This made me laugh so hard. Then I got sad.
Tomb Raider: The reboot for fans of games that aren't Tomb Raider.
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Tomb Raider |OT| Lara's Misfortune
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This made me laugh so hard. Then I got sad.
Tomb Raider: The reboot for fans of games that aren't Tomb Raider.
kunonabi
Member
you're SOL. your support of the franchise means jack and the franchise is now tailored to the dudebro audience who never cared about it to begin with and can't bothered to play anything that a takes modicum of effort or resembles anything other than a bad hollywood movie. however, if the game fails you're a horrible person and the people involved won't be able to feed their famiies.
The P of Poland
Member
This place is as salty as HaloGaf was before H4 came out.
I don't think that's a good thing.
I don't think that's a good thing.
It's not.
But Tomb Raider actually has a shot at being good.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
HaloGAF got saltier AFTER H4 came out after more people realized it was kinda ass
The series is now a mere shadow of it's former self
Alcoholikaust
Member
Does PC footage exist on the internet? Hype is slowly increasing...and I still have a few tax return mcdonalds bucks kicking around
XANDER CAGE
Member
Nope, that's pre-order DLC
Good ol' big-budget gaming
Siiiiigh. Oh well.
JetBlackPanda
Member
how do I get the scavenger code from the amazon pre-order? email?!
It hasn't matched DmC in that regards yet. When Eidos/Square CM turn into Capcom UK then we've got a start.
I really hope they release it later down the road.
sublimit
Banned
*Bro fist*
Yeah Eurogamer's review was also very bad especially in the way they used generalizations like "excellent exploration" or "satisfying routes" in order to justify their score without actually giving us information about what exactly was "excellent" and "satisfying".
Nope, that's pre-order DLC
http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tomb-Raider-Pre-Order-Bonus-Best-Buy-570x320.jpg[IMG]
Good ol' big-budget gaming[/QUOTE]
I love the look of that skin, too bad it's for preorders at Best Buy, lol.
It's alright guys. I played TR1-3 to death when they came out, and so did many of you. The original Tomb Raider is long gone.. it's been over twelve years. Things change. Gameplay changes. Embrace it. Otherwise we'll look like old men, kicking and screaming, yelling at clouds, etc.
Who pre-orders from Best Buy?
I was getting pretty excited for this... and then I watched the Machinima review. They really tore it apart. That being said, some of the footage looks very impressive. I just hope the gameplay's fun enough to back it up. The mere mention of Metroid/exploration elements is enough to tempt me...
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
No swan diving to death anymore. I tried. A lot.
Why are people surprised that the lowest scoring review of the game had a few negative things to say about it?
You can pick the lowest scoring review for just about any game and they will shit all over it, no matter what it is. That said, they still gave it a 60, which is hardly an abysmal score.
The other reviews make the same complaints.
That's not my point, though.
Just seems odd to read/watch what is literally the lowest scoring professional review of the game and then make the comment "Wow, they really tore it apart". If anything, the fringe scores on either side are the ones you should be most skeptical of.
Baconsammy
Banned
I can list of boatload of problems with Dragon's Dogma. More negatives than positives. I'd still rate the game quite high. The insistence that only the negative reviews got the scores right is saltiness at it's greatest. The only thing that will make this better is if it sells incredibly well on top of being a wonderful game.
ColonelColon
Member
So I take it this game's "platforming" is in the vein of Uncharted? That's really a shame.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I'm down with that. I play games for their plot first and gameplay second, and if the plot is off then I enjoy the game less.
But it doesn't really matter what the scores are if they all make the same complaints and those complaints bother you. Also, what the complaints are is more important than the number of complaints.
plagiarize
Banned
I've asked this in other threads, and may have missed the answer, but I'm not seeing 'plenty' of games doing what this Tomb Raider does. I can think of three that are worth anyone's time.
There's been as many games THIS GEN in the Tomb Raider series. I don't see this abundance of Uncharted clones. If we count both the Wii and 360/PS3 Forgotten Sands from this gen in the 'like Tomb Raider' bucket, there's already been more worthwhile Tomb Raider-esque games this gen than there has been Uncharted esque games.
