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The PS5 Reveal Has Put All the Pressure Back on Microsoft - Ryan McCaffrey
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EverydayBeast
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Microsoft is sorta sitting by their self, and actually the pressure is on SONY to win 3 generations in a row
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pr0cs
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That same company is now working on the ps5 little big planet title, so I don't think we should really include it in any lists. Sumo Digital sucks
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pasterpl
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damn, it means that if you don't have driving license you should not mention racing sims, I never fired a gun but I play shooters, and damn I enjoy it. Your logic is flawed.
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regardless of the game type, any real time, in game footage is a valid to be listed, especially if it is as impressive as ms flight simulator 2020. To be honest, I expect this to play best to high end pc, but everyone should be happy that there are games as ambitious as this flight sim.
longdi
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This round, MS has the better hardware, they wont be beat on price, the full network infrastructure, they are building a long term ecosystem with gamepass and bc. They only lack word of mouth praises. This was lost because of Xbox One mistakes, but before that, Xbox was big in americas and uk.
I dont think they are feeling the pressure. It is not like windows phones where there are much less apps. Series X will get tons of games.
I dont think they are feeling the pressure. It is not like windows phones where there are much less apps. Series X will get tons of games.
Jigsaah
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McCaffrey has always been a closet Sony fan. Anybody who followed IGN around the time of the Xbox One X announcement leading up to the release knows this. I remember the main question he asked when the Xbox One X came out was "Who is the Xbox Series X for?" I don't remember him asking that when the Pro came out a year before claiming the same upgrades that the X did. Ever since then he's lost credibility in my eyes. He's always the guy spreading doubt for unneccesary reasons. I also hardly think PS5's conference "struck back HARD with a vengeance". I've seem Sony curbstomp Microsoft before...this was not even close to the visceral clap back you claim it is. It was a decent show, solid 7/10 with a barely any gameplay and no insight on launch titles.
Opinion: The PS5 Reveal Has Put All the Pressure Back on Microsoft - IGN
Xbox has a chance to answer back after Sony's strong PS5 showing, but are they ready?www.ign.com
Are diehard Xbox guys losing patience with Xbox? Is McCaffrey a traitor? Will Xbox's event in July change everything and make articles like this age poorly? Let's see.
Xbox has been poking a very quiet bear for a while now. Yesterday, that bear woke up and struck back HARD and with a vengeance. How will Xbox respond? Do they have the ammo to make a counterattack? It should be interesting.
That being said, I think he's right, the ball's in Microsoft's court now. They have to show their 1st party games, and they will, in July. At this point, I feel that since Sony did not have a lot of gameplay, then Microsoft probably won't either. So in the end we will be comparing two anemic presentations to one another, which honestly makes this thread seem pretty trivial.
But it's fun to debate, so I bit.
Jigga117
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I don't get the logic of fanboys talking about MS has a lot of work to do. They have been consistent since 2019 an providing clear information when it comes to the Series X. Features and breakdown of the actual system. Today you stick with your Xbox One. Tomorrow you upgrade to series X and peripherals and software come along with free upgrade to graphics and add on ray-tracing at no extra cost beyond buying the new console. The same hypocrites tried labeling this as some issue but yet the first game they boost about was a 12 year old already enhanced game as the start of the show which flies in direct contradiction to (we are moving forward) and "showing what the PS5 can do". Sony isn't stupid just like MS they see the same future MS has been seeing. The digital option(which fanboys laughed at MS about and now crickets) along with the same fanboys that post about their backlog of games they got to get thru. The very same fanboys that will rebuy the enhanced version since the question of full backwards compatibility is still in the air for the PS5 vs a company ready to go day 1.
Hendrick's
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The Sony show was good not great. Xbox has a great opportunity to blow us away in July. Either way, price is the bigger battleground and will be the most important factor.
That said, if they shit the bed with Halo Infinite, it's going to be another rough start for Xbox.
That said, if they shit the bed with Halo Infinite, it's going to be another rough start for Xbox.
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Jigga117
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Why do people keep saying this BS? If the answer really was PC why do consoles even exist then? Why doesn't everyone have a 2080Ti or simply build their own computers? We got poeple that still can't figure out their own tv remotes but they need to spend $1k-4000 because PC is the answer for the same consoles that are plug and play?
Greatest Of All Time
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Article sounds mostly like fanboy bullshit on an old school GameFAQs level.
sircaw
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At the end of the day, you saw just how brilliant some of the ps5 exclusives where. Things like that Rachet and clank, demon souls remake and horizon were beyond brilliant. That's the standard set on ps5 and Microsoft had better match it.
