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[Panajev2001a]

The funny thing is that inch by inch we are building in many countries a big great firewall and I would not be surprised to see a social scoring system (given how much power the payment providers already have, see other thread, and how important one's credit score is it would be surprising if it was not expanded in more areas of our lives).
Not only that a lot of people do not think we have well functioning democracies either…

Something something… but at least this is not the CCP… something something which is the backdrop of any news about anything happening in China… something something which much hate as we are moving in that direction justifying their approach.

I guess I am surprised the push back against censorship and church/politician/strong man deciding what is good and what is bad and mobs enforcing this in a quest of purity as if it was a magic ritual lasted longer than it should have expected. I fear things will have to get really really bad before people revolt against it again (hopefully the cycle is not thousands of years long but got faster).

 

[kruis]

Read on Tweakers (Dutch site regarding everything related to tech news) that the EU is also working on something similar.
Apparently, after I just tried to find the article, it's rolled out in a few countries already: France, Denmark, Italy, Spain and Greece.

The EU system isn't active yet. The countries you mentioned will do a pilot with an official age verification app next year.

 

[Paasei]

The EU system isn't active yet. The countries you mentioned will do a pilot with an official age verification app next year.

Then I have cleary misread (parts of) it. Sadly, it seems that it's coming regardless eventually.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Fuck the government, fuck Keir Starmer, fuck the Labour Party, fuck the Tory party, fuck the lot of them.

 

[Mozza]

I am from the U.K and on the whole it's a great place to live. There will be certain areas like most countries that have some issues ... but on the whole as I say a great place. That being said the assaults of free speech and now this silly attempt to once again legislate against something intended for adults, under the guise of protecting children. This was covered on the BBC with the usual panel of porn hating morons. And they managed to find the only five kids in the U.K who did not access porn to interview. I think one of the panel actually said people do not look for porn as it finds you lol....

It's the whole mystery of porn on the internet.... The media seems to suggest nobody actually watches it which is surprising when you consider how much of it there is.

 

[Windle Poons]

 

[Nicktendo86]

I am from the U.K and on the whole it's a great place to live. There will be certain areas like most countries that have some issues ... but on the whole as I say a great place. That being said the assaults of free speech and now this silly attempt to once again legislate against something intended for adults, under the guise of protecting children. This was covered on the BBC with the usual panel of porn hating morons. And they managed to find the only five kids in the U.K who did not access porn to interview. I think one of the panel actually said people do not look for porn as it finds you lol....

It's the whole mystery of porn on the internet.... The media seems to suggest nobody actually watches it which is surprising when you consider how much of it there is.

The government are less interested in protecting its citizens (fo example importing literal taliban members from Afghanistan and using a super injunction to hide it from the public) and more interested in censoring the public from complaining about it (for example new police being set up to monitor anti migrant comments online). This country is turning into an absolute shithole and getting absolutely sick of it.

 

[Loomy]

Yeah I think we're safe here, but the big social media platforms don't feel like places where Brits can speak their mind with impunity these days. Horrible.

Don't.

 

[Mozza]

The government are less interested in protecting its citizens (fo example importing literal taliban members from Afghanistan and using a super injunction to hide it from the public) and more interested in censoring the public from complaining about it (for example new police being set up to monitor anti migrant comments online). This country is turning into an absolute shithole and getting absolutely sick of it.

The country is not a shithole. But like I suggested the politics are.

 

[AgatonSax]

I hear this a lot, but i am in Montreal, and i am just not seeing this at all. This is some propaganda shit, bruh.

Siri, provide me with an example of irony…

 

[winjer]

The law prohibits any storage of ID or face in the age verification process. It's no different.

The UK government has frequently been known to break it's own laws. So good luck trusting them not to save all the id data.
But even if they don't store the id or face they can and will save the metadata about each person logins.
So they will have an historical of every persons access to everything.

I agree. There are always those breaches of both privacy law by companies and of the systems they deploy by hackers. If they follow the law though the data shouldn't be stored anywhere so any hack would have to be very targeted to that verification time. No different than say looking at/hacking that CCTV in that shop you visited.

