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The Sequel Trilogy Remains Canon - Daisy Ridley returning as Rey in a new Star Wars movie

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Luke Skywalker, failure as a Jedi Master, wants to murder his nephew in his sleep, gets all his students killed and endangers the galaxy.

Rey Palpatine will do it properly.
Sir, sir, excuse me, sir!
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Oh how fucking sad it is if they need to recycle old EU lore after their "original" content was shallow at best.
They just steal the ideas and retcon them into their inferior writings and works. Then slap the Disney canon badge on it.
 

Kraz

Banned
Ya she’s really pretty but not Megan Fox type hot. I do think it’s somewhat on purpose. Fits in with most SW characters. I always thought Hayden was too good looking to be Anakin. Luke was never the most attractive man or greatest actor but I feel he was perfect looking back.

I think Oscar Isaac did a perfect job with his role. I feel like he even dumbed down his acting skills to get that campy/cheesy dialogue that fits perfect with the franchise. He didn’t turn out as the greatest character in the end but I liked what he did with the role. He embraced that over the top SW dialogue.
It was her lovely shoulders/collar that stood out for me in TFA. The costume accentuated. It was like an indication she would be carrying the franchise going forward.

I started rewatching the Sequels and am developing a greater appreciation for Poe Dameron.
 

Doczu

Member
They just steal the ideas and retcon them into their inferior writings and works. Then slap the Disney canon badge on it.
I fear how they will (further) handle Thrawn.
I loved him in Rebels, but they blatantly used the term "heir of the Empire" in Ahsoka's trailer. Like, come on, you are just pissing in our open mouths right now.

That said: any idea when in the timeline will thenseries take place?
 

Fbh

Member
Disney stuff is becoming easier and easier to ignore.
I have to admit it's a bit sad no longer having any big movie franchise to look forward to, but at least there's still some interesting fantasy/sci fi book series to follow.


My whole deal is that if the Sequel Trilogy just plain sucked, then no big deal I'll just move on and forget. It's the fact that it tarnished the OT that made me so upset. I'm just gonna drop a quote from Reddit that was posted after the Rey movie was announced, because it sums up a lot of people's feelings much better than I can:

"They also set the precedent that decades of story building, character building, and world building can be undone whenever they want to make more money. The sequel trilogy informed us that our original heroes from the first six movies DID NOT actually defeat the empire and it felt like such a kick in the face. We grew up with six movies of varying quality, but with a unified message and goal: defeat the Sith, defeat the Empire, restore hope.

We quickly find out that instead:

  • Luke did not succeed in returning the Jedi, nor did he spend his life as a beacon of hope for the galaxy.
  • Leia did not succeed in building a principled government to replace the fascist empire.
  • Han did not successfully put his smuggling past behind him enough to become a leader or a father.
  • Anakin/Vader did not actually destroy Palpatine.
They undid the accomplishments of the PT/OT heroes so that they could reuse the core story structure but with a new cast."

Not only that, but IMO it makes all these post EP6 pre EP7 content inherently unexciting because we know the crap it's all leading up to.

All this Mandalorian timeline, the whole "new republic stuff", everything related to the Jedi., etc. Everything post Ep6 is basically just leading up to depressed Luke drinking green milk, the new Republic being blown up by essentially a new death star because JJ is incapable to write something original, a new group of heroes no one gives a shit about, stuff like: "sigh, somehow .... Palpatine has returned" and "I'm all the sith....and I'm all the Jedi!!!!", daggers that looks like the wreckage of the Death Star, etc.

At this point the only thing that could get me remotely excited about Star Wars is a whole new story taking place hundreds of years before or after the OT. And even then Disney will probably just fuck it up.
 
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Doczu

Member
Not only that, but IMO it makes all these post EP6 pre EP7 content inherently unexciting because we know the crap it's all leading up to.
So much this. Mandalorian is a great example pointed out by you. I geniunely was excited like a kid when Luke showed up at the end of S2. The whole sequence was perfect. It was THE Luke Skywalker. The hero of the Republic, powerful Jedi general who destroyed the Death Star, took part in countless battles and campaigns of the civil war. He was such a badass that Moff Gideon shat his pants when he saw a single X-Wing coming to the rescue. Even the dodgy deepfake didn't matter.

And afterwards i got TLJ flashbacks...
Never forget Mark tried to warn us...
 
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Ulysses 31

Member
Disney stuff is becoming easier and easier to ignore.
I have to admit it's a bit sad no longer having any big movie franchise to look forward to, but at least there's still some interesting fantasy/sci fi book series to follow.




