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The Official NeoGaf Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Thread

Kagari said:
Took me around 30 hours first time through, however I didn't do all of the side missions.

You did none of the side missions and yet took 30 hours? That's quite a while; I did around 30% of the side missions and had a 16-ish hour playtime.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Peronthious said:
You did none of the side missions and yet took 30 hours? That's quite a while; I did around 30% of the side missions and had a 16-ish hour playtime.

I did about 30% of them.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Amir0x said:
I have zero positive nostalgia surrounding FFVII, so I'm not sure if that helps me much.

I purchased it and beat FFVII when it launched, I think the universe had some vague potential that was mostly subsequently destroyed by the atrocious movie and the abysmal Dirge of Cerberus. From jGAF impressions, I thought maybe Crisis Core would stand on its own in terms of gameplay, and help at least salvage some of the FFVII universe lore from oblivion.

I was hoping this. I still hope this, but this is what I feared. Impossible to tell who of jGAF is wide-eyed adoration of this fabled game, or who can be trustworthy. I really don't want to throw my $40 away after the last few times I fell for the FFVII trap...
The last 2 were traps, yes. This is (by far) the best of the Compilation.

Synless said:
We won't be selling them until tomorrow with no exeptions, at least my store is being like that....I tried to swindle them into selling my copy early because I work there and failed.
I called them and the service is just shitty at the Flint store. Damn, they didn't even wanna check. They are lucky I'm not a prick and started telling them to serve their customer better.

KTallguy said:
Dirge is pretty bad, apparently, I haven't played it.

Advent Children is nice to watch once, I guess.

Crisis Core is an excellent game. Really well made and fun to play.
This is what I should've said as well. It felt fun and gave me the same feel I get when playing a good console RPG. For 40, and the portability, I feel really good about my purchase.
 

KTallguy

Banned
Amir0x said:
I was hoping this. I still hope this, but this is what I feared. Impossible to tell who of jGAF is wide-eyed adoration of this fabled game, or who can be trustworthy. I really don't want to throw my $40 away after the last few times I fell for the FFVII trap...

Dirge is pretty bad, apparently, I haven't played it.

Advent Children is nice to watch once, I guess.

Crisis Core is an excellent game. Really well made and fun to play.
 

Synless

Member
Amir0x said:
I have zero positive nostalgia surrounding FFVII, so I'm not sure if that helps me much.

I purchased it and beat FFVII when it launched, I think the universe had some vague potential that was mostly subsequently destroyed by the atrocious movie and the abysmal Dirge of Cerberus. From jGAF impressions, I thought maybe Crisis Core would stand on its own in terms of gameplay, and help at least salvage some of the FFVII universe lore from oblivion.

I was hoping this. I still hope this, but this is what I feared. Impossible to tell who of jGAF is wide-eyed adoration of this fabled game, or who can be trustworthy. I really don't want to throw my $40 away after the last few times I fell for the FFVII trap...
As a hardcore final fantasy fan and an even bigger FF7 fan, I can say that Dirge sucked but from what I played of the japanese version I can safely say that this game is worth the purchase.
 
shifty100 said:
Beautiful looking game, but it does seem to be all style and no substance.

Definitely made for the fans and with no real interest in attracting new players to the genre, no real depth in combat with a story which is extremely generic.

Music, presentation, cut scenes etc are excellent and definitely the best on the system .... but the game is not mind blowing.

GOW:COO was a bigger breakthrough in terms of the handheld world moving up and closer to home console presentation, story, gameplay and overall feel.

Enjoyable I am sure for the countless FF fans and they will lap it up, for everyone else ..... approach with caution.

7/10

How long did you play it and in what language?
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I don't think you can compare a 5 hour action game with an RPG that is obviously designed for a handheld (tons and tons of sidequests that are quick and easy to play).
 

KTallguy

Banned
shifty100 said:
Definitely made for the fans and with no real interest in attracting new players to the genre, no real depth in combat with a story which is extremely generic.