CCTVs in stores are made to reuse the same storage or tape over and over again. They only keep it for a few days.
Besides, CCTV is not used to tag users that rent porn movies.

 

[Fess]

It's not illegal to criticise or ridicule any religion or belief. It can be illegal to direct hatred towards a particular group holding that belief.

For example, saying abortion is murder is fine. Saying people who have abortions should be killed themselves would likely cross the line.

Problem is that I'm not sure people actually mean what they say. Could be an exaggeration coming from the heat of the moment being angry about something. If authorities are monitoring people on social while not understanding online shit talk then lots of innocent people will get into trouble.

The funny thing is that inch by inch we are building in many countries a big great firewall and I would not be surprised to see a social scoring system (given how much power the payment providers already have, see other thread, and how important one's credit score is it would be surprising if it was not expanded in more areas of our lives).

That's a plot straight out of Black Mirror!

 

[Bill O'Rights]

Good morning folks,


Let's try to resist dragging partisan baggage into the thread, please. Some of the broader topics require more nuance to dissect, and some require acknowledgement of government culpability. Try to keep some emotional distance between the discussion and personal experience where applicable.

 

[Moses85]

This is so

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Amazing



Western Europe is being destroyed in real time, stand up patriots before your countries, cultures and identities are completely gone.

 

[Disco Dave]

First it was a walking simulator. Now it's a wanking simulator.

 

[I'm nobody]

What people will do for free porn

 

[winjer]

People in the UK should use Starmer's face instead, making him the biggest wanker in the land.

 

[Windle Poons]

Amazing



Western Europe is being destroyed in real time, stand up patriots before your countries, cultures and identities are completely gone.

This is nothing at all to do with the thread. Stuff like this will get it locked.

 

[I'm nobody]

People in the UK should use Starmer's face instead, making him the biggest wanker in the land.

Lol could he be a bigger wanker?

 

[winjer]

Lol could he be a bigger wanker?

 

[clarky]

 

[Neff]

M Bison for prime minister

 

[Werewolf Jones]

If you really care about the answer, here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism

Families who were here for 3+ generations yes.

Not mfers who came here on a boat six months ago. Nice try though.

 

[digimaster7]

why not just use VPN? I live in a SEA country where porn is completely banned even phub and VPN works completely fine

 

[scarlet0pimp]

FFS this forum.
All the brainwashed Americans believing the UK is a hell hole. With all that is going on in their own country at the moment a country which could quite rightly be described as 3rd world in many respects. Keep drinking the cool aid guys the 1% love you guys.

 

[digimaster7]

FFS this forum.
All the brainwashed Americans believing the UK is a hell hole. With all that is going on in their own country at the moment a country which could quite rightly be described as 3rd world in many respects. Keep drinking the cool aid guys the 1% love you guys.

ironically, thinking the US is a 3rd world country is also drinking the cool aid , you're basically doing the same as them thinking the US is a hell hole

 

[DirtInUrEye]

I hear this a lot, but i am in Montreal, and i am just not seeing this at all. This is some propaganda shit, bruh.

Bollocks, you're lying. I saw it on YouTube. Montreal is like a scene out of Schindler's List. I am in the North West of England and this thread and yourself basically just chats pure hysterical shite about what is actually happening in England; it's actually regular normal life here with some of the best QOL in the real world. They just blocked some smutty thumbnails from children's view, that's all. 'Bout time. But don't let me get in the way of your qualified youtuber journalism telling you how it really is here from thousands of miles away.

 

[Three]

The UK government has frequently been known to break it's own laws. So good luck trusting them not to save all the id data.
But even if they don't store the id or face they can and will save the metadata about each person logins.
So they will have an historical of every persons access to everything.

The UK has a very poor track record with data breaches yeah. From NHS data, to Afghan special forces.

They don't store metadata about login information either. The age verification process is double blind. The website you are accessing never knows your identity; and the AV provider does not record which sites you visit.

The process has been well thought out to protect privacy at least in theory, whether this works in practice is another matter entirely though.

