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The UFC 158 |OT| - Pick a Side Homie! or: I apologize for this Official Thread

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dream

dream

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Instro said:
Good point I'm surprised though because he still seems to have a lot of his explosion which is typically something that goes away after a big knee surgery.
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Does he though? Nick has the TDD of a lame donkey, but he was stopping a ton of Rush's shots tonight.
 
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Hunter S.

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Panzon said:
C'mon at some point your pride has to kick in and you have to care. GSP knows exactly what the fans have been whispering about him for a while now
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Fans, hilarious. Fans on GAF does not mean shit. Whine, whine, whine because this is a fantasy not a reality for you. If GSP does not meet expectations, then the sport is a joke. Go watch your WWE fantasy and stop bitching.
 
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charsace

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zzzSP doesn't give a fuck about finishing. That Sera shit is still in his head. Sera was the worst thing to happen to the WW division. GSP is content to grind out wins.
 
dream

dream

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Noirulus said:
I'm sure you know him so well.
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Good point. I actually don't know him at all because he hired a communications team to manage his Twitter account. Luckily, he's admitted as much before:

"This is something that I've been doing since the beginning of my career," St-Pierre said. "I wore a suit at press conferences when all the other fighters were making fun of me. (They said), 'Oh, look at St-Pierre, he doesn't wear his sponsor.' I'm the one who first started doing this stuff, and I think the image and how you conduct yourself ... because the sponsor, the big companies in corporate America, they're not interested in sponsoring an athlete who is good in his sport but acts like an idiot outside of the Octagon. They want someone who performs well, of course, but acts like a gentleman outside of the Octagon.

"I understood that more than ten years ago. That's why I behave the way I do and I do things that I do. That's why I have a lot of sponsors. I do have a lot of sponsors and a lot of money because of this. It brings money to the table."
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Panzon

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alr1ght said:
He doesn't care. It's been the same song and dance for the last few years.
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I disagree but the fact of the matter is he needs to stop being so damned gun shy. Maybe he knows he his chin isn't all that or maybe Matt Serra really did ruin him mentally forever.

Screw you Serra!
 
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kirblar

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dream said:
Good point. I actually don't know him at all because he hired a communications team to manage his Twitter account. Luckily, he's admitted as much before:
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His unfiltered internal monologue has to be either one of the most boring things imaginable or a cauldron of repressed rage.
 
Carton

Carton

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dream said:
Does he though? Nick has the TDD of a lame donkey, but he was stopping a ton of Rush's shots tonight.
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It was interesting, but I think that was a product of GSP's gas tank; he was being pretty lazy with those shots and didn't persist if he had to really work for it and potentially burn himself further. The final takedown of the fight you could see the usual explosiveness he typically demonstrates. All that effort from trying to control a very mobile Diaz in the first 2 rounds seemed to have zapped him more than usual, and perhaps some of the emotions he was bringing into the fight.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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Panzon said:
I disagree but the fact of the matter is he needs to stop being so damned gun shy. Maybe he knows he his chin isn't all that or maybe Matt Serra really did ruin him mentally forever.

Screw you Serra!
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if ESPN gave a fuck about MMA, that woudl make for a pretty interesting 30 for 30.
 
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Panzon

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Hunter S Thompson said:
Fans, hilarious. Fans on GAF does not mean shit. Whine, whine, whine because this is a fantasy not a reality for you. If GSP does not meet expectations, then the sport is a joke. Go watch your WWE fantasy and stop bitching.
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I wasn't only talking about the fans on GAF...and I'm not whining. If I'm paying my money for all these events i wanna see some exciting fights, especially when it's champions fighting. I don't watch WWE so idk what you're talking about
 
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Jayhawk

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GSP seemed to use up his gas tank from repeatedly jumping from one side of Diaz to the other on the ground in the first few rounds to avoid being swept or submitted whenever Diaz grabbed a hold of his wrist. During his failed takedown attempts, he didn't even attempt to follow through with his legs on some of those attempts.
 
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Lion Heart

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Jmanunknown said:
He has to be cautious though if Hendricks comes out swinging wildly at gsp he's gonna get taken down fast.
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He'll get taken down fast if he plays it ultra defensively as well, its the same song and dance the last 8 fights or whatever the number is. Either do nothing and get GnP'd or take a shot at a knockout.
 
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Hunter S.

