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[Nocty]

The statistics I can find indicate the UK has a murder rate of 1 around per 100k population, which puts it in the bottom 3rd of the country table. Looking at the per state data in the US, the safest states are just above this. So I don't see any data to support the claim that homicide rates in the UK are astronomically higher than in the safest parts of the US.

I operate on the opposite assumption to you. I think if someone isn't immediately willing to provide the data that they are using to make their claim, it probably isn't worth debating with them. That's why I asked for the data first, rather than making a bunch of claims or arguments which would probably get ignored.

We've already established he is an idiot and he realised he isn't going to get out of the hole he's digging so bowed out.

Moving on, yes, correct. All my point was making in my first reply to the thread was that it is laughable people think the UK is some kind of hellhole to live in. It has always been, and remains, and will most certainly remain within the top handful of countries to live in the world going forward.

I am not a nationalist by any stretch, nor a globalist, but I am a well travelled lad (and as posted earlier, have lived in a lot of diverse countries) and to beat the dead horse it's very amusing to see non-uk people think the uk is bad because elon musk's algo fed them some nonsense about rapey muslims and immigrants killing white people.

So yes, lets harp on a little more shall we? Rich History and culture... the UK is a living museum of history, art etc. World-class museums, iconic landmarks in every major city with booming tourism and festivals (just avoid the music ones, they are shit).

Not to mention stunning diversity of landscapes.. The UK packs jaw-dropping variety into a relatively small island tbh. Cotswolds hills, rugged Scottish Highlands, serene Lake District waters, and dramatic Cornish cliffs... all within around 10-12 hours drive end to end of the country.
We still have plenty of global Influence and opportunity, while less so these days London remains a hub of scientific innovation, finance etc. Students from around the world still flock to the Uni's here because the reality is, education around the world still sucks in comparison (ESPECIALLY the US) English land and property is within top 1% of valuable, globally. To buy a house here is extremely expensive to the point where most are dreaming to afford it in their lifetime, it will not happen. You don't get that because the coutnry is a shithole, you get it because living here is better than living in 95% of the world unless you care deeply about the weather. There is a growing problem with knife crime and phone theft in major cities, but that is a global problem. The wealth gap is causing all manner of petty crime like that to skyrocket. People can't afford to live, they are gonna steal shit from people who can whether there are police about or not.

There are many, many other reasons... World-Class free healthcare in the NHS, even though the gammons will have you believe it's on it's last legs, outside of the busier cities the care is still leading, and when you consider the cost is 0, while going to the hospital in the ambulance in the US can bankrupt you, yeah.. once you leave the UK, most if not all of these things dissappear in the vast majority of countries. You live in a very narrow tunnel if you think otherwise.

The biggest problem with the country is London. It has deep rooted corrupt councillors, corrupt met police and corporations lobbying corrupt politicians hard. This will eventually be resolved, but at the moment we are in a very awkward scenario. We have very wealthy diehard right wingers like Rupert Murdoch spending vast amounts of money to poison the brains of the gammons (some of which appear in this thread) with propaganda about migrants stealing everything including the jerbs and their iphones etc. This has been an issue since the 80s, he owns all the shitty wrag newspapers like the daily fucking mail that make you think a rapist muslim is hiding in every bush in britain ready to steal your child, build a mosque next door to your house and force you into converting etc. It's all fucking nonsense.

 

[StereoVsn]

even if you we're not talking out of your racist white ass it would still be better then the zionist jew controlled satanic anti Christian sate that we currently live in.

Ah yes, it's the Jews. Whenever something goes wrong it's the Jews. And apparently "we" live in the anti-Christian state?

I assume you are talking about US? You know the country where half a dozen states have been mandating 10 Commandments in Schools, we still say "One Nation under God" and Supreme Court just allowed even more rights to religious charities.

Yes, it's totally Anti-Christian hell we got here.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Ah yes, it's the Jews. Whenever something goes wrong it's the Jews. And apparently "we" live in the anti-Christian state?