I disagree. There's quite a bit of depth to the combat system, especially when you start working on the harder sub-missions. The main story is pretty easy, but the harder missions will kill you, and you'll have to adapt. One thing that's nice is that magic is different than other games, lighting is a short range burst, fire is a homing missile, and ice is a stationary attack that materializes over an enemy (but misses if they move). In this sense, the game becomes a lot more action like, and you're not just thinking about elementals when you attack. Timing is much more important.

I hadn't played FF7 for... over 7 years, and I still found the story relatively easy to follow. You only really need to know the basic premise of FF7 to enjoy the story, and even without that it's totally understandable. I'll admit that some familiarity with the characters and universe can make the game more interesting, as there is an element of nostalgia associated with the story, but it's all explained pretty well.

I think that it takes a bit of time to get to the "good stuff" in this game, maybe 1 or 2 hours at the most. But I really enjoyed the game. So much content to unlock, it's unbelievable.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
The Gamecrazy in my town has it in. As do several others, according to reports.

I've never really shopped at a Gamecrazy, but I just had the typical "Gamestop" experience over the phone. The local Gamecrazy where I'm working (Salinas, CA) actually had it in stop, but there was just a little too much glee in the clerk's voice when they told me that they only had it for their pre-orders.

Ass.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
dammitmattt said:
I've never really shopped at a Gamecrazy, but I just had the typical "Gamestop" experience over the phone. The local Gamecrazy where I'm working (Salinas, CA) actually had it in stop, but there was just a little too much glee in the clerk's voice when they told me that they only had it for their pre-orders.

Ass.

lol, what a jerk... afaik most stores that took reserves on the game are getting plenty extra.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Kagari said:
lol, what a jerk... afaik most stores that took reserves on the game are getting plenty extra.
Ditto. My small town has over 20 pre-orders and about 15 more for sale. I could only imagine what my old home in Reseda/Northridge, CA has.
 

Synless

Member
LiquidMetal14 said:
Ditto. My small town has over 20 pre-orders and about 15 more for sale. I could only imagine what my old home in Reseda/Northridge, CA has.
Just be ready for tomorrow liquid, I know I will be playing through all my classes, and then some more when I get home.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
neojubei said:
Bestbuy should have this game tomorrow?

I'm getting up early and going to a big BB.

I'm going to post ONCE once I have it...and then I am not posting again until I finish the main story.

I'm gonna marathon it. Should be done Wednesday night.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Ditto. My small town has over 20 pre-orders and about 15 more for sale. I could only imagine what my old home in Reseda/Northridge, CA has.

Yeah...Salinas, CA isn't exactly the most happening place in the world. I'll cruise by the store on the way home and check it out.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Y2Kev said:
I'm getting up early and going to a big BB.

I'm going to post ONCE once I have it...and then I am not posting again until I finish the main story.

I'm gonna marathon it. Should be done Wednesday night.
Some movie studio needs to adapt your experience into a movie. I predict Keanu Reeves will play the role of you!!!!
Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnununununununu :O
 

CAVE343

Member
Y2Kev said:
I'm getting up early and going to a big BB.

I'm going to post ONCE once I have it...and then I am not posting again until I finish the main story.

I'm gonna marathon it. Should be done Wednesday night.

Ow I envy you, well all of you. I wish I could marathon this. Stupid EU, have to wait for the import (hurray DHL)
 

shifty100

Banned
I am going to play it again, maybe during my first play through I was overwhelmed by the amount of fan lore that I have no knowledge of.

I want to like this game because as I stated, the whole JRPG scene is foreign to me.
 

stay gold

Member
bad-joey said:
Ow I envy you, well all of you. Stupid EU, have to wait for the import (hurray DHL)

Did you order the US version? I cancelled my order and went with the asian version instead when I saw it had released a week earlier. Hopefully it'll come tomorrow if the post is back to normal :)
 

Evlar

Banned
shifty100 said:
I am going to play it again, maybe during my first play through I was overwhelmed by the amount of fan lore that I have no knowledge of.