The Xbox exclusives really need to shine. They need to go full out with a 10 minute game play demo of Halo. Then cut to fable, forza and Hellblade 2 NO GOD DAMN CUT SCENES.
Sorry to say but fuck multiplats, the ps5 graphics look stella and i could not give a flying donkeys arse if the multiplat looks slightly better on xbox due to 2 more tflops of power.
I want to see exclusive games, Microsoft fans need to be shown something better than something that is available everywhere else.
Microsoft fucked up their last event, it was pure garbage, They have now had a glimpse of what sony has, if they can not match it or fuck the next show up, they do not deserve to be in the console business.
Fingers crossed for them, the ball is in their court.
The Xbox exclusives really need to shine. They need to go full out with a 10 minute game play demo of Halo. Then cut to fable, forza and Hellblade 2 NO GOD DAMN CUT SCENES.
Sorry to say but fuck multiplats, the ps5 graphics look stella and i could not give a flying donkeys arse if the multiplat looks slightly better on xbox due to 2 more tflops of power.
I want to see exclusive games, Microsoft fans need to be shown something better than something that is available everywhere else.
Microsoft fucked up their last event, it was pure garbage, They have now had a glimpse of what sony has, if they can not match it or fuck the next show up, they do not deserve to be in the console business.
Fingers crossed for them, the ball is in their court.
Die Namek Ability
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Do you have a source for this? Digital Foundry could not conclude for alot of the games.
Jigga117
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with all the hype this game looks like a hack n slash I can find on my Ipad in the app store. But I did love Thundercats as a kid.
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Hinedorf
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From my PoV the way I see it, if you're actually committed to hardcore gaming that cost really isn't significant to your hobby, also I do have a 2080Ti. The reason why most everybody does not is 2 reasons 1 - they are more expensive 2 - there's a lot more casuals than diehards.
I can totally understand thinking it's too expensive and unnecessary if you're really not into it that much, but gaming has been a life's passion and I like to experience it on the cutting edge. Depending on consoles is nothing short of just being lazy and ignorant if you're actually into the hobby of video gaming.
Why do consoles exist? Because they're simplistic and cheap.
trapanesenyc
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We've seen Hellblade 2 and graphically its as good or better than anything we seen at the sony event. Slap hellblade 1 gameplay on those graphics you have a hit. I think ratchet and demon souls are being overstated. I love soulsborne games, but it wouldn't take much to out show it. Simply showing a trailer of fable would be consider a much bigger win. I don't think Sony slam dunked the presentation. Everyone seems to agree it was good but only the hardcore are saying it was superb. It gave xbox a ton of room to live up to it. If they give an okay performance people will say both were comparable, if its as good as people are predicting it needs to be then it wont be close, a blowout of what all their first parties are showing will be overkill. If they show hellblade 2, fable, halo, inititive game, whatever obsidians working on, inexile new game, double fine new game...thats over kill lol
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godhandiscen
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sircaw
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The thing to remember is Sony still have alot of games in reserve. There is also a god of war 2, a new uncharted and if i guess correctly a proper spiderman 2 sequel still in the works somewhere.
I think the last show was very conservative from them, either way, that is done now and we move on. I just want to see better competition in quality games, the more the better.
cormack12
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I think you need to check my posting history. I have 3 PS4 Pro's and a PC, no Xbox. I'm just not here to oversell an event because I'm likely to buy their product.
The event was missing anything from their launch studio for PS4 (Sucker Punch).
It was missing anything from their Tier 1, critically acclaimed studio (Naughty Dog).
There was nothing from SSM or Quantic Dreams either.
There was nothing like The Order 1886
The PS4 event was a great event. The PS5 was decent but that's all. PS4 event opened and showed you exactly what was now possible with the Killzone demo and the SS presentation. The equivalent of the Driveclub reveal was a shaky GT7, in which we still don't know a launch date or if dynamic weather will be there. You saw David Cage with Beyond, Blow with Witness and MM with Dreams for the diversity and wonder. You had Deep Down and Watch Dogs to excite about pushing new boundaries (though in hindsight, both failed at that).
I actually liked LL more than UC4, but the Miles Morales unveil was underwhelming. There was what, 15 seconds of actual in game playtime during that reveal. I think it was 90 seconds long, and the first 45 were intro and cinematic. Then it looked just like Spiderman, maybe a bit sharper on the 4K video's. Demon's Souls looks fantastic graphically but what about all this 're-imagining' we've been hearing from Bluepoint? Is it faithfully remastered or not etc. There were a few character models and what looked like a boss cutaway at the end.