Not only that, but IMO it makes all these post EP6 pre EP7 content inherently unexciting because we know the crap it's all leading up to.

All this Mandalorian timeline, the whole "new republic stuff", everything related to the Jedi., etc. Everything post Ep6 is basically just leading up to depressed Luke drinking green milk, the new Republic being blown up by essentially a new death star because JJ is incapable to write something original, a new group of heroes no one gives a shit about, stuff like: "sigh, somehow .... Palpatine has returned" and "I'm all the sith....and I'm all the Jedi!!!!", daggers that looks like the wreckage of the Death Star, etc.

At this point the only thing that could get me remotely excited about Star Wars is a whole new story taking place hundreds of years before or after the OT. And even then Disney will probably just fuck it up.
And we never got a Luke, Han & Leia together moment again either.
 
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Doczu

Member
And we never got a Luke, Han & Leia together moment again either.
This fucking hurts. Who in their right mind thought it's a great idea to off them one by one and not give us a single scene together.
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My head canon is that they dodn't want to kill off Leia, cause girl power etc, but they bet on the wrong horse and Carrie's death made them scramble for a solution.
 
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Fbh

Member
So much this. Mandalorian is a great example pointed out by you. I geniunely was excited like a kid when Luke showed up at the end of S2. The whole sequence was perfect. It was THE Luke Skywalker. The hero of the Republic, powerful Jedi general who destroyed the Death Star, took part in countless battles and campaigns of the civil war. He was such a badass that Moff Gideon shat his pants when he saw a single X-Wing coming to the rescue. Even the dodgy deepfake didn't matter.

And afterwards i got TLJ flashbacks...
Never forget Mark tried to warn us...

Exactly, imagine how more exciting the ending of Mando S2 would have been without the added knowledge of what happens in the sequels.
 

Fbh

Member
But then the sequels would happen anywhere and it would be even more crushing, lol.

lol yeah I guess. Though if they had released Mandalorian first there's a chance they'd have let Favreau/Filoni make the new trilogy, and while that wouldn't have guaranteed that it was going to be good, it would probably have been better than the shit we got.
 

Doom85

Member
This fucking hurts. Who in their right mind thought it's a great idea to off them one by one and not give us a single scene together.
Sad America GIF


My head canon is that they dodn't want to kill off Leia, cause girl power etc, but they bet on the wrong horse and Carrie's death made them scramble for a solution.

Han was going to die in 7 regardless of what anyone said. Harrison has wanted him dead since 6, only getting veto’d by Lucas because “dead Han doesn’t sell toys”. I imagine they had to spend a pretty penny to get his cameo in 9. He’s made it clear he doesn’t hold the role in regard the way he does Indiana Jones or Deckard.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Star Wars "canon" for me will always be the Expanded Universe basically everything before Disney reset the canon.

All this new stuff for me is just Elseworlds and Legends so I dont really care what they do.
I like to think that the expanded universe of old is an alternate universe somewhere that can be accessed in the World Between Worlds but then I heard that the BWB doesn't work that way, sadly.
 

NickFire

Member
I’m glad they aren’t abandoning the sequel trilogy. Wouldn’t feel right to pretend they didn’t happen IMO.
 

L*][*N*K

Banned
I feel like some people watched two magical movies in the 1980s called Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, and they hated EVERYTHING since, and they make it very clear how anyone who even dares to enjoy anything in the world is a moron.
 

BlackTron

Member
Han was going to die in 7 regardless of what anyone said. Harrison has wanted him dead since 6, only getting veto’d by Lucas because “dead Han doesn’t sell toys”. I imagine they had to spend a pretty penny to get his cameo in 9. He’s made it clear he doesn’t hold the role in regard the way he does Indiana Jones or Deckard.

I knew that was probably going to happen just because of Harrison Ford, but the way he went out was lame (like everything else in the ST except BB8). They had one miracle chance of Ford being in the right mood and Fisher still being alive to have all 3 together, and they blew it. Saving Luke to bait us into The Last Movie I Paid For is an amazing way to use up the opportunity of a lifetime.
 

GMCamaro

Member
I honestly was never a big fan of Star Wars, but I liked Return of the Jedi the best.

Of course the best movie in all of Star Wars is Spaceballs, and there’s no topping that.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
Rey isn’t the problem, the writing is the problem. Though I have a feeling if these next round of movies fail then Kathleen is out.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Rey isn’t the problem, the writing is the problem. Though I have a feeling if these next round of movies fail then Kathleen is out.
The only way they would get rid of her is if her replacement is a non-white and/or non-male, preferably both.
 