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Panzon said:
I wasn't only talking about the fans on GAF...and I'm not whining. If I'm paying my money for all these events i wanna see some exciting fights, especially when it's champions fighting. I don't watch WWE so idk what you're talking about
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The expectation that the champion gets a TKo every fight is not the norm and that thinking is is fairly one dimensional, stupid fighting. No one can really claim to do that for very long period, only Anderson. The expectations for KOs are whiny when the majority of champions do not do it all the time when facing such high level fighters every match. And if they do it is not for long. Reality check.
 
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Jmanunknown

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Lion Heart said:
He'll get taken down fast if he plays it ultra defensively as well, its the same song and dance the last 8 fights or whatever the number is. Either do nothing and get GnP'd or take a shot at a knockout.
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Thats his(Hendricks) game plan anyway he's basically the welterweight version of Dan Henderson.
 
Carton

Carton

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Jayhawk said:
During his failed takedown attempts, he didn't even attempt to follow through with his legs on some of those attempts.
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Yep, and he was putting a lot less effort into the shot itself. I felt he was going for some minimal effort takedowns with the hope they might pay off, but at worst to upset the rhythm of Diaz's standup. If he didn't get them, he wasn't prepared to persist and gas himself further. The grappling in the first two rounds was very energy demanding, and due to the emotional aspect, GSP was probably a little tighter with his grips than he might otherwise have been.
 
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Panzon

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Hunter S Thompson said:
The expectation that the champion gets a TKo every fight is not the norm and that thinking is is fairly one dimensional, stupid fighting. No one can really claim to do that for very long period, only Anderson. The expectations for KOs are whiny when the majority of champions do not do it all the time when facing such high level fighters every match. And if they do it is not for long. Reality check.
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I'm not expecting it every fight. It's been six straight fights now where he is clearly the better fighter and has had chances to finish but decides to play it safe. KOs are not the only way to finish a fight. Georges has a good enough ground game where he can at least attempt some subs too so reality check my ass
 
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x Power Pad Death Stomp x

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Huh. GSP and Wladimir Klitschko are almost the same guy. Both fight horribly boring fights against overmatched opponents who they should be finishing in front of sold out stadiums in other countries filled with fans who seem to love safety first fighters.
 
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Omega

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what a surprise! another GSP decision

lol @ theory fitghting a match with Hendricks

SPOILER: GSP wins by decision by laying on him for 24 minutes
 
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Zeliard

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GSP is gonna be sitting next to Hendricks, heh

Rory/Condit II needs to happen. Condit's coming off two official losses and Rory's on a streak, but Rory clearly wants to do it, and their first fight was fantastic.
 
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mr jones

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As someone who paid to watch, I was entertained. The fights leading up to the main event were pretty good, and that condit/hendricks fight was fantastic.

Say what you will about st. pierre, he's a very reliable, conservative fighter. If you can't handle his technical wrestling game, then you are going to lose. It's that simple. I REALLY want to see a hendricks / gsp fight, but I'm afraid that gsp will end up getting hendricks on the ground, take away hendricks' game plan, and BAM! You got another boring, fairly predictable fight.

And Silva vs. GSP? Its not going to happen, man. Sorry.
 
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Hex

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So is Hendrick's hand legit hurt or is it a cop out after he saw that he was not going to knock out Condit.
 
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iLLmAtlc

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I think it goes beyond Serra. Hell two of his best performances were after the Serra fight, in the Hughes and Serra rematches. He looked really good in the Fitch fight too.

The fight with Anderson should have happened in 2009, that was when it was most demanded and most exciting because both guys actually still beat guys thoroughly.
 
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Noirulus

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dream said:
Good point. I actually don't know him at all because he hired a communications team to manage his Twitter account. Luckily, he's admitted as much before:
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He carries himself professionally in order to put himself at the best possible financial advantage. So what? It's a bit of a stretch to say that he's not in the sport to entertain just because he dominates fights without finishing his opponent, and that's leaving aside the fact that entertainment is a very subjective matter of discussion.

He's definitely afraid of going in for full-blown KO-style strikes, but his fights have not been boring since the last time he finished an opponent. His technical showcase against Koscheck for example, was beautiful.

We'll see how GSP fares against Hendricks, who's got a good wrestling history as well as strong knockout potential.
 
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Officerrob

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Condit and Hendricks hit each other with huge shots and both look fine in the post fight presser. GSP got hit with a couple decent shots from Diaz, and his face is surprisingly marked-up
 
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