אױ װײ‎

Somehow we're always involved. Concord? Yep, probably were us too.

 

[chromatic9]

The statistics I can find indicate the UK has a murder rate of 1 around per 100k population, which puts it in the bottom 3rd of the country table. Looking at the per state data in the US, the safest states are just above this. So I don't see any data to support the claim that homicide rates in the UK are astronomically higher than in the safest parts of the US.

I operate on the opposite assumption to you. I think if someone isn't immediately willing to provide the data that they are using to make their claim, it probably isn't worth debating with them. That's why I asked for the data first, rather than making a bunch of claims or arguments which would probably get ignored.

This Walliwallipaloo wants to cherry pick good areas and discount the bad in the US.

One can do that for the UK, not only as a whole is the UK a safer place in the world. If we go cherry pick the nice areas of the UK which there are many and discount the rough areas of the UK and gang violence then the stats are even better still.

edited for clarity

 

[StereoVsn]

אױ װײ‎

Somehow we're always involved. Concord? Yep, probably were us too.

Yea, the Jews did Concord in! Someone call Herman Hulst, he has an excuse for it now! It was a Zionist conspiracy.

 

[StereoVsn]

This Walliwallipaloo wants to cherry pick good areas and discount the bad in the US.

One can do that for the UK, not only as a whole it's a safer place in the world. If we go cherry pick and discount the rough areas then the stats are even better still.

Unless UK decided to allow every man, woman and child to carry concealed in public, I have strong doubts UK homicide rate overall is close to US.

And if we are talking the worst, does UK have anything even close to Detroit, Baltimore, Newark or even more terrible places.

 

[VolticArchangel]

See? Even Pornhub knows what an absolute madlad Kojimbo is.

Never go full Kojimbo though.

 

[chromatic9]

Unless UK decided to allow every man, woman and child to carry concealed in public, I have strong doubts UK homicide rate overall is close to US.

And if we are talking the worst, does UK have anything even close to Detroit, Baltimore, Newark or even more terrible places.

I've not suggested UK has a homicide rate close to the US, quite the opposite.

 

[poppabk]

Like clockwork, invoked by one who has been caught peddling bullshit. Just don't do that - otherwise expect to be called out.

Dude you were the one caught using complete bullshit imagining that a murder rate was a flat figure. Guy even gave you a polite out that you just misunderstood and was willing to let it go and you doubled down calling him out.
Take a second, do some basic research.

 

[Three]

I was reading the age verification thing from X.com and they state any pic uploaded for age verification, that can be just a selfie or a copy of ID is stored for 30 days.

Also just recently an app called Tea for women only to talk shit about men had an ID verification process to make sure you was a real women, and now the app got hacked and all the IDs are being around 4chan. Some sites will definitely store your data for some time and i advise anyone to never upload your ID to any porn site or mobile app for age verification.

I don't think X.com Premium and Tea collecting data (wtf to verifing people are women) and suffering from a data breach are the same as this age verification process employed by the UK. There are Age Verification providers in the UK and they are not allowed to keep the data. It is deleted immediately and the maximum they are allowed to keep any data is a few days when under audit. They have always said "the only non-hackable database is no database at all".

 

[StereoVsn]

I don't think X.com Premium and Tea collecting data (wtf to verifing people are women) and suffering from a data breach are the same as this age verification process employed by the UK. There are Age Verification providers in the UK and they are not allowed to keep the data. It is deleted immediately and the maximum they are allowed to keep any data is a few days when under audit. They have always said "the only non-hackable database is no database at all".

These companies have to verify against something, likely a gov database. So that means government has allowed several firms to access ID records… which means more vectors of attack.

 

[StereoVsn]

I've not suggested UK has a homicide rate close to the US, quite the opposite.

Didn't mean to imply that, I was agreeing with you.

 

[GametimeUK]

Need ID to watch porn, but not to enter the county.

 

[Neff]

Everyone in UK with a good offline porn collection are the real winners.

3TB going all the way back to 2001

errrr

Welcome to NeoGAF, Keir!

