Ubisoft issues totally convincing response to Assassin's Creed Unity's resolution
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Easy to reply when someone's already banned.
But eh, I've done it before.
But eh, I've done it before.
MikeE21286
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ThoseDeafMutes
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Because of fremdschämen. It's awkward to watch.
SwiftDeath
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Hence the "assuming all else equal". Describing a graphical design goal for two separate SKUs of a game being "seeking parity" due to the desire to prevent "debates and stuff" does not sound like a decision based on technical limits of each individual machine. As such I think the more prudent, logical position at present is to assume Ubisoft simply chose to get both versions up to what they thought was the bare minimum acceptable level of graphical quality for "the first next-gen AC game" and Ubisoft could very well have spent the majority of time getting the XB1 version up to the bare minimum they had the PS4 version at, which would still be an unfair allocation of ubisofts resources for any consumer who owns the PS4. You are right though, time will tell as we see how each version performs and if Ubisoft left resources on the table with the PS4 SKU.
Unknown Soldier
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That's because EA keep their mouths shut about it.
Just because they're frenchmen shouldn't make any difference to this train wreak.
I call it second-hand embarrassment.
EightBitNate
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Honestly why is everyone wasting their outrage on the resolution?
They're fucking FRENCH developers who gave FRENCH people ENGLISH accents. We should be burning shit.
Priorities.
They're fucking FRENCH developers who gave FRENCH people ENGLISH accents. We should be burning shit.
Priorities.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I've had "sources" telling me about the game being in quite poor shape during relatively late stages of testing. Wouldn't shock me if they both drop frames like mad even at 30fps.
I'm with you on this one lol. I might be playing it in French with English subs if the Australian version lets me.
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thelastcrusader
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True that. I've been following this forum for a couple of years before actually requesting membership and I always recognize Bruiser and Ami when they come into a thread.
More importantly, Ami is right to be upset, Ubisoft has fucked us like never before.
iNvid02
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The previews released last week and some tweets from journalists seem to suggest the game still is in a really bad shape.
I'm on mobile right now so i can't link it but there was a french preview posted earlier in this thread that seems to suggest the build they played last week was in a really bad technical state.
IndoAssassin
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Isn't farcry 4 coming out a week after? Why haven't they announced the resolutions for that game yet?
Ingueferroque
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Azure Dream
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SwiftDeath
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Well sounds like a mess than even by Ubisoft standards. Black Flag was fine to play on either console last go around so I'd love to see what causes this new game to be so hard to run in comparison. I also wouldn't really find it too surprising if the framerates were fairly close then assuming the XB1 SDK has improved significantly from launch which it probably has as the CPUs are very comparable. I will be very curious to see what both console SKUs end up looking and running like though
They said PS4 is 1080p/30fps for far cry.
cripterion
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... that's what I'm saying though, it probably won't considering no game released so far, even stuff like Strider is not the same on both consoles.
Though I agree with alot of the outrage, I find it funny that this point is the one I shake my head at the most.
I'm waiting to weigh in once we get the response to the response on the resolution choices to end the debate of game parity towards resolutions of game features for responses.
Pontbriand said:
Pontbriand said:
SAME. FUCKING. ARTICLE. I mean, they really can't keep their lies straight about this shit anymore can they.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
PS4 version-1080p and is also getting exclusive content. PC version is the lead platform. They haven't announced the resolution for xb1, but apparently the ps4/xb1 version is equivalent to the pc version at ultra high settings. Far Cry 4 has a marketing partnership with Sony, so expect little news about the xb1 version compared to the ps4 version until very close to release.
IndoAssassin
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Seriously!
Who blows all these years on a title only for it to turn out 900p on a capable platform!
I wonder how Mark Cerny and crew feel reading all this bullshit :/
Didn't read anything about it yet.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I've said this multiple times...and it's been completely ignored multiple times, might as well wait for the DF article.
And their excuse that it wouldn't make sense to give them French accents for an English audience is ridiculous. That certainly wasn't the case for every Assassin's Creed game to this point. I'll bet you can find an example of that in Rogue too.
wat.
The Shogun
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This makes a lot of sense as it was basically the only Ubi game we couldn't go hands on with a few weeks back.
Bigmac1910
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Yeah right, except that this is the PS4 we are talking about, which is quite a bit more powerful than the Xbox One, so this is the lamest excuse I've heard in a long time. Oh well, can only vote with my wallet, no purchase for me. Was on the fence anyway, this bullshit just made my decision easier.
I misspoke.
Anyone who thinks you won't have to crack the PC version open like a 15 year old clunker to get the engine tuned and working has pattern recognition issues. No offense, one can hope, but they have a track record. It ain't good.
Mobile Suit Gooch
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I don't understand.
BruiserBear
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Interesting. I suspect this game is simply unoptimzed, and thus the resolution outcome. Should be interesting to see when people dig into the PC version.
cripterion
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Yeah that's what I thought from the beginning too but people like a good mob outrage I guess.. I find it funny that if you're not all up in arms about this whole affair you're labeled as an Xbox fanboy but whatever.
Also on the subject there is no way this footage was from the console versions
IndoAssassin
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This is what doesn't make sense to me. Since when is AC cinematic compared to Uncharted? AC is about exploring an open world. Uncharted is about a linear adventure with huge set pieces mixed in with cutscenes.