CCTVs in stores are made to reuse the same storage or tape over and over again. They only keep it for a few days.
Besides, CCTV is not used to tag users that rent porn movies.

Not sure I see a difference. I have CCTV for my property. It has enough HDD space to record 8 cameras for 30days before needing to rewrite over old data. I don't even need permission to keep it forever.
Online age verification doesn't tag users either but we were talking about the threat of illegal activities with data and hacking. I go to a store and buy a porn mag some dude has my face recorded on CCTV doing so. The online version is more anonymous especially if I can fool it with Sam Bridges, Use VPN, etc.

 

[Nonehxc]

As the UK moves ever closer to being a dystopian hellhole, gamers find a creative solution to access their favourite porn sites:

UK Citizens Using Death Stranding 2 on PS5 to Bypass Porn Blocks

Thank you, Kojima

www.pushsquare.com

"Those of you living in the UK will be aware of the introduction of a set of "safety measures" which will require you to disclose your identity in order to access adult content. This obviously includes porn sites, but has also rolled out on services like Discord and Reddit.

Not every site implements the security measures in the same way, but some require you to scan your face using a smartphone camera in order to confirm you're of a certain age. It's a potentially dystopian development which raises concerns about all kinds of personal security risks.

While many of the verification companies claim photos won't be stored on their servers, it's perfectly understandable why people wouldn't want to participate in the process at all. So the obvious workaround is to use a VPN of some sort.

But creative Brits have also come up with another solution: scan Norman Reedus' face using Death Stranding 2: On the Beach's photo mode.

A lot of these security checks require you to complete a variety of different poses, like opening and closing your mouth, so the ability to select Reedus' facial expression comes in really handy here. And when you pair that with the overall quality of the character models in Kojima Productions' sequel, it all works a treat.

While we haven't personally tried it for ourselves, we've seen several people mention it on X (or Twitter), and PC Gamer wrote up a first-hand report as well.

We suppose if these safety measures can be so easily bypassed, then it's not massively different to the old "enter your age" verification forms we've all become accustomed to – it just takes a little more effort and nous than saying you were born in 1900 now.

It is pretty funny to think Reedus is about to become the most prolific gooner in the UK, though. He accessed Pornhub how many times in the last 30 minutes?!"


God bless Kojima and God bless the gamers of the UK!

So it's really...

Death IsWanking...

On The Bitch

Ok, OI!'ll see meself out

 

[winjer]

The UK has a very poor track record with data breaches yeah. From NHS data, to Afghan special forces.

They don't store metadata about login information either. The age verification process is double blind. The website you are accessing never knows your identity; and the AV provider does not record which sites you visit.

The process has been well thought out to protect privacy at least in theory, whether this works in practice is another matter entirely though.

That seems more like wishful thinking than anything else. Especially considering how intent the UK government is on controlling how the people thinks.

Not sure I see a difference. I have CCTV for my property. It has enough HDD space to record 8 cameras for 30days before needing to rewrite over old data. I don't even need permission to keep it forever.
Online age verification doesn't tag users either but we were talking about the threat of illegal activities with data and hacking.

Big difference between a private citizen having a CCTV and a government controlling what sites it's population accesses and what they can post online.

 

[clarky]

FFS this forum.
All the brainwashed Americans believing the UK is a hell hole. With all that is going on in their own country at the moment a country which could quite rightly be described as 3rd world in many respects. Keep drinking the cool aid guys the 1% love you guys.

Eh? quite a lot of the posters in this thread are from the UK mate. And I'm not sure where you are located but where I'm from the place is fucked.

why not just use VPN? I live in a SEA country where porn is completely banned even phub and VPN works completely fine

Most of the time I like to view minge from my neck of the woods not some South African bush (unless I'm feeling adventurous of course). Yes I know you can change location when on these sites but its an extra step I can do without when I fancy cracking one out.

 

[Three]

That seems more like wishful thinking than anything else. Especially considering how intent the UK government is on controlling how the people thinks.

Yeah there may be clandestine surveillance online like PRISM from the US but how are they going to press charges on peoples social media thinking posts by presenting illegally obtained evidence of porn sites they visited? Unless it's some child porn shit. In which case, good.

