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The Sequel Trilogy Remains Canon - Daisy Ridley returning as Rey in a new Star Wars movie
- Thread starter ManaByte
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ManaByte
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A New Hope: $775M
Empire: $549M
Jedi: $475M
Whoever made that meme image is an idiot who is so stupid they shouldn’t be allowed out in public.
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FunkMiller
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Problem is, most fuckers who have hated all this new Star Wars will still go and see it, just to hate on that too. And Disney still make all the money.
Stop. Watching. This. Shit.
If you want them to stop making it. There are endless people online whining about how bad Star Wars is now… but they’re still all subscribed to Disney Plus.
Stop. Watching. This. Shit.
If you want them to stop making it. There are endless people online whining about how bad Star Wars is now… but they’re still all subscribed to Disney Plus.
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Deleted member 1159
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I felt obligated to finish out the ST and laughed my way through RoS, but yeah no more for me. I’m cool with just finishing Mando and Andor, then just ignoring anything else that comes after unless someone trustworthy tells me to check it out
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
And this, this! Is what I dont get about any of what it going on in todays reality, from Dylan mulvaney selling sports bras to women and drag in schools
What in the fuck is actual is going on? It doesnt make sense, any idiot can tell you it doesnt sell.
ManaByte
Member
I guess Empire and Jedi didn’t sell either because each made less than ANH and Jedi made less than Empire. But the people who make images like that are too stupid to know that or they deliberately ignore it for reasons. The prequels were the same (2 made half of what 1 did, 3 made less than 1 but more than 2 due to being the LAST STAR WARS EVER).
Also TFA made as much as it did because it was 1. The sequel to ROTJ being released after 32 years and 2. The first new Star Wars movie in 10 years. No other Star Wars movie would ever have those conditions.
Batiman
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Chiggs
Gold Member
You realize there are other franchises outside of the Original Trilogy, right? Ones that improve, even!
Edit: But since we're at near punitive terms here, and you're tossing insults around like a butthurt baby...aren't those numbers you provided a bit inflated by Special Edition re-releases, especially for A New Hope? We both know the answer to that.
Here's a more reasonable comparison which looks at the OT's initial theatrical release (using Domestic only, since WW was not tracked as well back in the 70s and 80s and some of the WW totals floating out there are really just best guess estimates with mixed grosses due to re-releases):
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchise/fr3125251845/
And here are the Prequel Trilogy (PT) movies for comparison's sake (this time with WW since tracking was more accurate). There's a bit of re-release stuff, unfortunately...but not to the same extent as the OT re-releases.
Notice the 3rd installment bounce back? None to be found with the Disney Trilogy, obviously. Just eastbound and down. A damaged brand in need of extensive repairs.
Want more proof Disney Star Wars is damaged? Look at the two "A Star Wars Story" movies:
Guess you were too stupid or lazy to understand the OT's original box office performance, didn't even bother to look at the PT, and instead lumped in a bunch of Special Edition re-releases as you strained to make a point which grossly favored A New Hope. And if it wasn't stupidity, perhaps it was you being disingenuous? You know, the exact same thing you alluded to in your post?
Uh, The Phantom Menace? Again, back to my point about stupid and lazy.
Anyway, I eagerly anticipate your response...especially as it pertains to the "3rd movie bounce back" that I illustrated with both the OT and PT, which did not happen with the Disney Trilogy. I'd also love your insight on the disastrous performance of Solo, and how a new Rey Trilogy is going to make everyone who lost interest after The Last Jedi come roaring back to the theater.
Until then, Manabyte....
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chromhound
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Lucky you
ManaByte
Member
Mando is ending with a movie though.
Just how firm are these new movie announcements? The past few years have seen these pseudo-confirmed announcements of new Star Wars movies that then become vaporware. Rian Johnson was supposed to have a trilogy, then it was cancelled. There was a Rogue Squadron movie planned, then cancelled. At this point I'd say it's more probable than not that the movies announced today will see the same fate, you won't hear about them for two years and then in an interview someone will quietly say Lucasfilm has "gone in a different direction".