Yes, this new game is more like Uncharted and people that preferred the old style of game over Uncharted don't like that. What I don't concur with is the notion that there is anything more than a handful of games like Uncharted. I mean, presuming we're defining that narrowly enough to rule out Tomb Raider Underworld, what out there is MORE like Uncharted than Underworld was?
And given the new things this Tomb Raider adds to the formula (because let's not pretend it's a straight Uncharted clone) even if some elements that used to exist have been made more like Uncharted, the final game isn't much more like Uncharted than before. yes, the platforming and shooting is now more like Uncharted, but the exploration, side quests, semi open world, RPG and weapon upgrade systems and what have you aren't things I remember from any Uncharted game. Whereas Underworld was a game a lot like an Uncharted game that put more of a focus on puzzles and platforming than it did combat.
Again, I see how a fan of the old style of game might not like the new game, but the notion that THIS Tomb Raider is just aping the mainstream and the previous ones were some unique special thing... is complete nonsense.
Of course I was expecting some negative stuff. It's just that the review comes off as way more negative than a passing grade, they hardly mention anything positive. With a 6/10 I wasn't expecting that kind of beatdown.
The story is.. not terrible. The mythos and backstory of the island gets better as you progress. The actual game's story gets more cringe-worthy bad as you progress.
Jawmuncher
Member
Great OT.
Good to see that it was taken seriously compared to the one DmC got even with all the backlash.
Good to see that it was taken seriously compared to the one DmC got even with all the backlash.
The lacking qualities of the gameplay in Spec Ops are vastly overstated.
i mean for me it was positively boring, plus I don't really keep track of what is usually said about it so I can't really speak on that
but I see that people concentrate a lot on it's presentation and story, and how that contributes to it getting on people's best game lists and whatnot
so, not to give game reviewers too much credit, but I'd just assume any aspect of the game that they collectively agree is lacking is considered when determining the final score (big assumption tho, plus the only review I've looked at was conan o'brien)
Especially in a tomb raider thread. I doubt you'll die on normal in TR as easily as you can in Spec Ops, and going by the combat videos I've seen the AI is dumb as shit. Whereas in Spec Ops they actually try to flank and use some basic tactics to keep you moving.
JetBlackPanda
Member
its been pre-ordered on steam for $33 US dollars. I am pretty excited. I don't expect the best game in the world but the new hair tech is worth at least $30 dollars.
lol
oh and I have played every Tomb Raider so I can't really stop can I?
lol
oh and I have played every Tomb Raider so I can't really stop can I?
Spring-Loaded
Member
Thread title could still be changed to Croft's Misfortune
there's still time
there's still time
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Yep. It is generally better than Uncharted though as a lot of times you can make your way through in multiple ways.
CadetMahoney
Member
In videogames 8 is average depending on your mileage is it not?
Agreed, they simply confirmed a lot of things I was hoping weren't going to be the case. I'm sure the game will be fun as a stand alone game, but honestly, it isn't what I want out of the next Tomb Raider. The more I read and see, the less interest I have. I loved Uncharted one and two, but still haven't managed to get hooked on 3 after trying to get into it multiple times. I'll most likely pick this one up during a Steam Christmas sale.
Also, I'm extremely disappointed that the optional tombs essentially boil down to single room physics puzzles. Ugh...
Net_Wrecker
Member
You're complaining about this? The game is TRYING to be a cinematic adventure. The onus is on the developers to justify the kind of gameplay they put in the game to move the narrative along. If those don't match up, a reviewer's complaints are 100% valid. No one told CD to put a bunch of cutscenes into the game, or make an origin story, or make the game so character focused, but since they did, the gameplay damn well better make sense in context. If a survival story turns into a standard third person shooter with an inexperienced protagonist killing hundreds of enemies with callous precision, it seems fair to criticize the gameplay for not tying into a narrative which is a MAJOR part of the presentation.