 

[Bojji]

Need ID to watch porn, but not to enter the county.

 

[chromatic9]

I think some context is needed about the thread topic and UK Government.

This didn't happen quickly or by some Labour whim, this has been in the works for a decade coming from parents pressure on how to stop access for children. Parents keep asking for stronger measures each year and this is another step, it might stay, be refined or get dropped but public groups are asking for this.

UK need verification to access porn, we Italians receive free premium accounts by Porhub. We are not the same.

Italy's birth rate is one of the lowest in Europe, maybe less pornhub would be a start.

 

[kruis]

We've already established he is an idiot and he realised he isn't going to get out of the hole he's digging so bowed out.

Moving on, yes, correct. All my point was making in my first reply to the thread was that it is laughable people think the UK is some kind of hellhole to live in. It has always been, and remains, and will most certainly remain within the top handful of countries to live in the world going forward.

I am not a nationalist by any stretch, nor a globalist, but I am a well travelled lad (and as posted earlier, have lived in a lot of diverse countries) and to beat the dead horse it's very amusing to see non-uk people think the uk is bad because elon musk's algo fed them some nonsense about rapey muslims and immigrants killing white people.

So yes, lets harp on a little more shall we? Rich History and culture... the UK is a living museum of history, art etc. World-class museums, iconic landmarks in every major city with booming tourism and festivals (just avoid the music ones, they are shit).

Not to mention stunning diversity of landscapes.. The UK packs jaw-dropping variety into a relatively small island tbh. Cotswolds hills, rugged Scottish Highlands, serene Lake District waters, and dramatic Cornish cliffs... all within around 10-12 hours drive end to end of the country.
We still have plenty of global Influence and opportunity, while less so these days London remains a hub of scientific innovation, finance etc. Students from around the world still flock to the Uni's here because the reality is, education around the world still sucks in comparison (ESPECIALLY the US) English land and property is within top 1% of valuable, globally. To buy a house here is extremely expensive to the point where most are dreaming to afford it in their lifetime, it will not happen. You don't get that because the coutnry is a shithole, you get it because living here is better than living in 95% of the world unless you care deeply about the weather. There is a growing problem with knife crime and phone theft in major cities, but that is a global problem. The wealth gap is causing all manner of petty crime like that to skyrocket. People can't afford to live, they are gonna steal shit from people who can whether there are police about or not.

There are many, many other reasons... World-Class free healthcare in the NHS, even though the gammons will have you believe it's on it's last legs, outside of the busier cities the care is still leading, and when you consider the cost is 0, while going to the hospital in the ambulance in the US can bankrupt you, yeah.. once you leave the UK, most if not all of these things dissappear in the vast majority of countries. You live in a very narrow tunnel if you think otherwise.

The UK is a country where you can live quite comfortably - if you've got money. But life has been getting a lot worse for people lower on the income ladder. The poorest 20% of the population in Slovenia are now better off than the same group of people living in the UK.

Client Challenge

"Starting at the top of the ladder, Britons enjoy very high living standards by virtually any benchmark. Last year the top-earning 3 per cent of UK households each took home about £84,000 after tax, equivalent to $125,000 after adjusting for price differences between countries. This puts Britain's highest earners narrowly behind the wealthiest Germans and Norwegians and comfortably among the global elite.

So what happens when we move down the rungs? For Norway, it's a consistently rosy picture. The top 10 per cent rank second for living standards among the top deciles in all countries; the median Norwegian household ranks second among all national averages, and all the way down at the other end, Norway's poorest 5 per cent are the most prosperous bottom 5 per cent in the world. Norway is a good place to live, whether you are rich or poor.

Britain is a different story. While the top earners rank fifth, the average household ranks 12th and the poorest 5 per cent rank 15th. Far from simply losing touch with their western European peers, last year the lowest-earning bracket of British households had a standard of living that was 20 per cent weaker than their counterparts in Slovenia."