Big difference between a private citizen having a CCTV and a government controlling what sites it's population accesses and what they can post online.

I was merely talking about the hacking threat. If the government wanted to they could go to that shop and ask them to hand over their CCTV footage very easily. Why they would be interested in that or porn sites you visit though I don't know.

 

[DaciaJC]

It's pretty laughable people are up in arms all of a sudden about immigrants coming over here. Were a fucking island with excellent quality of living, safety from wars, and free health care / benefits. It's been that way for 60+ years and imigrants have been flocking here that entire time.

Immigration is not the problem, the shitty government is.

People that are under some illusion that the UK is some terrible hell hole to live in have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. I've lived in 7 countries by now at 38 and let me tell you even a stones throw away outside of the UIK standard of living tanks through the floor. I'm going to assume these people never left the UK before and are mad because a muslim moved in next door and the facebook algorithm told them that is bad.

I don't need Facebook telling me it's bad, I only need to read the stories of thousands of young girls who were raped by barbaric savages that your traitorous government imported into your beautiful country.

 

[nkarafo]

even if you we're not talking out of your racist white ass it would still be better then the zionist controlled satanic anti Christian sate that we currently live in.

 

[nkarafo]

Double post, sorry, posting from a phone sucks.

 

[AJUMP23]

sad that you even have to find work arounds due to over reach by the government.

 

[winjer]

Yeah there may be clandestine surveillance online like PRISM from the US but how are they going to press charges on peoples social media thinking posts by presenting illegally obtained evidence of porn sites they visited? Unless it's some child porn shit. In which case, good.

That is a strawman fallacy. I never defended anything like PRISM.
Both situations are bad for a democratic country. We should be striving for greater privacy and security. Not for state surveillance.

I was merely talking about the hacking threat. If the government wanted to they could go to that shop and ask them to hand over their CCTV footage very easily. Why they would be interested in that or porn sites you visit though I don't know.

The government has probably already hacked or confiscated CCTV footage when it was convenient for their interests.
And that is a terrible thing to do in a democracy.

 

[Three]

The fear mongering is real. What has a liason at a community center got to do with a religious state? The state laws are secular and will always be secular. It's just a community center serving its community.

That is a strawman fallacy. I never defended anything like PRISM.
Both situations are bad for a democratic country. We should be striving for greater privacy and security. Not for state surveillance.

I never said you did. I just gave an example of a known clandestine surveillance system of a government. Why did you take that personally, are you from the US?

The government has probably already hacked or confiscated CCTV footage when it was convenient for their interests.
And that is a terrible thing to do in a democracy.

Probably. I hear they have access to the video doorbells too. Though I've had police knock on my door and ask for specific footage so I guess the grunts on the ground don't have access but intelligence services can get it without asking.

 

[calico]

The direction of travel in the UK is very clear. If you have children in the UK you should already be planning for how you are going to leave.

 

[scarlet0pimp]

You can tell most people here are influenced buy these right wind propoganda guys. I bet you all want to live in Russia.
UK isn't perfect but no place is, but here you have many more freedoms that 99% of the world.
I nearly broke my arm on Saturday, so I went to the hospital, and waited for 3 hours before being seen had an x-ray got the all clear jsut a bad sprain. I didn't cost me a thing of corse I have paid for the NHS in my taxes before you crazy yanks jump on that. In the states would have cost a fortune probably my insurance since I have a half decent job but still would have to pay part of it. If I wanted to quit my job or do something else though you would potentially loose health cover.

I live in a nice area in Cheshire kids get to go to a nice school, there are alot of immigrants in the town but they all work hard and are part of the community.

Alot of right wing propoganda would have you belive the country is a hell hole just to get you to vote for their racist party. Like all the shit that keeps coming up about kier starmer protecting pedos, if you new the facts you would see that he actually changed laws to ensure the grooming gangs didn't get away with their crimes by closing legal loop holes.