ThatStupidLion
Member
Can confirm my wife and kids who binged through eps 1-9 for the first time this past winter dont give a crap about anyone in the ST other than bb8.
They tried turning on rogue one recently because they thirsted for more star wars, but all three were bored within the first 15 min And turned it off.
This ip holds power still for sure vader, yoda, chewie boba fett, droids, lightsabers, stormtroopers etc. kids eat that up, but the futures trajectory is just trending down. Nothing new is getting the kids invested. its still the old characters and lore
They tried turning on rogue one recently because they thirsted for more star wars, but all three were bored within the first 15 min And turned it off.
This ip holds power still for sure vader, yoda, chewie boba fett, droids, lightsabers, stormtroopers etc. kids eat that up, but the futures trajectory is just trending down. Nothing new is getting the kids invested. its still the old characters and lore
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I’ll watch a Mando movie then. Pretty done with ST stuff. If they somehow try to shoehorn it all together I’ll begrudgingly watch, because I at least enjoy Mando.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Agreed, and it's so readily apparent to anyone with half a functioning brain. The new stuff just isn't sticking.
The precipitous drop from The Force Awakens to Rise of Skywalker is so stark that only a true moron couldn't see it for what it was. And if that trend wasn't enough, then the even more precipitous drop from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story to Solo: A Star Wars Story should be like 100 fire alarms going off at once for Disney. Seems like it was to Bob Iger, who froze the whole operation, but it's going to take one sure-fire hit after another to reinvigorate the fanbase.
And they plan to accomplish this with...more Rey?
ThatStupidLion
Member
My guess is that they invested in her for the long run already. She didnt start out as hot as they hoped, not a dumpster fire (to some) either, so theyre gonna give it another attempt since its too risky and expensive to start from scratch. If she doesnt catch on theyll have new jedi characters established under her wing already to use as a jumping off point…and transition her to a lesser support role or *gasp* Dark Rey and turn heel
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Unknown Soldier
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Rogue One was basically the only good movie of the Disney era so I'm not sure what your wife and kids were unhappy about there
They should give everything to Tony Gilroy, who actually knows how to write characters. He should lead Star Wars from here on out.
Andor was the best thing Star Wars has ever had. It was Sci-Fi within the universe that made a lot of sense, it felt grounded and real, which is a great direction for SW to take. I think the ham and camp were ok for the 80s and 2000s, but they just don't work in the world today, or need better balance. The latest Mando ep shows how bad this can get.
Andor was the best thing Star Wars has ever had. It was Sci-Fi within the universe that made a lot of sense, it felt grounded and real, which is a great direction for SW to take. I think the ham and camp were ok for the 80s and 2000s, but they just don't work in the world today, or need better balance. The latest Mando ep shows how bad this can get.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Hey, it's good for Ridley, who, if I recall, has been basically soft blacklisted from finding roles because she's been pigeon holed as "that chick from the new Star Wars movies," which I mean....this won't help, but work is work.
It's good for Nerdrotic and Yellowflash and that entire dark corner of YouTube rage bait NEWS COMMENTATORS or what the fuck ever, who monetize as much nerd salt as they can mine whilst somehow skating by on content that is, wholesale, reading other people's lame articles and turning red faced and shouting for ten minutes, but I mean, it's an ecosystem, I guess.
It's good for Nerdrotic and Yellowflash and that entire dark corner of YouTube rage bait NEWS COMMENTATORS or what the fuck ever, who monetize as much nerd salt as they can mine whilst somehow skating by on content that is, wholesale, reading other people's lame articles and turning red faced and shouting for ten minutes, but I mean, it's an ecosystem, I guess.
Doczu
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Mando season 3 took a nose dive, it became "popular star, the cameo" and "side characters get the spotlight". I stopped after ep 3.
Andor is great, i hope they won't fuck up season 2.