And that's just with regards to income. If you factor in living conditions, housing, energy prices, crime, health care and all those other things that are the constituents of a comfortable life and it's clear that the UK as a whole is in serious decline.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

even if you we're not talking out of your racist white ass it would still be better then the zionist controlled satanic anti Christian sate that we currently live in.

 

[Mr Moose]

The UK is a country where you can live quite comfortably - if you've got money. But life has been getting a lot worse for people lower on the income ladder. The poorest 20% of the population in Slovenia are now better off than the same group of people living in the UK.

Client Challenge

"Starting at the top of the ladder, Britons enjoy very high living standards by virtually any benchmark. Last year the top-earning 3 per cent of UK households each took home about £84,000 after tax, equivalent to $125,000 after adjusting for price differences between countries. This puts Britain's highest earners narrowly behind the wealthiest Germans and Norwegians and comfortably among the global elite.

So what happens when we move down the rungs? For Norway, it's a consistently rosy picture. The top 10 per cent rank second for living standards among the top deciles in all countries; the median Norwegian household ranks second among all national averages, and all the way down at the other end, Norway's poorest 5 per cent are the most prosperous bottom 5 per cent in the world. Norway is a good place to live, whether you are rich or poor.

Britain is a different story. While the top earners rank fifth, the average household ranks 12th and the poorest 5 per cent rank 15th. Far from simply losing touch with their western European peers, last year the lowest-earning bracket of British households had a standard of living that was 20 per cent weaker than their counterparts in Slovenia."

And that's just with regards to income. If you factor in living conditions, housing, energy prices, crime, health care and all those other things that are the constituents of a comfortable life and it's clear that the UK as a whole is in serious decline.

£2.15-2.50 for a 6 pack of Walkers crisps. That shit was £1 not that long ago.

 

[Three]

These companies have to verify against something, likely a gov database. So that means government has allowed several firms to access ID records… which means more vectors of attack.

That's not really how the verification process works, at least I don't think. It doesn't access a gov database as far as I know. It only looks at the ID and assumes it is genuine if it looks real just as a shopkeeper doesn't really check against a database as far as I know but just checks that the ID looks genuine. It is likely fairly easily fooled just as its facial recognition is with this death stranding workaround.

The only increased attack vector I can think of is probably age verification phishing. Where a site may now pretend to be verifying age and ask for credit card details or for your documents. That is a real threat. AVs require only partial IDs so people should really excercise caution if a site asks for excessive details for age verification. I personally would rather stick to the face recognition and fool it with death stranding or an AI face.

 

[yurinka]

I don't need to imagine it. I live it. To add to the dystopian vibes, the Home Office have just launched a new police unit to monitor anti migrant messages on social media.

Elite police squad to monitor anti-migrant posts on social media

Concerns for free speech mount as Home Office creates team to flag signs of potential unrest

www.telegraph.co.uk

My wife and I are looking to move to Poland. She's Polish, I speak Polish and we have an apartment there as well. The wages may be lower, but at least it doesn't resemble something from the mind of George Orwell.

As far as I know Poland is pretty anti-woke, so you'll be ok there.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Americans won't stand for this but they are going to try

EU has stated this goes into effect in 12 months btw

 

[StereoVsn]

That's not really how the verification process works, at least I don't think. It doesn't access a gov database as far as I know. It only looks at the ID and assumes it is genuine if it looks real just as a shopkeeper doesn't really check against a database as far as I know but just checks that the ID looks genuine. It is likely fairly easily fooled just as its facial recognition is with this death stranding workaround.

The only increased attack vector I can think of is probably age verification phishing. Where a site may now pretend to be verifying age and ask for credit card details or for your documents. That is a real threat. AVs require only partial IDs so people should really excercise caution if a site asks for excessive details for age verification. I personally would rather stick to the face recognition and fool it with death stranding or an AI face.

I mean if they aren't verifying IDs, it would be super easy to spoof. I would have thought they upload ID info to the 3rd party which does real time/near real time check against a Gov DB and flushes the data afterwards.