Sackboy seems to exist......just because. LBP3 was poor and stale and I actually don't mind the entire series. I was not impressed when Hub was cancelled for instance.
R&C isn't my cup of tea, but sort of led the bundle of titles aimed at that age group like astro's playroom, Sackboy etc. that are aimed at and was visually impressive. I believe the remake did good numbers but it wasn't 'mindblowing'. And then we get the tier 1 franchise at the end. HZD was always pretty and HFW looks to follow that trend, but noone said the problems with that title were the graphics. It was the clunky gameplay, the side quest cutaways straight from oblivion and skyrim, the ridiculous and stupid A.I. of the humans etc. We saw breathing underwater, did we see flying mounts though? Did we see a larger array of rideable mounts than the first game?
I get everyone is excited for the new generation coming in, but Sony don't need a crutch from fans. It was a middling event. And this is from someone who actually liked Contrast on the PS4 at release so don't think I'm discounting the indies. There just wasn't enough excitement there. Titles like Volcano High, Bugsnax etc. shouldn't have been anywhere near this. Destruction AllStars looked like f2p - Returnal was interesting. They should have done less titles with more 'reveal'. And then they close the event with one of the ugliest consoles ever made.......
And yes, Sony may have another showcase later down the line that is better than this event. Or at least I'm hoping for that.
Microsofts 3rd party event underwhelmed
Sony's 1st party event underwhelmed
That's where we are.
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Sony put on a very solid show the other day, although that console was a big miss in terms of size and design compared to the Series X, but MS is poised to put on an absolutely spectacular show in July.
I don't really think they're feeling the pressure, I have to assume that they're feeling pretty great after that show.
I don't really think they're feeling the pressure, I have to assume that they're feeling pretty great after that show.
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TalentedMrJ
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The internet gaming community has a short term, what have you done for lately mentality. Sony will be the toast of the town until MS finally shows something. Momentum shifts. Remember when all eyes were on XSex after the hardware and spec reveal?
SuperLupeRap
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I hear you, MS has at least done a better job in communicating about the console but we're mid June and still haven't see the heavy hitters. We better get something early July and not towards the end of the month.
As for Sony, they made us wait this long just for that...? Come on not cool at all. Very disappointing.
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Rippa
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Don't think for a second that Sony, just like Microsoft, doesn't have more to show for their system. You'd be only fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
The internet was up in arms with Microsoft's 3rd party showing. Completely unimpressed and equally disappointing if not worse.
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SuperLupeRap
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The games Microsoft has already shown are more impressive and they have not even had their conference yet.
That Hellblade 2 trailer alone is better than anything Sony showed during the entire show and that wasn't even gameplay.
SuperLupeRap
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That 3rd party show was disappointing but at least we know it wasn't their main reveal and was in that terrible Inside Xbox format.
The PlayStation show on Thursday was the PS5's big reveal that was supposed to blow us away and it just felt like a mid gen E3 show, if not worse.
Of course they both have more up their sleeve but Sony put their best foot forward on Thursday and it was just meh.
TalentedMrJ
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The original wasn't all that.
Combat was above average but the weird puzzles completely turned me off.
Or maybe I just suck at puzzles
Coulomb_Barrier
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Games that look like this have something to do with the pressure MS is under:
In-engine graphics, not CGI.
In-engine graphics, not CGI.
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SuperLupeRap
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Fair enough. I don't think the puzzles were amazing either and some of them were hard AF.
However I think it had great production values and the combat was good enough for the length of the game. I think a 2X bigger AAA Hellblade 2 that looks anything close to the trailer, graphics + art style wise, would be absolutely crazy.
TalentedMrJ
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Horizon 2 LOOKED fantastic but playing felt like every other open world game this gen
Bunch of icons, climbing things to unlock the map, collectibles
Can someone explain to me why Spiderman doesn't know his way around NY and I need to unlock the map? That and the constant interruptions to the gameplay killed it for me. In combat and webslinging, the game was awesome. Everything else? Not so much. Hopefully the expansion can tighten things up.
Infamous Second Son is a perfect example of open world done right. Minimal, fun, and to the point. One of my favorite games this gen.
Bunch of icons, climbing things to unlock the map, collectibles
Can someone explain to me why Spiderman doesn't know his way around NY and I need to unlock the map? That and the constant interruptions to the gameplay killed it for me. In combat and webslinging, the game was awesome. Everything else? Not so much. Hopefully the expansion can tighten things up.