And i'm getting tired of Filoni making all the series "my OC characters cameo's: the show(s)"...
ThatStupidLion
Member
I agree - told em that it was good and we should watch. The characters didnt interest them.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
That's utter BS. Ridley was the only good thing about the ST. The morons that wrote those godawful movies should be the ones blacklisted.
That's Marvel level shitfuckery right there.
Doczu
Member
Rebels already did that in the ending
edit: to be specific not the ST, but theyy allowed time travel and alternate timelines, so that door is open
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Sybrix
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I'm watching a reaction video on the Ahsoka trailer.
As someone whos never watched any of the animated SW shows i have no idea about the EU, but there seems to be this 'world between worlds' where time travel exists, so id be amazed if this doesnt come into this new trilogy.
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Doczu
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I am not getting on the Hype Train regarding Ahsoka, but i am kinda optimistic. Live action sequel to Rebels with Thrawn. Man, this can be good
Werewolf Jones
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She needed the work.
Cyberpunkd
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In a shitty animation that is the sequel to another shitty animation? I got curious so I went to check Rebels - is Disney hiring schoolchildren to animate their shows? How can this shit pass quality check?
Cyberpunkd
Member
She got an Oscar I think for movie that was much closer to European way of writing about women’s rights than the woke US kind.
AREYOUOKAY?
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RJMacready73
Banned
I don't care whose in it as long as it's got the writing quality of Andor and not the quality of Mandalorian
Doczu
Member
They tried to cut some corners in the first season and part of the second one, but i it got beter in visual quality.
Still, i love the "oil painting" finish the scenery had, made some frames really kino.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
That's what I kinda said said earlier about giving Tony Gilroy more movies; Andor was certainly a step up.
newtypepilot
Member
let's double down on the mary sue protagonist that no one likes. That'll surely work!!
Sybrix
Member
I mean they all made over $1bn each so it seems to work for Disney & we know this new trilogy will make another $1bn+ each.
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Liamario
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It was a documentary, was it not. She directed 2 episodes of Ms. Marvel. There is no evidence to suggest that she's capable of directing a movie in one the biggest movie franchises of all time.
BlackTron
Member
The last Star Wars I went to see in the theater was Rogue One and I use my brother in law's Disney+ account. He has kids running around so he's gonna have it no matter what. (He gets my Nintendo family plan, and yes, I have the better half of the deal).
I feel good about supporting Rogue One but pretty much want to send Disney no money ever again LOL. I have to admit. I feel guilty even padding the streaming numbers even though I'm not paying.
Doczu
Member
Yeah i would drop my D+ subscription if it wasn't for my kids. Too much great content for the youngest from the times when Disney were true kings
BlackTron
Member
They have some good newish cartoons too, for example my niece loves the Mickey Mouse shorts from about 10 years ago. Disney+ is genuinely useful for streaming all this small random kids stuff. Sure I have all the classics already but it's also a better way to start the Lion King for a kid than using a hard drive/laptop/media server/Plex/whatever. A TV with a remote that has a Disney+ button!!! In a family setting, Disney wins vs. your OP media-dense laptop.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Can it be really worse than J.J. Abrams?
Billbofet
Member
This is kinda what Disney did with Eternals and it sucked. Get the John Wick director already!!! Could you imagine a lightsaber fight choreographed by that team!!
Liamario
Banned
JJ Abrams is a good director. It's his writing ability that's unreliable.
Madflavor
Member
It's honestly shocking to me that so many Star Wars fans are just okay with the fact that the current regime completely tarnished the legacy of the OT characters, and created a character that hijacked Luke Skywalker's story. Even people who hate that fact have said "Well her writing in the ST was bad, but I'm glad Daisy is back to get another chance." Like really, we're just fine with Disney/LF dry fucking your childhood heroes, as long as you get more Star Wars?
Maybe I'm just the type of person that isn't easily forgiving.
Maybe I'm just the type of person that isn't easily forgiving.