How about being angry about getting replaced by her? Or maybe there was racism. Or maybe your love story was right. Thing is, we don't know. Let's wait up for more information on this.
Two Virginia television journalists fatally shot in on-air attack[READ OP]
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2002whitegt
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ughh, this is just too much, i still got chills from watching the video a few hours ago.
All I can do is shake my head, the cycle of arguments just repeats, and sadly probably will quiet down until the next tragedy...
Why, as a whole, are we so bad to each other.
All I can do is shake my head, the cycle of arguments just repeats, and sadly probably will quiet down until the next tragedy...
Why, as a whole, are we so bad to each other.
He probably snapped and wanted to make a statement to his former employers.
Right. Even if she interned there (which can sometimes be a semester of college) there isn't much there to tie them together. But the other thing is, given the time of her hiring, that he saw her as his replacement and that probably pissed him off.
We don't know if she actually said anything racist, or made an innocuous faux pas, said something that only he interpreted as racist, or he went through the mental gymnastics necessary to justify his actions. We also don't know what happened at the Tallahassee TV station other than what he alleged.
RustyNails
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I havent read the thread, I'm just going off CNN report. Cripes, calm down will you?
An analysis precedes a diagnosis. The results from the analysis are the diagnosis.
What he was doing and what you are doing are the same.
His conclusion is that there is likely mental illness. Yours is that there is not.
Same method. If you're saying he can't make a hunch at a diagnosis, you're saying you can't make a hunch at mental stability.
PhoenixDark
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Good luck with that.
I'd rather have a ban on straw purchases and other ways that illegal guns are pumped into inner cities underground. Not that this would happen either, of course.
Baron_Calamity
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The most effective solution is to require liability insurance for guns. That way the market place would regulate who could own guns or not. Person fired from work because of anger issues would have a really hard time affording the insurance to own a weapon.
Zabant
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Sad but true, there's even the chance that if somehow heavy reform/ban went into effect the gun nuts would rise up and more shootings would happen.
MadLaughter
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Someone at my table during my lunch break at work went "Oh here it is!" And started playing it on max volume. UGH.
Its a culture of reduced guns that reduce the frequency of using weapons to kill people imo. Its the thing to do, picking up a gun, its the mental option made. Its what we are used to.
We need gun laws, there is no question there. America has little next to none. We need SOMETHING in the works, not just speculation about how it really wouldn't do anything. Its a numbers game. This is just one instance, so It would more than likely fall in the category of that % of gun deaths that still happen with gun laws.
If the gawker narrative, angry black man killing, makes it to the main stream, I see it being some sort of hopeful condemnation of guns in this nation, fueled by race play.
ElectricBlanketFire
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CNN reported she rejected his advances? When and who said it?
RustyNails
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I agree. Till we dont see his memo we cant do anything but guess. People are acting like I'm giving out his address or something.
Kiever Sher
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It's weird because there was some terrorism expert on the news yesterday and he said the one thing that's yet to come is live streaming of a terror attack, the vid this guy shot himself is real close to that.
valkillmore
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If someone did that at my place of work I would probably report them. What the fuck is wrong with people?
Fenderputty
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I want to catch and fly and a unicorn myself.
In what alternate reality? We couldn't even get reduced clip sizes and more stringent testing for ownership.
The Second Amendment
RustyNails
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No, CNN didn't say that. That's what I think. They did mention that he was specifically targeting her.
Reading the comments on the Breibart article was... odd.
A weird amount of them are implying that if Obama had a son, he'd do that exact same thing. That's an oddly specific racist claim, but a huge amount of them have been writing some variation of that at very similar times.
See for yourself, a lot of them are going with this strange "Obama's son" narrative that seems to have come out of nowhere.
A weird amount of them are implying that if Obama had a son, he'd do that exact same thing. That's an oddly specific racist claim, but a huge amount of them have been writing some variation of that at very similar times.
See for yourself, a lot of them are going with this strange "Obama's son" narrative that seems to have come out of nowhere.
There is a difference between someone being mentally ill and someone being declared mentally incompetent by the court. I doubt anyone here thinks he will be ruled mentally incompetent.
What about it? This is 2015.
Liberty4all
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I clicked on a news article with what I didn't realize was going to be the POV video (I didn't know there WAS a pov video)
Horrible scarring shit.
Horrible scarring shit.
Technically, you don't agree since "the only thing" you could think of was that unrequited-love story.
Because there's a bunch of people who care more about the right to own a gun than people being needlessly killed by them. It's price worth paying for some
I think it's possible to ban guns and remove them from the populace. But this would have to be done gradually over time, starting with tighter restrictions, more stringent checks and psychological profiles, and maybe by making certain types of guns more difficult to be purchased.