Yet Uncharted is aiming for 60fps, because the ND states they can't go back to 30.
Yet Ubisoft insists on that cinematic experience, when Uncharted is far more cinematic. There is no comparison at all.
Does Ubisoft really take me for a fool? Why can't they just say the wanted to push graphic fidelity over framerate?
What is up with this cinematic nonsense? I feel like they treat me like I'm an idiot who didn't goto school.
Hoho for breakfast
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There was a resolution issue? Huh. Wonder when they'll address the parity issue.
The Shogun
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Its certainly possible and Ive said from the beginning MS may have no part in this. It could be 100% Ubis fault and they've botched their current gen AC engine. A lot of stuff is looking that way especially considering we went hands on with titles that aren't out for 6+ months and yet Unity which is out next month had no live demo.
Who knows the answer for sure at this point but Ubi has dropped the ball on this one.
I know it's kind of off topic but considering the talk on this page of the game not being in a good technical state currently. When I was playing AC Revelations, my game glitched bad. I was doing one of those keep up with the guy deals running on the roof tops. I fell off and failed or something, I don't remember, but at any rate next thing you know the game throws me forward in the story. Like I was on chapter 3 or something, next thing you know I am getting a silver trophy for completing a chapter in the animus way later on. And of course the game auto saved so I couldn't go back. I traded the game in the next day I think.
soul creator
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Keeping quiet tends to avoid debates and stuff.
Which actually does work, to some extent...until you specifically say that phrase out loud in a pre-release interview, lol.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Wait a minute.
So first you say "we're locking the game arbitrarily to avoid debates"
Then you say "resolution is not final"
Then you say "900p 30fps just feels better than 60fps and 1080p because its more 'cinematic'"
And now "We did not do that thing we said we did, please buy our game"?
Jesus christ Ubi.
So first you say "we're locking the game arbitrarily to avoid debates"
Then you say "resolution is not final"
Then you say "900p 30fps just feels better than 60fps and 1080p because its more 'cinematic'"
And now "We did not do that thing we said we did, please buy our game"?
Jesus christ Ubi.
that shouldn't give them a pass.
i'm sure it'll be awkward in their office for a while too, but considering they've fucked up their single responsibility - knowing and communicating with their market, i'm not going to shed a tear for them.
as people have said, it shows a complete distain for consumers. the video games market is more like the car industry, rather than say that of white goods. you don't want some slick cunt trying to sell you something you know more about than they do, you want someone with a similar and genuine interest in their product.
as much as i'm not a fan of the new forza - the dan greenwalt of PR. you may not like him, but he knows his stuff and is genuinely enthusiastic.
not to be harsh, but this is exactly how it looks imo - a disinterested company using disinterested and/or uninformed PR employees to promote a game franchise designed (firstly and foremostly) to rake in cash. which is why its still the same old game this far through the franchise.
What graphic fidelity? They can't even get this thing running at full HD, and then have balls to talk about bringing a true next gen game. Who knows, it might even look bad than Black Flag. I don't have high hopes for this game.
cripterion
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Really hope it's not an AC3 situation
Please be more like Black Flag perf wise.
Never played AC3 but if it's anything like Black Flag it should be good. That game runs like a dream for me (well without the physx stuff).
Seriously download a high def video of the game from Gamersyde and tell me it doesn't look good, it looks better than Black Flag, from the character faces to their outfits, to the textures of the pavements, etc while pushing a lot more characters on screen.
900/30 is fine if they want to focus on gameplay.
But AC doesn't have good gameplay element...so what are they talking about?
They only have square/triangle combat system, no skills combination, and a range weapon.
SoM has 30 orcs on screen at the same time, with different skill animations, fire barrels/arrows/explosion, beasts jumping/stomping on you, just simply chaotic...AC series never have these in the past decade.
And with AC: U gameplay trailer, you don't see anything news. You are still sneaking around, and assassinating 2 guys casually standing at the door. When you are fighting in a large group, only 5 guys come to greet you.
So what is Ubisoft talking about anyway? Playing hide and seek with 100 NPC in the city?
Finding a seat with another 20 NPC? Punching the extra HD graphic out of the next gen beggars?
So I guess this type of gameplay justifies for 900/30?
But AC doesn't have good gameplay element...so what are they talking about?
They only have square/triangle combat system, no skills combination, and a range weapon.
SoM has 30 orcs on screen at the same time, with different skill animations, fire barrels/arrows/explosion, beasts jumping/stomping on you, just simply chaotic...AC series never have these in the past decade.
And with AC: U gameplay trailer, you don't see anything news. You are still sneaking around, and assassinating 2 guys casually standing at the door. When you are fighting in a large group, only 5 guys come to greet you.
So what is Ubisoft talking about anyway? Playing hide and seek with 100 NPC in the city?
Finding a seat with another 20 NPC? Punching the extra HD graphic out of the next gen beggars?
So I guess this type of gameplay justifies for 900/30?
Unknown Soldier
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I'll laugh if this is explained in the lore as you are experiencing the memories in the Animus through the framework of your mind, whoever "you" are now that Desmond has been replaced by a generic guy starting with Black Flag. Since you are a British individual, the people all speak the language you understand with your native accent.