 

[Aenima]

I don't think X.com Premium and Tea collecting data (wtf to verifing people are women) and suffering from a data breach are the same as this age verification process employed by the UK. There are Age Verification providers in the UK and they are not allowed to keep the data. It is deleted immediately and the maximum they are allowed to keep any data is a few days when under audit. They have always said "the only non-hackable database is no database at all".

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/26/business/tea-data-breach-user-selfies

"The company behind the popular app Tea Dating Advice, which allows women to anonymously share information about the men they date for safety purposes, confirmed on Friday that 72,000 images — including about 13,000 user images submitted during account verification — were accessed in a data storage breach.

When creating an account on the Tea app, users are asked to submit a selfie to "verify that you are a woman." The app says photos are deleted following account approval."

This app also said they deleted the verification pics, meanwhile 4chan is having a party making fun of the looks and weight stated in they IDs. If you want to be a possible victim of identity theft, go ahead and upload your ID to phone apps and porn sites.

 

[Fess]

Apparently now it's mostly illegal to even post social media messages that criticize immigration, abortion stances, protest hard core Islam and more.

There have been cases of police arresting people. It's complete and utter insanity.

Yeah I've seen that on X. And that's actually how it is for real? Sounds absurd tbh. Like would people from the UK here on GAF get in trouble for saying something negative here on GAF? If that's how it is then it's horrible. No free speech.

 

[Icymanipulator]

UK is a joke

 

[PaintTinJr]

it's pretty funny to see so many UK sux posts.. once you leave the cities and move to the countryside it's pretty much the best quality of life in the world. I love living here. Everything I need within 20 mins drive, cows and fields and forests surround my house, and far away from London.
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Agreed and historically you can't defend any government more so if you didn't vote for them but on balance you'd still have to go some to live in a better country than the UK IMHO.

Fair play to all the good wholesome Americans donating their own money - and not some business tax perk biz op for brands - to Ryan Trahan's '50 States in 50 Days' fund raiser for St Jude's hospital that offers free cancer care, etc for sick children, but in the UK these are non-issues and the likes of Great Ormand Street Hospital are funded to the tune of billions by tax payers each year, rather than relying on some well meant but rather insignificant amount - rounding error in millions as a donation for a double digit trillion dollar economy - when the need of 50 of these hospitals (at least 1 per state and fully funded) in the US wouldn't even match the same quality of care as UK children get.

So IMO there's long term advantages and then there's short term disadvantages in the moment.

I don't like these negative changes in the UK but am not surprised lots of wealthy tax paying people that could live anywhere still end up choosing the UK.

 

[yurinka]

London is a sh1thole compared to East Asia city standards, but compared to most major city's in the US it's safe, where they have 10-30x the number of homicides.

At least in Spain they track separatedly the known cases, the ones under investigation and the ones the court sentenced as guilty.

That number of Barcelona matches with the number of known cases. If they would have chosen instead the number of sentenced, it would be way lower.

So to maybe what they are doing in this stat is to count only the sentenced ones for London and the known cases for the other cities to spread the propaganda of London being safer than it really is.

Another trick would be to count only the cities for the rest, but the region of London in case the other cities included there are safer.

 

[deriks]

Didn't know that the UK has a porn block

I remember seeing that you can't curse online, or you go to jail, which already is absurd. Now the workaround for porn is a game!?

I wonder how close they are to loose their shit

 

[StereoVsn]

Yeah I've seen that on X. And that's actually how it is for real? Sounds absurd tbh. Like would people from the UK here on GAF get in trouble for saying something negative here on GAF? If that's how it is then it's horrible. No free speech.

Well, doubt they monitor GAF in particular, but yeah, Facebook, Instagram, X, Bluesky and all that apparently they monitor. It's damn dystopian.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Need ID to watch porn, but not to enter the county.

Wonder if you need a drivers license to run over people. Nvm it's for Germany only.