Start by slowly but steadily limiting the flow of new guns into the existing ecosystem.
Introduce buy-back programs that let people trade in guns for cash.
And most difficulty, shape the culture of future generations of American children to associate guns with bad things. It's going to take institutional change in educating future populace as well as introducing, gradually new rules.
This could take a century or two. It might not happen in our generation but it could be more likely to happen in future generations. We just have to engineer and reshape our culture in a specific direction.
edit: I guess what I'm saying is that an out-right ban is unrealistic, but you could take measures to slowly reduce the stream of new guns to a trickle and THEN try to deal with eliminating the existing pool.
Start by slowly but steadily limiting the flow of new guns into the existing ecosystem.
Introduce buy-back programs that let people trade in guns for cash.
And most difficulty, shape the culture of future generations of American children to associate guns with bad things. It's going to take institutional change in educating future populace as well as introducing, gradually new rules.
This could take a century or two. It might not happen in our generation but it could be more likely to happen in future generations. We just have to engineer and reshape our culture in a specific direction.
edit: I guess what I'm saying is that an out-right ban is unrealistic, but you could take measures to slowly reduce the stream of new guns to a trickle and THEN try to deal with eliminating the existing pool.
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Exactly. A fully healthy person cannot carry out an act like this.
I think people get their panties in a bunch when people talk about mental illness after a heinous crime as many take it as saying it reduce culpability, or that the person shouldn't ge the full punishment of the law etc.
When most are just saying if we had better mental health support services (as well as social services in general) in America maybe we'd have fewer of these incidents as people got help before they declined to this point. As a criminologist, I think those types of factors have more to do with our high violence rates than our absurd levels of guns in society (though that plays a role too due to being more easily lethal than other methods of attacking someone).
stufte
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You asked why, that's the answer. The fact that it's 2015 doesn't matter.
Amory
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i sincerely doubt that. you would need a constitutional amendment and there would be no chance of any southern state voting in favor of it
Fenderputty
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Obama made the comment about Trayvon Martin when he was murdered.
NoblesseOblige
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Then you don't understand how central the constitution is in US law. We have to have a supreme court just to interpret it so that possible laws don't infringe upon it.
Guns for gold! Give people gold of relatively equal value to that of their gun upon exchange to local authroities.
ElectricBlanketFire
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What is this from?
I'm guessing you don't understand the basic points of our government. We have basic laws enacted by our constitution. The 2nd Amendment (being one of those laws) addresses the populations ability to own arms. Therefore a culture of owning weapons has been established for 300 some odd years. It would take a force mightier than currently exists to even get an amendment to the floor of our congress to even address the second amendment so right now it won't happen. That's the reality.
Of course they can, even more so in the heat of the moment.
LyleLanley
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Has this been linked to yet?
Were now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015 - Washington Post
Were now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015 - Washington Post
ElectricBlanketFire
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Yep. I posted this a few pages back:
General Manager of WDBJ discussing the killer:
"Angry man"
"Quickly became....gathered a reputation as a man difficult to work with."
"Looking for things to take offense to."
"Eventually after many incidents of his anger...we had to dismiss him."
"Did not take it well...had to be escorted from the building."
"None of his accusations could be corroborated in any way."
"Talked to everyone...diverse workplace...we got nothing about it."
"EEOC dismissed his claim out of hand...and that was that."
Baron_Calamity
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Because we are retards. We as a nation can see a problem, gather evidence and research the problem, see how others have handled the problem, and take what we have learned and throw it out the window.
Guns and violence are a religion in America. We have many citizens who worship guns, and while they are not a majority, they are a substantial, vocal, and powerful voting bloc backed by a massive lobby. Then you have the rest of us, who are largely conditioned by constant violence to regard it as normalcy.
America is almost like an Islamic state in that we lose our minds over a woman's exposed flesh, but watching 3 people gunned down on the morning news is business as usual.
Yes it does matter. Please give me a detailed reason of why Americans needs this firepower.
You'd have to create an amendment to repeal the second amendment. Creating a Constitutional Amendment is extremely hard. You need 2/3 of both houses and 3/4 of all state legislatures to pass one.
It's not happening.
It's not unprecedented. The 18th amendment to the Constitution was repealed.
I think it can happen, and hopefully will eventually happen.
I just might not live to see it. The America that passes a repeal will be a different, probably better, America than the one I grew up and know it as.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
So, they can fail at a fight against the US Military. I thought it was obvious.
Black Mirror
All this immediate reporting of what someone said that someone else said right after that someone was murdered is highly irresponsible sensationalism IMO. People just got murdered and we're talking about heresay of what they might have said. All this aftermath gossip reporting is usually wrong anyway.
No unfortunately, it doesn't matter. You have to first understand our constitution.
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