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The UFC 158 |OT| - Pick a Side Homie! or: I apologize for this Official Thread

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Heel

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Compare their faces and you can see that Nick won under the superior PRIDE rule set. GSP would have been yellow carded roughly 11 times and actually owe money to the Yakuza.
 

Heel

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Nick Diaz vs. a debuting Melvin Manhoef at 170

Let's show these GSP apologists what a real fucking scrap looks like.
 

Noirulus

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"I think I'm done, I've barely got any time to relax between all these fights."

10 minutes later

"I'm not done you know, those 5 rounds woke me up"

Oh Nick.
 

Norml

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"I think I'm done, I've barely got any time to relax between all these fights."

10 minutes later

"I'm not done you know, those 5 rounds woke me up"

Oh Nick.

He said his sleep time was messed up.Nick would have done better if was more aggressive.
 

Carton

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Nick is taking a very odd position regarding active ground fights in MMA. If you stand up the fighters quicker, it only encourages the person on the bottom to simply tie the guy on top up with a tight closed guard. An active ground fight requires not only intent by the person on top, but also for person on bottom to work for submissions, sweeps, to stand up, and/or strike. Too often we see the bottom guy close their ground game up with a tight closed guard then look for the ref to stand it up. Pride would punish guys on the bottom for this with yellow cards, the UFC rewards it with a stand up.
 

Hex

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Now he will go cry in a bi -polar fetal position knowing that he got completely handled no matter how much he tries to play it off. Then he looked like more of a jack ass than normal after the fight and probably put himself pretty damned close to the cutting line.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Lol, Dana isn't cutting Nick. Everyone reacting here will pay to see him get his ass kicked next fight.
 

Hex

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Nick is taking a very odd position regarding active ground fights in MMA. If you stand up the fighters quicker, it only encourages the person on the bottom to simply tie the guy on top up with a tight closed guard. An active ground fight requires not only intent by the person on top, but also for person on bottom to work for submissions, sweeps, to stand up, and/or strike. Too often we see the bottom guy close their ground game up with a tight closed guard then look for the ref to stand it up. Pride would punish guys on the bottom for this with yellow cards, the UFC rewards it with a stand up.

As much as I wanted GSP to actually finish a fight, he was aways active and working.
Diaz is is really looking pathetic and bitter, and I am not even big GSP fan.
 

Heel

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Nick is taking a very odd position regarding active ground fights in MMA. If you stand up the fighters quicker, it only encourages the person on the bottom to simply tie the guy on top up with a tight closed guard. An active ground fight requires not only intent by the person on top, but also for person on bottom to work for submissions, sweeps, to stand up, and/or strike. Too often we see the bottom guy close their ground game up with a tight closed guard then look for the ref to stand it up. Pride would punish guys on the bottom for this with yellow cards, the UFC rewards it with a stand up.

I dunno what you mean. His stance is if you take away elbows you're forced to posture up to punch with your fists, which allows the guy on the bottom to have room to escape or work a submission. Nick isn't asking for an opportunity to stall on the bottom.
 

Macattk15

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Nick is 5-5 in UFC. Can only beat up old man washed up BJ Penn.

Don't really see why he gets any top shots.

Why doesn't he go try boxing so I can see real boxers kick his ass if he wants to stand and fight everyone?
 

Carton

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I dunno what you mean. His stance is if you take away elbows you're forced to posture up to punch with your fists, which allows the guy on the bottom to have room to escape or work a submission. Nick isn't asking for an opportunity to stall on the bottom.

If i heard correctly, Diaz suggested there should be quicker stand ups. I feel such an approach would only perpetuate the problem of stalling on the ground, because a bottom guy can tie a guy up on top with a tight game to make it an inactive ground fight, and thus result in a stand up. Quicker stand ups will result in more inactive bottom fighters.
 

Heel

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If i heard correctly, Diaz suggested there should be quicker stand ups. I feel such an approach would only perpetuate the problem of stalling on the ground, because a bottom guy can tie a guy up on top with a tight game to make it an inactive ground fight, and thus result in a stand up. Quicker stand ups will result in more inactive bottom fighters.

A yellow card for stalling, top or bottom, isn't a simple warning. It's a percentage off your purse and the equivalent of a mixed martial cattle prod. Problem solved.
 
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