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The Oily, Gentlemanly Super Spin Fighter 4 Reveal Thread of Kunoichis and Karatekas

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Dizzy-4U

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Lariat should be a motion, not 3 freaking buttons pressing. Let's see how fast can you spam it from a crouching position if it's back shoryu+k or something like that.
 

Totakeke

Member
Dizzy-4U said:
Lariat should be a motion, not 3 freaking buttons pressing. Let's see how fast can you spam it from a crouching position if it's back shoryu+k or something like that.

A 360 motion? :lol
 
Drop a hit from the lariat and reduce the hitbox and in turn give him an EX lariat using all 6 buttons that spins faster (like his KKK one in EX) and hits twice and I'm all for it.

Also, make Sagat's TK rise a bit higher to give it better anti-air properties but reduce it to a single hit in juggles and make it longer recovery due to the higher arc. Would make it more useful while reducing the safety of it from people just tossing it out there randomly and countering close to everything.
 

RS4-

Member
All these lariat complaints makes me feel like I should complain about stuff too.

Let's nerf Rufus' ex dp+p move damage to a quarter of what it does now.
Let's also get rid of his scrub, mash friendly ex messiah
And his target launcher into free ultra
And his spin into ultra
And his c.hp and j.rh

:lol
 
RS4- said:
All these lariat complaints makes me feel like I should complain about stuff too.

Let's nerf Rufus' ex dp+p move damage to a quarter of what it does now.
Let's also get rid of his scrub, mash friendly ex messiah
And his target launcher into free ultra
And his spin into ultra
And his c.hp and j.rh

:lol

Personally, I think just kill off Rufus. He's a useless bag of fat and just an annoying character anyway. Cheng was better 15 years ago. :lol
 
k... jus tlooked at the supposed list of returning characters... :)

fuck yes!

as sad as it sounds, in SFIV the only char I was comfy with was Dan :lol

with Guy, Cody, Adon, and Makoto I'm set :)
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Does anyone else think that if Capcom releases this as a stand alone game (same with Arc Systems and the new Blaz Blue) that this will actually do much more harm to fighting games than good? Think about it. We've seen great fighters hit this year and the return of classics that have really brought the scene back. Why would you repeat the mistakes of the past? Why do they believe stand alone iterations will work again in this day and age for a genre that is really just trying to awaken again? It won't. It will kill any goodwill people have given the scene again.

These iterations have to be at least offered as DLC for owners of the original game for a nominal fee. They just have to be.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
LakeEarth said:
Zangief is a scrub killer. Which isn't going to help people trying to get into fighting games. Unless they pick Zangief (why learn combos and strategies where you can press a button that will counter 90% of the moves in the game?).
Best explanation ever. Gief forces you to fight totally differently than you would against the rest of the cast, more or less. This is especially bad for me cuz I'm always trying to press and that's death against a good Gief. I get away with it against Lariat spammers since they don't realize Gen's jump in FP will beat it clean. But dude's just a tank generally and no fun to fight.
 
I think what people don't understand about disc vs. download release for something like this is that you limit your sales market by a HUGE NUMBER if you go with this as an add-on download only.

Add-on for Street Fighter IV = 2.5 million people you can sell to.

Brand new disc = 40 million people you can sell to.

I think that's about as far as the discussion goes at a company like Capcom.

Same reason RE5:Alternate isn't a download add-on. It limits sales to only those who already bought the game.
 
Kintaro said:
Does anyone else think that if Capcom releases this as a stand alone game (same with Arc Systems and the new Blaz Blue) that this will actually do much more harm to fighting games than good? Think about it. We've seen great fighters hit this year and the return of classics that have really brought the scene back. Why would you repeat the mistakes of the past? Why do they believe stand alone iterations will work again in this day and age for a genre that is really just trying to awaken again? It won't. It will kill any goodwill people have given the scene again.

These iterations have to be at least offered as DLC for owners of the original game for a nominal fee. They just have to be.
i hope they do both

i'll get the retail version, though
 

Spruchy

Member
Offering it as both DLC and disc would be really cool on Capcom's part and I wouldn't be completely surprised if they choose to go this route but im inclined to think that they won't.
 
fuck the haters, I'm getting this game day 1 no matter what. never really played 3rd strike and didn't really use cody/guy in alpha so it's pretty much 10 brand new characters for me :). I just hope they keep bisons sexiness in SSFIV. I love me some purple fist
 

Zapages

Member
Stabby McSter said:
i hope they do both

i'll get the retail version, though


Sell DLC for 40 online and 60 standard, 80 (Bonus) in store. So fans can play both. Also include small DLC patch for regular SF IV players so that they can play against SSFIV characters.

PS: I will probably get the game in store with bonus day one as well. :lol I hope DLC Costumes this time around.
 

LowParry

Member
For the love of GOD Capcom, make this shit happen!

seownq.jpg
 

Zapages

Member
CcrooK said:
For the love of GOD Capcom, make this shit happen!

Karin Image


Agreed... Also mature both Sakura and Karin... They look weird in school clothes...

I was fairly good with Karin back in SF3Alpha days. lol

Excited about Dudley, T. Hawk and Guy though. :)
 
Again, I'd be surprised if every one of the rumored characters will actually be in SSF4. Can someone tell me why people are assuming characterse like Dudley or Adon will be in the game? Where did this come from?
 

