
Holy shit, the ending is fucking awesome.
Man tears indeed

Best final scenes ever

I kept hearing that "It's Guy Love" song from the musical episode of Scrubs playing during that whole cutscene
:lol
 

Ricker

Member
Alaluef said:
Ok, there were some games and the bucket recently got considerably filled by Patapon and GoW:Chains of Olympus...

But Crisis Core is a gigantic last drop. I'm buying a PSP.

You wont regret it,the PSP is awesome,the damn thing even has Skype now ;)
 

S. L.

Member
curse you america! *shakefist*
just ordered it, hope it arrives next week here.
on the plus side the strong euro makes it really cheap
 

Aruarian Reflection

Chauffeur de la gdlk
Alaluef said:
Ok, there were some games and the bucket recently got considerably filled by Patapon and GoW:Chains of Olympus...

But Crisis Core is a gigantic last drop. I'm buying a PSP.

You might even say it was a splash.

Drip dripdrip drip
Splash
Drip drip
 
Alaluef said:
Ok, there were some games and the bucket recently got considerably filled by Patapon and GoW:Chains of Olympus...

But Crisis Core is a gigantic last drop. I'm buying a PSP.

I don't think you will regret it, even for just those 3 games, let alone all the cheap gems, downloadable content, remote play and unknown cool stuff coming out.
 

Adamrogo

Banned
I'm not reading the thread because I don't want to read any spoilers, so I apologize if this has been asked.

Has anyone had any successful materia fusions?

We should post all the combinations that yield rare or strong items.

Anyone?
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
btutterrow said:
I don't think you will regret it, even for just those 3 games, let alone all the cheap gems, downloadable content, remote play and unknown cool stuff coming out.
There's some other stuff like LocoRoco, Lumines (I love the cellphone version), and other games I see in ads and places, also including what's to come as you mentioned, but yeah, those three are the ones interesting me the most at the moment, I simply can't resist any longer. :)

Ricker said:
You wont regret it,the PSP is awesome,the damn thing even has Skype now ;)
I have a friend that has a PSP for quite a long time now, he played a great part on convincing me. :D

SnowWolf said:
You might even say it was a splash.

Drip dripdrip drip
Splash
Drip drip
You're right. :lol

The funny thing is that I bought a PS2 years ago mainly to play Final Fantasy X and Kingdom Hearts. I guess in the end it all comes down to the fact that I'm a SE fanboy at heart.
 
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