 

[Minari]

3TB going all the way back to 2001

Impressive. I only have around 500 gb of JAV

 

[Three]

Americans won't stand for this but they are going to try

EU has stated this goes into effect in 12 months btw

Americans who use the net for social media like X are fucked already without this. It seems like companies like X and tiktok have been collecting ID data for years using Au10tix for verification without needing this bill to pass. Au10tix is an Israeli company which had admin credentials out in the wild for an entire year for some reason and has been accused of sharing that data with foreign intelligence too. Not sure how true that latter accusation is but I guess there is plausible deniability with the admin credentials leaked out in the wild anyway. Not like the US government needs any more help arresting and kicking people out from universities or the country based on what they say/think online.

I mean if they aren't verifying IDs, it would be super easy to spoof. I would have thought they upload ID info to the 3rd party which does real time/near real time check against a Gov DB and flushes the data afterwards.

People are using a game to spoof it already so I'd say it is already easy to spoof the age verification.

The 7 methods are listed by ofcom. 6 of them dont use a government database. There is the digital identity service providers though which I think might. if you use that method I'm not sure what happens. As far as I know the providers verify you match your shown ID with a photo or video but they can't access data on a government database unless you grant them access personally. I guess the Digital Identity Services Providers have access but not the third party (site or app) that needs verification. But who controls the Digital Identity providers? I know that they are "certified" and they deal with other things like opening bank accounts or KYC too but still they could easily be an attack vector. Not sure how they prevent database/identity theft from the certified providers themselves. Since if they have your ID now they can easily impersonate you?

This is better than sharing it with third party sites and apps directly though because it actually allows sharing even less information with them specifically. you can show partial IDs that grants third parties only access to specific things like your age or even simply a "yes" or "no" for "is this an adult" rather than your entire identity going to that third party.

 

[Three]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/26/business/tea-data-breach-user-selfies

This app also said they deleted the verification pics, meanwhile 4chan is having a party making fun of the looks and weight stated in they IDs. If you want to be a possible victim of identity theft, go ahead and upload your ID to phone apps and porn sites.

I'm not going to be uploading anything personally. Just saying that this stupid women verification process and breach was Tea's own doing and they weren't bound by the rules of the UK age verification process that's in effect. I still wonder though, surely Tea should be fined because they were keeping this data since 2024! What was their justification under GDPR (or whatever the US version of it is) that gave them the right/purpose to keep that data for so long? Surely that's non-compliance. What good is that law too in cases like this when your data is leaked out there and the company just files for bankruptcy. There should be some compensation for the victims of breaches.

 

[Bry0]

Americans won't stand for this but they are going to try

EU has stated this goes into effect in 12 months btw

I dunno man. I live in Illinois, I was recently on a trip to Florida and these websites have a block forcing you to make an account and do age verification if you connect from Florida. This is evidently already a thing in a lot of southern/midwest states for porn sites. 17 states according to the latest count.

 

[TheGrat1]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[Barakov]

can't sand the racism and Islamophobia on this site, mods don't care, will be deleting my profile, so goodbye

 

[Drew1440]

I think some context is needed about the thread topic and UK Government.

This didn't happen quickly or by some Labour whim, this has been in the works for a decade coming from parents pressure on how to stop access for children. Parents keep asking for stronger measures each year and this is another step, it might stay, be refined or get dropped but public groups are asking for this.



Italy's birth rate is one of the lowest in Europe, maybe less pornhub would be a start.

It's a smokescreen by politicians to control the online discourse. Don't forget that as soon as an MP was murdered they wasted no time using his death to push for online "hate" control. I wouldn't be surprised if they start pushing for Death Standing 2 to be banned, we have a tendency to just ban stuff and slander people as racist 'gammons' rather than tackling the issues.

 

[clarky]

Turkey has a complete internet block on porn I thought? No internal ISPs allow it at least.

Fuck knows twas a mere jest.

 

[Loomy]

imagine living in uk xD cooked country

UK is beyond saving.

Truly a nanny state.

Now the gov will be aware of the work around, poor chaps.