Threi

notag
bdizzle said:
fuck the haters, I'm getting this game day 1 no matter what. never really played 3rd strike and didn't really use cody/guy in alpha so it's pretty much 10 brand new characters for me :). I just hope they keep bisons sexiness in SSFIV. I love me some purple fist
Psycho Crusher needs a buff, devils reverse hand needs to be able to hit on both sides, headstomp needs more priority against SRK, and better tracking. It is too easy to whiff


The man needs his cape back as well, and the cutthroat motion as a taunt.
 

MightyKAC

Member
Kintaro said:
Does anyone else think that if Capcom releases this as a stand alone game (same with Arc Systems and the new Blaz Blue) that this will actually do much more harm to fighting games than good? Think about it. We've seen great fighters hit this year and the return of classics that have really brought the scene back. Why would you repeat the mistakes of the past? Why do they believe stand alone iterations will work again in this day and age for a genre that is really just trying to awaken again? It won't. It will kill any goodwill people have given the scene again.

These iterations have to be at least offered as DLC for owners of the original game for a nominal fee. They just have to be.


It will, but Capcom knows that it can hold our hobby for ransom and enough of us will pay the price of a new game for what is in essence an upgrade.

And I agree. Giving us the option to upgrade via disc or d/l would be the only "far" way...
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Lost Fragment said:
No way this will be DLC at all if the rumored characters are true. The file would be too big.
the dlc for all the alternate character models in sf4 is only 300mb~ IIRC
 

Squids

Banned
Dizzy-4U said:
Lariat should be a motion, not 3 freaking buttons pressing. Let's see how fast can you spam it from a crouching position if it's back shoryu+k or something like that.

Smartest person in this thread. Seriously though they know who they need to nerf and tweak seriously. I would be pissed off if feis chicken wing isn't a fireball motion, faster for having a more diffulcult motion or do more damage..just an example what they need to fix. They know who to nerf, leave alone and tweak and i would love to see these "Top" elite players use a low tier character and win a tournament oh wait...:lol
 

Rektash

Member
Oh god, I just want Makoto :lol. I don t care for anything else, just give me Makoto and don t fuck her up too bad (pls mid tier at least). I will insta switch my main for her (big ugly Balrog).
 

VaLiancY

Member
Threi said:
Psycho Crusher needs a buff, devils reverse hand needs to be able to hit on both sides, headstomp needs more priority against SRK, and better tracking. It is too easy to whiff


The man needs his cape back as well, and the cutthroat motion as a taunt.

I'm with this one.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Dizzy-4U said:
Lariat should be a motion, not 3 freaking buttons pressing. Let's see how fast can you spam it from a crouching position if it's back shoryu+k or something like that.
Easy.

D, DB, D, DB, D, DB, D, DB, D, DB, ... with K, K, K, K, K, K, ...
 
Oh god, I guess I'll pick up the new version up when it's $20-30. There's no way in hell that'll I pay $70 again for the same game I bought 7 months ago with minor tweaks and bunch of new characters.

Should have known better and waited. Damn it Capcom, you are a harsh mistress. :lol
 

Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
Pandaman said:
the dlc for all the alternate character models in sf4 is only 300mb~ IIRC

Yeah, but they were already on the disc, and were just simple texture swaps anyway. But with SSF4, each new character will have to have an intro movie and an ending movie. I'm guessing they'll have music/rival sequences too. Plus, the AI for their characters, the programming for the characters, the voice acting for the characters, etc. That stuff adds up.

On top of that, it would include the new code and stuff for non-character-specific changes to the game system, adjustments to the game's UI and assets, and other things.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
hikarutilmitt said:
Personally, I think just kill off Rufus. He's a useless bag of fat and just an annoying character anyway.

For some odd reason, well, not odd...anyway. This made me think of Justin Wong.

I have no idea why, I don't dislike him, or really have an opinion of him outside of him being a great SF player.

The internetz hate must is subliminal.
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Leunam said:
They were already on the disc.
I know, but you can see it all with the pc version anyway.

also how is akums giant bow or sakuras shirt or cammy's clothes or el fuertes chef hat, etc, etc 'texture swaps'?
 
Threi said:
Psycho Crusher needs a buff, devils reverse hand needs to be able to hit on both sides, headstomp needs more priority against SRK, and better tracking. It is too easy to whiff


The man needs his cape back as well, and the cutthroat motion as a taunt.

That would be a mean ambiguous crossup if Devil's reverse had a double sided/wider hitbox.

The headstomp always lands where your opponent is when Bison leaves the ground. So one way to make it track better is to make it faster eliminating the option for your opponent to step backward and punish. It would connect on an opponent backdash but will result in a reset on hit. It's been a while since I've really played against or as bison, but I think EX-Headstomp works this way. The higher priority headstomp should stick with the EX version. Bison does need to have a nerfed s.RH though. Maybe increased recovery on it or something.
 

Threi

notag
GalacticAE said:
Bison does need to have a nerfed s.RH though. Maybe increased recovery on it or something.
If they nerf his st.RH then it needs more priority, like sim's knee. Its bison's only real AA (well c.hp is too but lets forget about that for now) without a charge and one of his main weaknesses.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
Xevren said:
9$. Better to sell it in the buy/sell trade thread on here.
As long as it's over $2, and I can find three other games, I can get a $20 bonus.

(maybe I'll do the buy/sell/trade thread...)
 
GalacticAE said:
Again, I'd be surprised if every one of the rumored characters will actually be in SSF4. Can someone tell me why people are assuming characterse like Dudley or Adon will be in the game? Where did this come from?

Adon has to be in. Sagat vs Adon fights will make the game 80% better, it's just great to look at.
 
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