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Doczu

Member
Han was going to die in 7 regardless of what anyone said. Harrison has wanted him dead since 6, only getting veto’d by Lucas because “dead Han doesn’t sell toys”. I imagine they had to spend a pretty penny to get his cameo in 9. He’s made it clear he doesn’t hold the role in regard the way he does Indiana Jones or Deckard.
Yeah, nothing new or surprising.

Still they could have made the fans happy and honor his request at the same time.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
It's not the Hollywood version of it though, I think she did a lot of pakistani films about women, which is a good thing. It's not like the American thing where you got some man-hating beast that hides behind inequality as an excuse.
Sorry to ask, but which Hollywood films are you referring to?
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
How many rounds of movies and TV shows does it take? Who are they, Microsoft/343?
They are a company that leaned hard into wokeness by lack of leadership that has board members that want results but need to save face at the same time. Reports are that Kathleen has been in many heated talks with her superiors.
She is a high profile public figure. They wont just outright fire her. It will be a planned .. lower her presence for a year then she resigns or "leaves" .
 

Kraz

Banned
Finished rewatching The Last Jedi. Not quite as dismal in tone as TFA. There is something really sinister in these movies about the portrayal of The First Order threat and the civilization in which it flourishes. It's a good lesson to place in for viewers to take away in challenging Pollyanna blinders. And with Poe/Holdo that not all situational info may be accessible, making it important not to be rash in judgements with more informed allies who disagree, or overreact to responses to that disagreement.

That scene with Snoke/Rey/Kylo is one of the best in the entire Star Wars series cinematically. Raw, and not overly floushished. Embattled. Good portrayal of clairvoyance to start it.

It'll be interesting to see how they adapt the things Rey experienced and learned into the new series.
 

BlackTron

Member
board members that want results but need to save face at the same time.
This is pretty much it in a nutshell. I think that to save face, they don't appreciate the damage to their own brand. If it was my money, I'd want course-correction immediately. Whether it was my error or not.
 
The sequel trilogy was awful. Easily the worst Star Wars has ever been. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the prequel trilogy was far superior to the nonsensical sequel trilogy.

Disney should just scrap this idea and move onto to something completely different. Not many people are desperate to see more Ray, Poe or any other of those characters shat out of this Disney era.
It's really impressive when Disney can make a worse trilogy than the SW prequels. How embarrassing.
 

John Marston

GAF's very own treasure goblin
Absolutely no chance in hell I'll pay to see this after the Sequel Trilogy, nothing against Daisy Ridley.

If they completely change direction and make a new timeline, I may be interested.
The Sequel Trilogy should have been set a couple hundred years in the future. Scrap everything, start from scratch. Sure get some fan service with some statues of previous characters or whatever. Or some endearing flashbacks that don't humiliate and shit on Luke, Han & Leia.

But most importantly get a collective vision connecting all 3 movies into a unified logical product.
 

Doczu

Member
Absolutely no chance in hell I'll pay to see this after the Sequel Trilogy, nothing against Daisy Ridley.

If they completely change direction and make a new timeline, I may be interested.
Well Carrie is dead and SW is dead for Ford, so that's gonna be a sad timeline
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Rey trains him in the Lego Christmas Special which is canon I believe. Doubt that Boyega wants to come back though.

They truly did his character dirty. Starting with Ryan Johnson... And JJ should have KEPT his Force sensitivity scene in the final movie. Dumbass!
 

dan76

Member
I feel that everything after 1983 is more or less crap fan fiction. Even they guy who created the thing didn't understand why it was so successful. I mean, no one watches The Empire Strikes Back and thinks that Darth Vader built C-3PO do they? Those first 3 films were special and were products of their time. Everything else is all made up after the fact and crammed in. They are just films, none of it is real! The fact that The Crystal Skull sucks doesn't mean that Raiders is no longer a great movie.

It will be interesting to see how this crashes. Will it be shit in a prequel way, or a sequel way?
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I don't know what's going through their heads but they really insist on people sticking with the sequel trilogy and its characters.

I really want a movie that explores a whole new era. Something like the Old Republic or a hundred or a couple of hundred years in the future from the sequel trilogy with new characters and especially new enemies.
 
I don't know what's going through their heads but they really insist on people sticking with the sequel trilogy and its characters.

I really want a movie that explores a whole new era. Something like the Old Republic or a hundred or a couple of hundred years in the future from the sequel trilogy with new characters and especially new enemies.
You have to put your head into an executives mind. What is the most save course? Yeah, you called it...

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