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[Deleted member 17706]

Looking forward to seeing benchmarks. I've got a fully spec'd 2019 MacBook Pro 16", so won't be upgrading for a while, but I might be interested in picking up a 13" model or even a MacBook Air for my wife. She's still rocking a 2013 model that's getting a bit long in the tooth.

 

[EviLore]

 

[SidViscous]

So when does the Apple store usually come back online after these things, am I wasting my time F5'ing now?

 

[Pagusas]

wowzers, if they pulled that off.... damn. No fan on the air, macbook pro just lapping Intel's best mobile chips over and over again. I'll be curious to see third part benches, but given apple doesnt really lie about their performance numbers, I'm pretty damn impressed they were able to pull this off so fast. I feel like the PC market just got put on notice.

 

[eddie4]

Soooooo 60fps on 4k amirite!

 

[Maiden Voyage]

So when does the Apple store usually come back online after these things, am I wasting my time F5'ing now?

Live now:

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Edit: Orders start the 17th.

 

[EviLore]

Yeah, this delivered.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

I can trade in my 2019 16" MacBook Pro i9 w/ 1tb of storage for $1,400. That seems like a bummer.

 

[eddie4]

This might be the first time I ever spend cash on an Apple product. ngl the pro looks good if the performance claims are legit. lol

I can trade in my 2019 16" MacBook Pro i9 w/ 1tb of storage for $1,400. That seems like a bummer.

Sell it privately for cash, forget trading in, you always lose out.

 

[nbcjr]

As I use windows on my MBP, I don't welcome this.

 

[Kazekage1981]

seems like apple is off to a great start, I wish they would make a Microsoft surface studio like desktop which a big 4k-6k screen and the ability to use apple pencil for drawing, sketching, editing photos.

Too bad big sur does not support touch.

 

[Hudo]

So the 16" MacBook Pros aren't going to be updated for now?

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Sell it privately for cash, forget trading in, you always lose out.

I'll probably keep it for another few years to be honest.

So the 16" MacBook Pros aren't going to be updated for now?

Correct.

 

[eddie4]

I hate the fact that the two systems are the same, but it's $200 for an additional 250GB of ssd. That seems like a bit of a rip.

 

[MrS]

to go 8gb or 16gb ram hmm

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I can trade in my 2019 16" MacBook Pro i9 w/ 1tb of storage for $1,400. That seems like a bummer.

You could definitely resell it for a much higher price than that.

They didn't announce new 16" Macbook Pros this time, though, did they?

 

[SidViscous]

Sweet, with student discount, got the Air for £898. Not having to worry about a fan or air-vents will make it ideal for coding/surfing in bed. Was tempted to get a Pro but by the time you've gone to 16GB ram and a decent HDD, it's just getting close to "gaming PC" prices. Surprised the Pro doesn't start at 16GB of ram to be honest.

 

[Pagusas]

to go 8gb or 16gb ram hmm

16. Dont even think about the 8.

 

[belmarduk]

I'd been hoping for a new MacBook 12 as my 2017 one kind of frizzed out a few months ago.. but the new Pro seems to good to pass up, so I ordered one. Really impressed by the new chip.... a mac you can game on? yes, please!

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Honestly I am not very much happy with the outcome:

The mac mini has been crippled: from 64gb ram (user upgradeable) to 16gb embedded in the cpu, no 10gbps ethernet, lost 2 of its 4 thunderbolt ports and only supports 2 displays now. It's essentially lost all the potential it had and is back to being just apple's cheapest offer.

 

[LordCBH]

Told you all people would be pleasantly surprised lol. We’ve had a couple developer transition kits here for a while now and they’ve been great.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Told you all people would be pleasantly surprised lol. We’ve had a couple developer transition kits here for a while now and they’ve been great.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, is the nda over?

 

[LordCBH]

Now that the cat is out of the bag, is the nda over?

hell if I know Lol ain’t the one primarily working on it lol. I just know it’s been a great machine and my thoughts that the future of performance would be great we’re definitely confirmed.

 

[p_xavier]

HDMI 2.0 on mac mini is not good for 4K HDR.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

HDMI 2.0 on mac mini is not good for 4K HDR.

Yeah, the Mini has been thoroughly bollocked back to being "our cheapest mac ever" and all the capabilities of the previous generation that enlarged it's potential roles have been clipped.

 

[Pagusas]

HDMI 2.0 on mac mini is not good for 4K HDR.

2.0 supports 4k HDR @60 at 4:2:2.

 

[MrS]

Alright went for 16gb mem and 250ssd. Coming around 26th Nov TYBG. Anybody else pick one up?

 

[TTOOLL]

I’m gonna wait for reviews but it seems they really delivered!! It’s a first gen product as I said before but it’s not scary at all. Form factor is the same so we know the quality.
I hope I can get one next July if I go to the USA as intended.

 

[p_xavier]

2.0 supports 4k HDR @60 at 4:2:2.

Yes it's bad.

 

[Cycom]

lol @ macbook "pro" capping at 16gb ram.

 

[TTOOLL]

lol @ macbook "pro" capping at 16gb ram.

Maybe that's the limit of the unified memory in the chip.

 

[SidViscous]

Maybe that's the limit of the unified memory in the chip.

Yup, the entire system being on the chip makes the tiers a bit harder to maintain. I'm pretty sure they removed the fan from the air just so the performance gets throttled and doesn't match the actively cooled more expensive Macbook pro variant, you are paying £300 for a touchbar otherwise.