A country that allows child rape on mass scale, but then requires citizens to disclose their id just to watch porn.
There is something truly sick and disgusting going on, in the minds of the politicians in the UK.

isn't porn banned in some US states?

 

[Roni]

Whenever I walk the street now there's like no white people. If white people be hella evil why are all non whites wanting to get here?

If you really care about the answer, here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism

 

[Fess]

Well, doubt they monitor GAF in particular, but yeah, Facebook, Instagram, X, Bluesky and all that apparently they monitor. It's damn dystopian.

That's extremely scary tbh.

But Facebook has been trash for a long anyway. It's mostly people posting fake "look how nice my life is" posts, and retired people posting cakes and dogs or whatever. I should start using it to post about how shitty everything is instead to be unique. But then my relatives would be worried.

Instagram is impossible to use as well. I used to use it for digital art but noticed that I got silently censored, got it verified through experimentation, posts weren't showing up on tags because I draw women, too much skin color or whatever.
Someone posted two beige cookies side by side, got that censored, some AI thought it looked like boobs lol
Now AI draw better than myself so I don't care, digital art isn't worth shit anymore.

X is too political and lots of propaganda tbh, can't trust anything, but it's good for gaming news.

Never tried Bluesky.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

UK is beyond saving.

Always has been, it's why Americans fought a whole war just to get a divorce.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Apparently now it's mostly illegal to even post social media messages that criticize immigration, abortion stances, protest hard core Islam and more.

There have been cases of police arresting people. It's complete and utter insanity.

That said, US is by far #1 in homicide rates across developed world. Because we have to have guns everywhere and it's apparently our god given right by the founders to carry them.

Hell, Republicans just made silencers widely available. Because you know, everyone ran with those in the 18th century.

This is why when the US became independent from the UK the first right they made was the right to free speech (1st amendment). It's easy to see why yhe US and UK diverged so hard throughout the years.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

imagine living in uk xD cooked country

Bro you summored the whole Exodia of reactions

 

[GymWolf]

The very first stranding type of scam.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

I dunno man. I live in Illinois, I was recently on a trip to Florida and these websites have a block forcing you to make an account and do age verification if you connect from Florida. This is evidently already a thing in a lot of southern/midwest states for porn sites. 17 states according to the latest count.

This shit doesn't exist in a vacuum, bro. It's a rollout world wide.

Last month your supreme court sided with Texas's 'porn ban'. Fucking texas.

Now, the regime currently running my country are completely retarded. So they'll blunder their way through through this, and in blundering we'll start to find out precisely what their intent is.

 

[Neff]

I remember seeing that you can't curse online, or you go to jail, which already is absurd

To clarify, the police can visit you over anything someone deems offensive. Spoken word, a flag you put up, something you said online, anything. You haven't necessarily committed a crime, and it's at your local police station's discretion to decide to visit (the sensible ones tend not to bother), but the definition of 'non-crime hate incident' is incredibly broad. And it goes on record with them which they can use to assess whether it may potentially lead to an actual crime being committed. It's outrage culture on steroids.

Well, doubt they monitor GAF in particular, but yeah, Facebook, Instagram, X, Bluesky and all that apparently they monitor. It's damn dystopian.

Yeah I think we're safe here, but the big social media platforms don't feel like places where Brits can speak their mind with impunity these days. Horrible.

 

[Paasei]

Read on Tweakers (Dutch site regarding everything related to tech news) that the EU is also working on something similar.
Apparently, after I just tried to find the article, it's rolled out in a few countries already: France, Denmark, Italy, Spain and Greece.

So for people from any of those countries: Buy Death Stranding 2.

 

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Yeah I've seen that on X. And that's actually how it is for real? Sounds absurd tbh. Like would people from the UK here on GAF get in trouble for saying something negative here on GAF? If that's how it is then it's horrible. No free speech.

It's not illegal to criticise or ridicule any religion or belief. It can be illegal to direct hatred towards a particular group holding that belief.

For example, saying abortion is murder is fine. Saying people who have abortions should be killed themselves would likely cross the line.