I want to like this game because as I stated, the whole JRPG scene is foreign to me.
Honestly you should introduce yourself to jRPG with another game. I would suggest FFX or Dragon Quest VIII if you want a pure jRPG experience without excessive backstory baggage.
 

Synless

Member
The Sphinx said:
Honestly you should introduce yourself to jRPG with another game. I would suggest FFX or Dragon Quest VIII if you want a pure jRPG experience without excessive backstory baggage.
DQVIII, isn't a beginners rpg if you ask me, leveling up takes forever and and you need to grind like hell in that game.....not to mention it's so long, I would stick with FFX though.
 

inner-G

Banned
DMPrince said:
For those interested

The Square Enix Member [NA] site is up!

There's currently a contest to win one of 10 soundtracks signed by Takeharu Ishimoto

http://member.square-enix.com/na/
The site has a sig generator:
10068.gif
 

CAVE343

Member
replayy said:
Did you order the US version? I cancelled my order and went with the asian version instead when I saw it had released a week earlier. Hopefully it'll come tomorrow if the post is back to normal :)

Yup ordered the US version. Yeah postal service is down because of the holidays. (Easter)
But hope mine gets here soon, maybe you' ll be lucky and it turns up tommorow :)
 

dirtmonkey37

flinging feces ---->
For a big FFVII fan, is this game, alone, worth getting a PSP for or is it just a "great" game that does not absolutely need to be experienced?

I honestly don't understand all the Advent Children hate. Yes, it was a bit hard to understand if you hadn't brushed up on your FFVII knowledge and yes, it did become somewhat of a Dragonball Z fest, but I find the film to stand on its own merits in terms of how exciting and nostalgiac it is. I own it and have watched it three times; I've loved it through-and-through each and every time I watched it.

Someone explain the hate.
 

Snaku

Banned
DMPrince said:
For those interested

The Square Enix Member [NA] site is up!

There's currently a contest to win one of 10 soundtracks signed by Takeharu Ishimoto

http://member.square-enix.com/na/

Awesome. I used the contest comment box to push the FFVII remake agenda. Shit, if they started on it now, and didn't have it out until 2011, I'd be 27. Will I even still care? I'm not getting any younger... :(
 

inner-G

Banned
Snaku said:
Awesome. I used the contest comment box to push the FFVII remake agenda. Shit, if they started on it now, and didn't have it out until 2011, I'd be 27. Will I even still care? I'm not getting any younger... :(
I'm 27.

You'll still care. :D
 

KTallguy

Banned
Y2Kev said:
I'm getting up early and going to a big BB.

I'm going to post ONCE once I have it...and then I am not posting again until I finish the main story.

I'm gonna marathon it. Should be done Wednesday night.

I dunno man, you might be better served playing some of the side missions. The game isn't super long without those. Also many of the better skills and magic attacks are earned by playing the sidequests.
 

inner-G

Banned
dirtmonkey37 said:
Someone explain the hate.
VII purists.

Among the hardcore, there are purists, and anything done as far as spin-offs, remakes, ports, etc. they feel 'cheapen' the original.

Not to mention that the AC story was not really on the same level of VII the game, imo.
 

batbeg

Member
dirtmonkey37 said:
For a big FFVII fan, is this game, alone, worth getting a PSP for or is it just a "great" game that does not absolutely need to be experienced?

I honestly don't understand all the Advent Children hate. Yes, it was a bit hard to understand if you hadn't brushed up on your FFVII knowledge and yes, it did become somewhat of a Dragonball Z fest, but I find the film to stand on its own merits in terms of how exciting and nostalgiac it is. I own it and have watched it three times; I've loved it through-and-through each and every time I watched it.

Someone explain the hate.

I didn't like the airbrushed good looks of everyone, or the flying-through-the-air fighting bullshit choreography, I felt like the few characters to be featured in any meaningful way were generally completely ruined, and the new ones were plain annoying.