None of the designers at work would touch a Macbook with less than 32GB of RAM, but I think it's safe to say these are aimed at consumers, and they'll update the higher end Pro and iMac systems next year with the work-horse variants.

 

[iconmaster]

These Apple events used to do a lot more for me. Now it feels like I've heard it all before. Two times, three times faster than what?

Ah well, Apple definitely has good processor tech.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Yup, the entire system being on the chip makes the tiers a bit harder to maintain. I'm pretty sure they removed the fan from the air just so the performance gets throttled and doesn't match the actively cooled more expensive Macbook pro variant, you are paying £300 for a touchbar otherwise.

None of the designers at work would touch a Macbook with less than 32GB of RAM, but I think it's safe to say these are aimed at consumers, and they'll update the higher end Pro and iMac systems next year with the work-horse variants.

Yeah, this new lineup feels very much like apple does i-devices: same chip, ancillary stuff to divide product tiers.

 

[Stilton Disco]

These are genuinely hugely impressive. If Apple can get their act together with gaming, I'd definitely be tempted with these over a PC.

As it is, I'm going to get my wife either one of these two, or an iPad Pro with a pencil and magic keyboard, for her birthday.

Bloody things are all much of a muchness price wise, with only about 300 quid separating the cheapest and costliest of them, so it will be very interesting to see the performance difference between them all now, sincw they're running the software with the same chips.

 

[Chittagong]

The new Air and Mini are

Preordered two Airs and a Mini.

Pro is a real loser, certainly the benefits don’t outweigh 300e + thickness + weight + fan difference to Air

Air vs Pro

 

[Dark Rider]

The two ports only is a bummer, the presentation was good but it is time to wait for the benchmarks and hand-on reviews before making any decisions.

 

[Endless Fluff]

Getting one as soon as I can afford (and also justify) it to replace my 13" MBP from 2016. My not even a year old 16" one is just too big to use in most cases. I only use it on a desk while still using my 13" most of the time.

This M1 will shit all over the dual core i5 in my 13" MBP. 20 hours of battery life is gonna be delicious.

 

[dottme]

At 6:45 here, the show BG3 on M1 and it’s quite impressive

Tech Talks - Videos - Apple Developer

developer.apple.com

 

[Rentahamster]

Specs look good. Sucks to be Intel. I eagerly await the benchmarks.

 

[eddie4]

I read somewhere that they were comparing the M1 in speed to the i3, this is why it was "so much faster." Who knows though, I doubt this will beat i7 or AMD performance chips. I'm gonna wait until benchmarks and comparisons come out.

 

[fran.fernandez]

Too good to be true?

can some one explain to me compatibility apps?

i don’t want to open maya , Houdini, substance designer full of bugs and running slower because is not m1 compatible

 

[godhandiscen]

I bought a Mac Pro earlier in the year, so it will be a while before I get a taste of Apple’s new processor, but happy to hear this event delivered.

 

[Pagusas]

Holy wow, if the M1 performs like the a14 it is almost hitting 5950 performance number!?!

Apple Announces The Apple Silicon M1: Ditching x86 - What to Expect, Based on A14

www.anandtech.com

 

[diffusionx]

Holy wow, if the M1 performs like the a14 it is almost hitting 5950 performance number!?!

Apple Announces The Apple Silicon M1: Ditching x86 - What to Expect, Based on A14

www.anandtech.com

FFS has Apple just destroyed x86?

If this holds up, we are talking better performance AND ridiculous power efficiency, it’s not even a generational leap but a complete upending of the computer business.

 

[dottme]

Holy wow, if the M1 performs like the a14 it is almost hitting 5950 performance number!?!

Apple Announces The Apple Silicon M1: Ditching x86 - What to Expect, Based on A14

www.anandtech.com

It should be the same core, maybe a higher frequency. But it should be equal or better in single thread.
multi thread will explose the A14.

 

[decisions]

The new Air and Mini are

Preordered two Airs and a Mini.

Pro is a real loser, certainly the benefits don’t outweigh 300e + thickness + weight + fan difference to Air

Air vs Pro

That's not really true, I mean the MacBook Pro has a fan. The Air will throttle a lot more quickly and so while we'll have to wait for reviews to really see, I definitely think it's safe to say that if you are someone who uses Logic or Findl Cut all the time you will see noticeably better performance on the Pro. And you get better battery life. The most disappointing thing about it is that it didn't receive a redesign, and looks pretty dated at this point compared to the 16-inch.

Anyways this event was awesome. If their claims really are true they made absolutely amazing gains in performance and efficiency. I mean this 13-inch Pro has double the battery life of my 2018 15-inch. That's insane. And these are their "low-end" chips. And no price increases. I would expect Apple to make considerable gains in the laptop market over the next 2-3 years.

I might get a Mac Mini since it's pretty reasonably priced and I'm at home all the time for at least a few more months. Else I think the Air is just really slick from a hardware standpoint.

 

[Rentahamster]

Holy wow, if the M1 performs like the a14 it is almost hitting 5950 performance number!?!

Apple Announces The Apple Silicon M1: Ditching x86 - What to Expect, Based on A14

www.anandtech.com

This is promising, but I think non-synthetic benchmarks will tell a more illuminating story.

If these Apple chips go toe to toe with AMD under sustained loads I will be impressed

 

[Stiflers Mom]

I am still rocking a 2009 Macbook Pro...

If the keyboards are usable again, I'd definitely be in for one of those new macbooks.

 

[RainblowDash]

Cain't wait till the desktop ARM Macs come out! Should be extremely fast and well optimized for Apple software.