Now I'm not personally happy with how kier is running the country he should be taxing the millionaires much more than people like myself and my wife and stop sucking up to Donald Trump, but but that's politics you can't always have your cake and eat it. Rather have labour in charge than the tories or reform. Both trying to take advantage of the small minded people we seem to have a lot of at the moment, but due to the brain rot that is the Internet.

 

[Madserb2023]

Just go to France and come back on a dingy and I am sure you will get a phone and access Pornhup due to distress.

 

[TintoConCasera]

First the TV license, now the fap license. At least there's VPNs but I feel sorry for them UK wankers.

 

[Neff]

The direction of travel in the UK is very clear. If you have children in the UK you should already be planning for how you are going to leave.

I don't have kids but if I did I'd probably have left by now. The education system here has been overrun for some time with excessive progressivism and anti-British sentiment.

 

[AJUMP23]

Is it only Porn, or are they censoring other content the government find objectionable.

 

[MarV0]

Eh? quite a lot of the posters in this thread are from the UK mate. And I'm not sure where you are located but where I'm from the place is fucked.

Lets not blow things out of proportion. The UK is on a downward spiral but the US is a special kind of hellhole. In fact I don't consider the States a first world country unless you're rich.

 

[clarky]

Lets not blow things out of proportion. The UK is on a downward spiral but the US is a special kind of hellhole. In fact I don't consider the States a first world country unless you're rich.

No idea about the states I don't live there. But speaking from experience, this country is fucked.

 

[Madserb2023]

You can tell most people here are influenced buy these right wind propoganda guys. I bet you all want to live in Russia.
UK isn't perfect but no place is, but here you have many more freedoms that 99% of the world.
I nearly broke my arm on Saturday, so I went to the hospital, and waited for 3 hours before being seen had an x-ray got the all clear jsut a bad sprain. I didn't cost me a thing of corse I have paid for the NHS in my taxes before you crazy yanks jump on that. In the states would have cost a fortune probably my insurance since I have a half decent job but still would have to pay part of it. If I wanted to quit my job or do something else though you would potentially loose health cover.

I live in a nice area in Cheshire kids get to go to a nice school, there are alot of immigrants in the town but they all work hard and are part of the community.

Alot of right wing propoganda would have you belive the country is a hell hole just to get you to vote for their racist party. Like all the shit that keeps coming up about kier starmer protecting pedos, if you new the facts you would see that he actually changed laws to ensure the grooming gangs didn't get away with their crimes by closing legal loop holes.

Now I'm not personally happy with how kier is running the country he should be taxing the millionaires much more than people like myself and my wife and stop sucking up to Donald Trump, but but that's politics you can't always have your cake and eat it. Rather have labour in charge than the tories or reform. Both trying to take advantage of the small minded people we seem to have a lot of at the moment, but due to the brain rot that is the Internet.

This is propaganda. If you wanted to be more convincing you shouldn't have mentioned that you live in a nice area of Cheshire. I am sure as a liberal you wouldn't listen to anecdotal evidence from an American on the lack of gun crime living in the middle of Montana. I live in a a town where Reform looks like its going to win. Drugs absolutely everywhere, a Turkish barber's was just raided for drugs and some random guy was kicked to death outside his own pub buy a gang of boys. I am sure its nice where you are. And? Most people don't live here in places like that. I wish it was all like the Cotswolds.

 

[MarV0]

No idea about the states I don't live there. But speaking from experience, this country is fucked.

Yeah I also believe that saving the UK is not possible anymore. It's not like the country will cease to exist but it'll be one that I won't want to live in.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Bollocks, you're lying. I saw it on YouTube. Montreal is like a scene out of Schindler's List. I am in the North West of England and this thread and yourself basically just chats pure hysterical shite about what is actually happening in England; it's actually regular normal life here with some of the best QOL in the real world. They just blocked some smutty thumbnails from children's view, that's all. 'Bout time. But don't let me get in the way of your qualified youtuber journalism telling you how it really is here from thousands of miles away.

If it was a shithole like whatever you've seen, i would have admitted it lmao. Not gonna defend a town, calm down.

Nothing is happening here. The very center of downtown is woke with a bunch of flags, but that's it.