I basically enjoyed Rufus throwing off his cloak and diving off the building.
 

Tamanon

Banned
dammitmattt said:
I've never really shopped at a Gamecrazy, but I just had the typical "Gamestop" experience over the phone. The local Gamecrazy where I'm working (Salinas, CA) actually had it in stop, but there was just a little too much glee in the clerk's voice when they told me that they only had it for their pre-orders.

Ass.

Yeah that's bull, if there's one company that overships games, it's Square.

That's like them saying "Oh we only have Madden for preorders"

Hit all my local stores, Gamestop had it behind the counter but wouldn't break street date for me, then had the nerve to ask me if I'd preorder it.:lol
 

neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
Tamanon said:
Yeah that's bull, if there's one company that overships games, it's Square.

That's like them saying "Oh we only have Madden for preorders"

Hit all my local stores, Gamestop had it behind the counter but wouldn't break street date for me, then had the nerve to ask me if I'd preorder it.:lol


Yea same thing happened to me when I asked about MGS portable ops for the psp. I ended up buying it at CC.
 

batbeg

Member
I'm being told I've already entered the contest for the signed soundtrack. Are you entered just for registering, even if you registered before the site opened?

I hope there's a way to change the address as I use a phony address for everything.
 

SomeDude

Banned
dirtmonkey37 said:
For a big FFVII fan, is this game, alone, worth getting a PSP for or is it just a "great" game that does not absolutely need to be experienced?

I honestly don't understand all the Advent Children hate. Yes, it was a bit hard to understand if you hadn't brushed up on your FFVII knowledge and yes, it did become somewhat of a Dragonball Z fest, but I find the film to stand on its own merits in terms of how exciting and nostalgiac it is. I own it and have watched it three times; I've loved it through-and-through each and every time I watched it.

Someone explain the hate.


It feels like a Michael Bay directed Final Fantasy.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Tamanon said:
Yeah that's bull, if there's one company that overships games, it's Square.

That's like them saying "Oh we only have Madden for preorders"

Hit all my local stores, Gamestop had it behind the counter but wouldn't break street date for me, then had the nerve to ask me if I'd preorder it.:lol

wat, there is no street date. We got an email that said to start selling it as soon as we got it.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
KTallguy said:
I dunno man, you might be better served playing some of the side missions. The game isn't super long without those. Also many of the better skills and magic attacks are earned by playing the sidequests.

dont care

must consume story
 

Defuser

Member
Y2Kev said:
dont care

must consume story
You must,main story doesn't really unlock much stuff. Side missions is where all the real goodies are hidden. You can unlock shops/godly armors.etc in side missions.

Plus the missions are harder than main story.
 

dirtmonkey37

flinging feces ---->
inner-G said:
VII purists.

Among the hardcore, there are purists, and anything done as far as spin-offs, remakes, ports, etc. they feel 'cheapen' the original.

Not to mention that the AC story was not really on the same level of VII the game, imo.

I agree with the bold. But, remember that FFVII was a twenty-five to forty hour RPG, so granted, it had more time to flesh out the characters, world, and the intricacies of its convoluted but ever-intriguing plot. Advent Children was just a means of revisiting the world with the new developments of CGI to more accurately realize the Final Fantasy VII universe.

A few days back, a user posted that the plot developments of Advent Children essentially amounted to nothing -- with this I agree whole heartedly. Yet I still abide by my own notion that the film served to give us another glimpse of the characters, the unmatched talent of Square's animation and CGI studio, exciting action, and incremental additions to the FFVII legend. Geostigma and Kadaj were nothing more than a blip on the radar of prodigious proportions that was story of the actual FFVII PS1 RPG.

Those in charge of producing the film intended to give Final Fantasy VII fans another (reinvigorated) taste of the world, and I felt they succeeded in doing so.

EDIT:

...and the point about the purists: that would have sufficed as reason enough for why people here bear such animosity toward the film :D.
 
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