Infamous Second Son is a perfect example of open world done right. Minimal, fun, and to the point. One of my favorite games this gen.
REE Machine
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To me this is 343's last shot, either let Halo die or give it someone else. Personlly it should have ended at 3 and if you wanted to keep going, do same universe different characters thing galaxies away with small refernces of what happened in the first 3 games leaking over and thats it.
REE Machine
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The games Microsoft has already shown are more impressive and they have not even had their conference yet.
ToadMan
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Well I've done all those things - perhaps you shouldn't play so many games and try doing some real world things instead.
Either way, the clue is in the name - Flight Simulator.
This was a sim before the trash passing as sims these days. If you're not using a flight yoke, you aren't gonna be able to use it. If you don't know the jargon, the principles of flight and have no interest in those things, this is a waste of your time and money. This is a PC sim used by plane spotters, wannabe pilots and some frustrated Air Traffic Controllers.
This isn't a "game" and hyping it like one on a console is a sign of desperation - not sure who is desperate though... If it's MS desperate for content and they put this on xbox, they are really in trouble.
So much Salt. Lol. I think you are the desperate person here.
Flight simulator showed BY FAR the best ingame gameplay EVER.
It's truly the definition of "next generation". As maybe stated earlier in the available information, you can alter the weather while in game. In that, the engine can switch to "real-time weather" (which uses Live data for the entire planet) and the players preference in an instant, while flying or on the runway. For example you take off from Beijing to Australia. The weather may be a bit calm as you lift off but you may prefer to fly through a thunderstorm. Simply press a button (mini menu tab), adjust the cloud layers (there's many) and it'll generate everything. Rain, frost at higher elevation, snow, turbulent winds, even lighting which reflects not only from the outside of the aircraft but inside the cabin.
In one instance, I tried to go through a thunderstorm with a dual turbo prob. Got up to about 21k feet in an attempt to fly over it. The entire plane was shaking nearing the crest (top). It was tough to control with the rapid changes in wind dynamics. The windshield then started to frost up/ice over. I couldn't see a thing. This was a shock to me because i did not expect this level of realism. I then switched to external view. Ice actually accumulates where it should on the planes; flaps, etc. The plane eventually lost manual control and went into a spiral. I thought that was it. Warning sounds beemed loudly through the cabin. Went back to interior view and "zoomed" in to the cockpit controls to see if i could find anything temperature related. This was a challenge as the plane was going down through the storm clouds. There, at the left side panel near the flight stick there were temperature controls (anti-icing). Each for windshield defrost, cabin heat, exterior, etc. I flicked those switches fast as i could. Things started to defrost a bit as i could almost pull out and adjust axis from the descent. But it was too late. The speed of my descent through the storm really didn't thaw the wings in time. It was a ride from hell. Into the sea i went. Next i'm going to try a flight around the Bermuda Triangle.
CatLady
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Exactly. With the exception of Horizon I much preferred the games in the Xbox 3rd party and Indie show to the 1st party kids games and unappealing Indies Sony showed. Xbox hasn't even had their 1st party main event and they're still ahead for me.
ToadMan
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Said no one ever lol
There's no need to tell me man - I've spent a lot of hours in various flight sims and real aircraft.... I know exactly what Flight Sim is - that's why it's not a console game.
Maybe if MS bring Excel to xsex you can call, that a game too lol
SirTerry-T
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That's harsh, their Sonic kart racers were great games and they have a stirling track record in helping out with conversion work. Lot of talented people in that studio.
Vawn
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Um Naughty Dog is releasing a 96 Metacritic game this week.
Sucker Punch is releasing a huge AAA new IP next month.
You're welcome to play both of those on PS5.
You were honestly expecting new games from them to be announced before those games even release? I think your expectations are out of whack.
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MaulerX
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The only thing that made people turn heads from the PS5 event was when they looked up to see that HUGE console.
But seriously, we haven't seen anything mind blowing from either side yet. Hopefully MS delivers in July.
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Vawn
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They should have called Halo 4 - Halo Andromeda.
ToadMan
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Can we see some gameplay now please?
Major_Key
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Like you, I hope so...
MaulerX
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Just 2 gameplay reveal of this 2 games and MS already did show more impressive that entire PS5 event.
And Hellblade 2 will drastically step up in terms of franchise/ambition. So yeah Hellblade 2 will become a killer app.
If MS shows anything remotely close to that Hellblade 2 trailer in actual Gameplay then not only will heads turn, they would be liable to fall off.
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